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06-14-2005, 08:45 PM | #1 |
Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: May 2005 Location: Orange, CA
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| At my wits end...... I have reallly had it with my doggie and I just don't know what to do. My dog has several behavior issues and we have bought books and tryed differnt things and nothing seems to get through with her. We didn't want to have to resort to crateing her but it has come it that (after she chewed my kitchen chairs (50's dinette with tacks that she ate them) So we got a crate and it just hasnt beeen working. I mean sure she cant get into "trouble" but still she does rather disturbing things. In her crate i put down a piddle pad and then two of her little blankets and a toy or two and a small bowl of water, I come home from a errand and the water dish has been kocked upside down and the whole area is wet and there is nothing for her to drink. I went to petsMart and got one of the lickits to hang on the cage and tried that....well that leaks out and got everything wet. then tonight we leave for a bit and I put a empty bowl under the lickit to get the drippage and the lickit is empty, the bowl is knocked over...everything is wet and there is poop residue but no sign of it....im guessing she ate it. What am I to do? I dont think it is soposed to be such a ordeal........during the day she goes and plays in there no problem and that but when we are gone i dont know what the deal is. We tryed a knuckle bone that was sugested by a trainer and to give it to her when we leave and then take it back when we come home and after a week she didnt want that anymore and wouldnt touch it..... At night she gets to be in the living room and the kitchen and has no issues sleeps all night on the couch so I dont know what the deal is.... What are you soposed to put in a crate with them? am I giving her too much? I am just at the end of my rope....we took her in so she wouldnt be sent "away" but now I think I might have to find a new home her her myself.....my husband is over it and I too am pretty much over this as well. I realize she is a puppy but she just has no sence. Please if anyone can help me it would be great. Thanks so much Jenn |
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06-14-2005, 08:49 PM | #2 |
Lily Loves Maximus Donating Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Missouri
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| It really sounds like she is having seperation anxiety when you leave.
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06-14-2005, 08:54 PM | #3 |
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| Sounds aggravating..is she a rescue???Sometime they do suffer from seperation anxiety as Lily's mom sugested. |
06-14-2005, 08:54 PM | #4 |
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| It sounds like her crate is too big, it should be just large enough for her to turn around in. If you are just leaving for a short while perhaps do not put the water in the crate. Have you try a kong with peanut butter or treats inside to keep her busy. They last longer if you freeze them. How long is she in her crate, and how old is she? Oh just want to add if you put the pee pad in her crate it incourages her to go in the crate. You never want them to associate crate with potty. Hope this helps. Last edited by Breeze; 06-14-2005 at 08:58 PM. |
06-14-2005, 09:02 PM | #5 |
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| i have to agree with breeze........ young pups can not be left alone for long periods of time without relieving themselves.... the lickit bottle is a little concerning because it should not be leaking (or if it does..... minimal) i have a lickit one (but it is for rabits.... not the doggy ones)..... the pad while you are not home is not necessarily a good idea because she could eat it, and blcok her intestines......... her crate should be smaller enough room for her to turn around........ you should also watch what time you give her water and food,..... you dont want to give her water or food (i have heard about an hour or two before bed time) |
06-14-2005, 09:15 PM | #6 |
Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: May 2005 Location: Orange, CA
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| her crate is for doggie up to wennie dog size (at least that is what it said on the box) The lickit that i got was for small animals (rabits ferrets etc) but it drips really bad and i called the pet store and they said it is normal to leack like that.....I had ones for rabbits when I was a kid and never had them leak like that but i thought maybe things are just made crapppyer now days since the pet store said it was...) Is there a brand that you suggest? With summer comming up I want her to have water. I will try the no piddle pad hopefully that will help some. She is going to be one year in Sept so she isnt super young but she was originaly from a pet store so I kinda figured that she would have "issues" But it is just crazy..... If I give her a frozen treat wont she have to go poo in the cage? Should I put her in the crate some during the day even if im home? to get her used to it? Usually I am just gone for short errands but then sometimes we are gone for the day it all depends...... |
06-14-2005, 10:18 PM | #7 |
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| Oh girl, let me tell you that I hear you and I totally understand. But, chin up girl, there is a light at the end of the tunnel! I know it doesn't seem so right now, but there is, I promise! Okay, we started off crate training Sully, who is now 10 months old. We were consistent and no matter how bad it got, we stuck to it. We never left him in there for over 3 hrs (except to sleep at night) and on the days we had to leave him up to 5hrs (only random saturdays) we would put his crate by the tv and turn on Animal planet. But that's irrelevant, sortof. His crate is about 1.5 feet by 2.75 feet, approximately. It was WAY too big for him when he was a little puppy! We had to barracade off more than half of it with two big tupperwares because he was peeing and pooping in there. When we 1st started barracading it, it seemed cruel. He barely had a place to lay down. He would wine and it was soooo sad. But it started to work! He was learning to hold his business for outside only! It was great. But we had our many crises. Oh girl let me tell you how disgusting some of them were. One time, he pooped in there. And to try to get away from his poop, he knocked down one of the stacked plastic tupperwares. well it fell on top of him so he panicked and it fell into the poop so he moved away from it, which scooted the other tupperware into the poop. We had just left to go to the store and come back, but let me tell you, there was POOP EVERYWHERE. He got a bath....but we were too grossed out to touch him so we filled up the bathtub, opened his crate and kindly "dumped" him into the water. Poor little pup was scared to death of what he'd done! But we haven't had even one accident in MONTHS! We were consistent and it worked! Now, we have stopped putting him in his crate! We barracade off the kitchen and put his crate in there...b/c he likes it. Its his "bed'. Anwyay, he plays around in the whole big kitchen whenever we have to leave. He's a really good boy! I'm serious, no accidents at all anymore! If you could search back, you can read freaking-out, frustrated posts I've made on here while he was still learning to "hold it" after months and months of having him, we still had accidents! It took time! I was just about at wits end at times! But the best advice I can give to you is give her only a little bit of space...it seems cruel but really, dogs like it. They're pack animals...you can research about crate training but anyway, BE CONSISTENT and most of all, don't give up! There's light at the end of your frustrating tunnel, I promise!
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06-14-2005, 10:32 PM | #8 |
Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: May 2005 Location: Orange, CA
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| Thanks so much foor your words of hope.....Now I can go to bed with a bit of hope for tomorrow. I did go get the barracade from the garage and made the crate super small (I sat there with her and she checked it out and she can get in do a circle and lay down...does seem cruel but if that is what they like) Right now she is pretty much pad trained but I am wondering should i try to get her over the seperation issues and the crate and then work on training for outside pottying? or do them at the same time? My husband is getting on me for having her not pottying outside...... |
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06-15-2005, 04:52 AM | #10 |
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| Sounds exactly like seperation anxiety. Yorkies DO NOT like to be left alone. They are 100% people contact babies. She is associating her crate with being left alone. If you put her in the crate, then peek in the window, you will see that the only thing she wants is to be with you. Puppy proof a room that you do not use very often and allow her to be in that room, if you have to leave. Another training method is to put her in the confined space, (not the crate, at this time) and tell her you will be back. Only go outside for a minute or two. Come back in, show her how happy you are to see her, and give her a treat for being such a nice girl. Do this several times a day. After a while she will know that you will be coming back and that she will get a treat for being such a nice girl. Good Luck. Keep us posted.
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06-15-2005, 10:03 AM | #11 |
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| If it get's to the point where you think your going to have to get rid of her consult a animal behavorist first. One should be able to help. I'm not sure how old your yorkie is but that could be a factor. If your using the crate at one point during the day and not another that could be a problem, Your yorkie may not have a problem at night, but she should still be kept in the cage. Also it is best to not make coming home and leaving very dramatic or prolonged as it make seperation worse. When you come home do not make immediate eye contact with her nor should you make eye contact with her when you leave(dont look back) This helps show here that you are in control, It is also a technique used to establish dominace. You need to be a comfortable leader for the puppy to be comfortable at home. When you are ready to see the puppy and have put your stuff away kneel down calmly, Do not squeel or over exert yourself in the dogs mind you have been gone in a world he has no idea of and when you come home and suddenly act this way it gives him a perception of the outside world, that is why to is best to remain calm and positive around you dog. |
06-15-2005, 10:55 AM | #12 |
Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: May 2005 Location: Orange, CA
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| Thanks for all the help everyone....we have made her crate 1/2 the size and put a sock of my husbands in there with some of her blankets and toys....I sat down by her and she crawled on in and I shut the door and sat there then opened it etc and she seemed fine with it...she layed in there for a while and then this morring when I came out she was nuzzled up in the crate so i guess she is seeing it fore more then just when we go away.......the test will be when we go away for a bit today.....hopefully she will be confy and relax. So far it is looking good.....I hope everything will start to be on the up and up. Time will tell. And thanks again for all your help. |
06-15-2005, 11:07 AM | #13 |
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| This worked for me. Try an umblical cord while your home and she is running around. I tied a rope to her harness and then to my belt loop she went everywhere I went. That way I never loose sight of her. Its worth a try.
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