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03-14-2007, 05:37 AM | #1 |
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| crate smell issues and crate size question I have a 14 week yorkie. My husband and are both away from home for 8-9 hours a day during the week. I have been coming home 2-3 times a week during lunch to let him out. We keep a small plastic crate with bedding inside a large metal crate that is lined with pee pads. We are having issues with the smell. My husband wants to keep him in the little plastic crate because he insists that dogs will not go were they sleep. I think leaving him in the little crate for 8-9 hours is cruel because he is to young to hold it for that long. Does anyone have suggestions on what to do about the smell? Or suggestions on leaving him in a small crate for 8-9 hours? |
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03-14-2007, 05:49 AM | #2 |
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| i would think leaving him in an ex pen would be better for that amount of time. i think thats too long for a crate.
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03-14-2007, 05:57 AM | #3 |
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| My 11 week old puppies go from 10 at night until 7 in the morning in the crate with no accidents. what are the night time arrangements. Is he in the crate all night? I personally would hate to crate a dog all night, and then turn around and crate him all day, but I know people do it and they do hold it, and the dog gets used to the routine. Just make sure he has had plenty of time to eat and eliminate and play before you put him back in the crate. I would suggest 15 to 20 minutes of vigorus play or a brisk walk before you re crate him. |
03-14-2007, 06:00 AM | #4 |
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| He sleeps in our bed at night. My husband doesn't like that either, but like you said I hate the idea of leaving him in a crate all night and then putting him right back in it for 8 more hours during the day. |
03-14-2007, 06:19 AM | #5 |
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| I don't think I'd crate him all day, I'd use an x-pen as someone suggested. What type of pee pads are you using? The washable ones are very absorbent and hold smells in better than the paper ones. I also have one of those automatic deodorizers that dog.com sells and I notice it helps keep the air fresher
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03-14-2007, 07:03 AM | #6 | |
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Trying to force a dog or puppy to 'hold it' like this can cause health issues ie overstretched bladder causing incontinenance later on, bladder stones, intestinal issues for fecal elimination. Think about what your doctor will tell you if you don't go all day yourself, ie try locking yourself out of the bathroom all day and see how miserable you will feel. JMHO | |
03-16-2007, 09:13 AM | #7 |
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| crate smell issues and crate size question I have the plastic play pen from wal-mart. It works great! I put Dunks' bed and food/water on one end and his pee pee pad on the other end. But he lifts his legs to pee sometimes so he ends up peeing on the side of the play pen. The play pen is actually made for kids. You can either use it as a rectangular shape or a hexagon (octagon?) shape. Hope that helps! |
03-17-2007, 06:57 PM | #8 |
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| Pads don't belong in a crate. If you are "crate" training then he needs to be in a small crate for only as long as he can hold it (a few hours tops). If you are pad training then you need a playpen or ex-pen. Sounds like you are combining the two and that isn't going to help with either. As far as the smell - he is peeing on the pads - what did you expect? It smells. Make sure you clean everything with Simple Solution or another enzymatic cleaner. My suggestion is to hire a dog walker or a pet sitter or take him to doggie daycare, although rarely do people take my advice on that. Perhaps a retired neighbor or stay at home mom would take him out for an extra few $ a day. Sorry but it's that or deal with the smell. If you aren't going to take him out enough then please at least give him enough room so he doesn't have to sit in it all day.
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03-17-2007, 09:01 PM | #9 |
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| I think Yorkies are too high energy to crate all day and all night. It's just not healthy to keep them so inactive for so long. They need their movement. If you had a baby, you wouldn't confine it in a crib all day if it's learning to crawl or walk. That would impair the baby's development and I feel like it's the same with a baby dog, in fact, moreso. With the pee pads, they do tend to smell, and so my husband and I decided to change it daily. It's an expensive proposition if you have a pen lined with them, so you might want to get a "Small Animal Playpen" which has extra panels available to expand it's size. Then put a pee pad in one end and the crate and food at the other. My other suggestion would be to take a week or so off from work, and use it to train the puppy to use the pad. That way, you could then use the setup above which allows the puppy more movement. Coming home at intervals during the day and giving the puppy some more exercise while you work would then be optimum given the work situation. |
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03-29-2007, 07:11 PM | #11 |
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| You asked about a crate smell and crate size... For the size...My Sam's crate is for a 25lb dog (he is around 4). He has an area for his tee tee pad, bed/play, and food and water. This works great because I too, work a full time job. Eventually as he gets older and able to hold it longer, we will remove the tee tee pad but its fine for now. And as far as him holding it, he has never been forced to hold it but you know what he does. When we are out and about in the weekend, he has plenty of chances to go to the bathroom... never does. He waits till he gets home. Couldnt tell ya why but he does and I cant force him to go. For the smell... I havent had that problem. I use Arm&Hammer Pads from Target. 12.99 for 55. I also keep the Glade Fresh Water liquid plug ins current and on high. I have the automatic sprayer that you can set for different times, Mine is set at 36 minutes. So every 36 minutes a shot of fresh waterfall comes out, smells good. I have also gotten a citrus freshener and put in here before. No smells. I also change out freshener bed clothes every other day and wipe down their crate with lysol wipes. I have 3 dogs in one room. Now for MY opinion... just because people have full time jobs does not mean they cannot have an animal nor does it mean they are cruel to them for leaving them in a crate all day. My Charlie loves his crate, he is in it right now with the door open. He knows he can lay on the couch or wherever he wants but he likes his crate! Sam, my Yorkie, is 4 months old and he too stays in a crate while I work my full time job and he sleeps in his crate all nite. Now I do get up two - two 1/2 hours early every morning to make sure he has plenty of time to eat, play, and potty before going in there for the day. I make sure we play/run for no less than 15 minutes every morning. Now my Poodle usually does this for me as he and Sam try to kill each other by running thru the house (or backyard) growling at each other acting like wild men or we walk around the block - it just all depends on the weather. Once I am home we are up to at least 11 every nite -- even tho most nites they are ready for bed by 10. He gets plenty of exercise. Just because my boys are in their crate does not mean they are less loved, a need for Yorkie rescue, or mistreated. You can ask anyone that knows me and they will tell you my babies are my priority. So anyway thats my opinion....good luck and be patient.
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03-30-2007, 06:16 AM | #12 |
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| Right On Twalla Twalla, I read your reply. It's great and you are right. There's no reason why people who have full time jobs should not have puppies. I am a stay at home mom and my puppy seems as happy as my friend's who works full time. My Holly loves her crate too. It doesn't matter if it's not bedtime, she takes her toys in there and plays. Or sits there to watch TV. She also sleeps there all night. From 11-5 when my husband takes her out to potty and run around a little while he gets ready for work. Then from 6-8 she goes in there again until I wake up and take her potty and give her her breakfast. Point is, just cause they are in a crate does not mean they are being mistreated. I agree with you completely. In fact, I've read numerous times that their crate is like their own little private place and they love that. If the Yorkies are healthy and happy, no one should feel like they are better parents than others. Everyone has their own ways to deal with things. So ZOE123...As for the smell, I worry about it too. I have those Airwick Automatic freshners too. I have one in the family room and one in the bedroom. I also spray some Febreeze once in a while and well I don't even think the smell has the chance to accumulate since I change the pads daily. I also clean out the crate with a little of the Simple Solution Stain and Odor Remover and the place on the floor where I put his pad. It seems that you will do okay as soon as you find way to deal with the odor. Good luck and let us know how you fixed your problem.
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04-11-2007, 07:19 AM | #13 |
Yorkie Talker Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Lebanon
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| Why is a yorkie rescue needed? I have no intention of getting rid of my yorkie. I am trying to get opinions to find out what is best. You really think i should take him to the yourkie rescue b/c I crate him 8 hours 2-3 days a week? Once he is completely potty trained I don't think I will even need to crate him. I also worry that b/c he's a puppy if i leave him out he will get into things like power cords and hurt himself. He gets played with for two hours everyday before i got to work and then played with from 5-11 at night. We did come up with a solution He is NOT crated during the night, I come home 2-3 days a week during lunch, and we switched to a plastic crate which helps with smell. I think his life could be a lot worse. |
04-11-2007, 08:28 AM | #14 | |
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Keep doing what you are doing. Dont let anyone tell you that you are not loving your pup, I think trying to teach him is a good thing.
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04-11-2007, 09:16 AM | #15 |
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| Yesss I agree with Veronica. You do what you can with your puppy. I'm sure he knows you love him and you are right, this is just temporary until he learns to go to the restroom. Besides it's not like it's everyday. There IS NO NEED for a rescue. Just because other people have the time to be there all day and have different ideas about how to deal with tings DOES NOT mean they are right and you are wrong. I understand that most of the people know what they are talking about because they have Yorkies (or a puppy of any other breed), but puppies are not all the same. So obviously people under different circumstances will have different approaches. I think you have a good plan girl. Just keep doing what you are doing.
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