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Old 03-11-2007, 04:03 PM   #1
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Unhappy Teaching a Puppy to "Heal' or "Come"

My Ollie got hit by a car tonight. He is ok but it makes me realize how much more I have to train him to "Heal" or "Come". Any suggestions! When he got out the door tonight and got hit, I had called out to him but he ran and ran then looked what happened. Thankfully it was the neighbor who was slowing down at the time and we were lucky. Maybe not so lucky next time.
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I totally know what you mean. If I let Hannah out the door she will run and run and run and never look back. The other day she did that and if a car had been coming she probably would have been ran over. She will not listen to me, its like she is running for her life...LOL. It makes me so mad...
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Gracie did the same thing today she gets out and just runs like a wild dog lol
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My Ollie got hit by a car tonight. He is ok but it makes me realize how much more I have to train him to "Heal" or "Come". Any suggestions! When he got out the door tonight and got hit, I had called out to him but he ran and ran then looked what happened. Thankfully it was the neighbor who was slowing down at the time and we were lucky. Maybe not so lucky next time.
There are other threads on here about training. Come is probably the most valuable, yes. Glad he wasn't seriously hurt. I'd suggest keeping a leash on him even while in the house. Its easy to step on with they want to run. But more than that, you are able to give a quick snap and correct him when you give him a command that he doesn't listen to. Practice stay and come with someone else if you can. I suggested using a treat jar to shake and then give them their favorite treat when you shake it and they come. Mine hear that and come running every time! My trainer says to NEVER use the word come, unless you are ready with a treat. It should be the most rewarding command. Can you take him to a puppy class?
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Come is not hard to teach, but yorkies are not real reliable. they come if they want to come. I found it more effective to teach them sit and wait. They were more reliable at doing that even from a distance.

I make mine sit and wait for me to set their food dishes down, and they are not allowed to eat until I say OK.
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I realized early on that Pip was going to be a problem with the word "come". I taught her "stay", holding my hand in the stop position for her to see, too. which she seems to do better at. Now, instead of telling her to come to me, I hold my hand up, and say 'stay', and I go to her and get her. I use the hand signal just in case, for what ever reason there's a lot of noise, she'll see it, and won't move. It could save her life one day. Before opening the door, I make her sit and stay, then I "release" her by saying OK.

Don't get me wrong, the command of 'come' needs to be taught but maybe 'stay' might work better for some dogs.
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I am glad your little Ollie is ok...
As soon as i tell my little Guidoune it's ok to come outside with me...she bolts...and she wanders round smelling...next thing you know...she's on an adventure!
I attach a little bell to her so that i can hear where she is...

We are really on the country side here...and on a dead end road..so we don't have to worry about cars near here.

My grandmothers poochie got scared once from a person who happen to be standing in the apartement block entrence...so she took off running out the door that was half opened...she is always on leash but my grandmother takes it off just as she gets to the entrance of the appartement block...My grandmother called her but she just kept on running...
She was lost for 7 hours...
My grandma looked everywhere for her...she was so upset...but caramel arrived at the appartement before she did,
This expierence scared little caramel enough and now she fears the road and cars driving by...

Hopefully Ollie might have learnt enough of the danger not to go running back into the street.

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My profession is training dogs and so I'd say my dogs are 99.99999% consistent. I don't dare say 100%, just because that's not realistic and yes that includes the Yorkies. Many owners and other trainers just don't give these dogs enough credit or aren't go about training the dog properly. It really needs to be conveyed the level of consistency you can get from your dog, but are you willing to put yourself and your pup through that kind of stress? School is work and therefore can be stressful, period. It's not all about fun. Playtime is fun. And I'm not saying they can't enjoy training, mine do, but there was a time they didn't.

Anyway, what I would recommend is that you seek a professional trainer in your area. PetSmart and/or PetCo could teach your dog to "Come", but many of them are food reward based. You won't see the dog working for you, but rather what's in it for them. And in regards to the "Heel" command, for me it's very specific. "Heel" means to have their neck area level to your left leg and body parallel to yours, whether you change speeds or directions they're there.
It sounds to me like what you're really wanting in the situation is the "Come" command.

Again, I think you should seek someone in your area so that they can show you hands on what it is that you should be doing w/ your pup rather than trying to read it on the internet. It'll get you to your goal faster to say the least.


ps The trainer you choose really should like to train under distraction and that distraction level should get heavier and heavier as the training progresses. From day one, the average dog that comes my way encounters distractions while training from the first lesson just because there tends to be dogs in close proximity in the indoor training hall. Between toys and other things getting tossed; other dogs; other people; kids.....it's a lot, but your average dog can handle it. This includes our little Yorkies!
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I've had Eddie through five or six obedience classes, but I still don't trust him unleashed in areas where he can get in trouble. I leash him until we get to the park, and even then I occasionally have to leash him if I see another dog.

But you're right, sit, stay and come are real important to teach.
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It's a shame that you've been through that many classes and haven't achieved that trust and control yet.

Doesn't seem like classes were for you (NOT a waste, I'm certain) but it didn't get you to that level and if that's what you were looking for, you might want to try again, but w/ private lesson and it sounds like maybe a different trainer too.

By the way, your avatar is adorable.
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It's a shame that you've been through that many classes and haven't achieved that trust and control yet.

Doesn't seem like classes were for you (NOT a waste, I'm certain) but it didn't get you to that level and if that's what you were looking for, you might want to try again, but w/ private lesson and it sounds like maybe a different trainer too.

By the way, your avatar is adorable.
Don't get me wrong. He's very good. He was the star of Agility I, and he's shaping up to be the star of Agility II. But as with you saying that you're only 99.9 percent sure about your recall, I don't want to take any chance that he can run in traffic. I leash him when he's around traffic.

Thanks for the avatar props.
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Major props on the avatar. lol I love the clip were he's got his rear tucked under him and is all out in that snow! A Greyhound's got nothin' on his little butt!

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I realized early on that Pip was going to be a problem with the word "come". I taught her "stay", holding my hand in the stop position for her to see, too. which she seems to do better at. Now, instead of telling her to come to me, I hold my hand up, and say 'stay', and I go to her and get her. I use the hand signal just in case, for what ever reason there's a lot of noise, she'll see it, and won't move. It could save her life one day. Before opening the door, I make her sit and stay, then I "release" her by saying OK.

Don't get me wrong, the command of 'come' needs to be taught but maybe 'stay' might work better for some dogs.
This has been my experience also. Mine know "Come" and they will do it, if they feel like it.

Stay or wait seem to work much better.
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