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isevilla · 10-25-2006, 03:03 PM

Today my baby Sox who is now 4 months old was acting up really bad today. She was not listening to anything today and was showing some really aggressive behavior. I had to crate her as i was doing stuff around the house and she would not stop barking no matter what i did or said. she usually doesnt bark for very long or hardly at all till today. i took her out once every 15 min or so in between all the barking thinking she had to pee or something but nothing each and every time so back to the crate she went. She kept on barking so loudly and constantly that i put her and the crate into my room and put a blanket on top. she still wouldnt stop barking. i left her for about a half hour barking after repeated no, quiet, water spray bottle, and nothing. so i took her out again and no pee again so i went to put her back into the crate and upon doing so she turned her head around and growled, barked, then bit me pretty hard. she didnt break any skin but it hurt pretty bad. i told her bad girl and no and continued to shove her back into the crate. She usually goes in without any protest even if she is mad etc but this time i had to shove her in. she kept on barking for longer than an hour till she finally stopped and fell asleep.

two hours later i let her out leashed and fed her and she wanted to poop right next to the bowl. i said no and picked her up and put her in her box. she didnt want to go in the box. the box is clean as of this morning with new litter etc. the second she came out she tried to poop again. i dragged her back into the box which was only inches away from her. after doing this 4 or 5 times she finally went poo in the box.

dont know what is getting into her but this behavior is going on a little bit more frequently as the days go by.

any thoughts?

Is.

JeanieK · 10-25-2006, 03:11 PM

This is a link to the dog whisperers website. He addresses issues such as this. It all has to do with who is the pack leader in the house, and how to establish yourself as the leader.

Also everytime you took her out of the crate while she was barking just made matters worse. Once in timeout they should not be let out if the bad behavior is continuing.

http://www.dogchannel.com/experts/ce...aspx?WT.srch=1

Mya's_Mom · 10-25-2006, 03:14 PM

She may not be feeling well. Tummy ache maybe? Sometime they just want a cuddle. They are used to body warmth from litter mates and Mom. Today Mya was crying and I went through the list, walked her, fed her, gave her water, played ball with her, checked to make sure she was ok, no sticks stuck in her fur ......finally I just held her...I was on the internet and took a 15 min cuddle break. It was good for both of us. Also make sure you don't have music up too loud ......booming ....they have very good hearing and I remind myself to keep the music down when she is in the car with me. I would check your baby over.....make sure no cuts or anything then try the cuddle. Remember puppies are well........puppies

isevilla · 10-25-2006, 05:59 PM

Well here goes an update...

I GOT BIT AGAIN!!!!!

I let her run around in the kitchen for a few since she was behaving and she ended up with an apple peal in her mouth. I went to take it out and she flat out lunged at me and bit me and this time im surprised i didnt bleed it was so hard. Odd because Ive taken many many things out of her mouth including food and she would somewhat allow me to open her mouth and take it out.

So, of course i screamed as it hurted really bad and she did freak out for a second then i grabbed her told her no biting and yanked on the skin behind her neck until she let out a little squeal and then took her to her crate and left her there. She has been barking since. Ive been ignoring her totally and she hasnt stopped.

I think we definately need to get her to a class or something.

I reading up on the site that was recommended by the PP.

Thanks to everyone for their advice and suggestions

Is.

Brookef18 · 10-25-2006, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by isevilla

Well here goes an update...

I GOT BIT AGAIN!!!!!

I let her run around in the kitchen for a few since she was behaving and she ended up with an apple peal in her mouth. I went to take it out and she flat out lunged at me and bit me and this time im surprised i didnt bleed it was so hard. Odd because Ive taken many many things out of her mouth including food and she would somewhat allow me to open her mouth and take it out.

So, of course i screamed as it hurted really bad and she did freak out for a second then i grabbed her told her no biting and yanked on the skin behind her neck until she let out a little squeal and then took her to her crate and left her there. She has been barking since. Ive been ignoring her totally and she hasnt stopped.

I think we definately need to get her to a class or something.

I reading up on the site that was recommended by the PP.

Thanks to everyone for their advice and suggestions

Is.

At my puppy class our teacher told us to do time out this way... Put a leash on your puppy, and put them on the other side of door in your house(I used a bathroom door) You shut the door and hold the leash so that the puppy has to sit in the other side of the door and can't go any where... You only do this for 30 seconds MAX!!! They can't remember why they are in time out after 30 seconds... Don't show anger..just an OH TOO BAD FOR YOU and matter of fact attitude works best! When time out is over they start with a clean slate every time... no anger or anything.
Chewy is a puppy too...6 months. The biting nipping has been a long road... At times when he was on a real roll I would do the time out thing. He would get the point after about the 5th time, and not bite for a long while.
Also As tempting as it may be I would NEVER use the crate as a punishment... It should be your babies bed, his little soft safe place he LIKES. I have tethered Chewy to me when I need to get things done, I gate off the hall upstirs to make it like a huge play pen where he can see me but can't get in my way as I clean my room, or the bathroom...Give him toys and water and food... Your baby wants to be with you... it's a little baby puppy. I know the biting gets old after a while and it really hurts but the cage is not the best place for it when you want to teach it lesson.
Hope some of this helps!

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yorkieK9trainer · 10-25-2006, 07:05 PM

I'm not sure where Worth, Illinois is, but if it's anywhere close to Grayslake, Illinois come and see me at TOPS in Dog Training and I'd be happy to help you stop this. Just ask for Leslie.
847-223-2822
You can always call and speak w/ me if nothing else.

isevilla · 10-25-2006, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by yorkieK9trainer

I'm not sure where Worth, Illinois is, but if it's anywhere close to Grayslake, Illinois come and see me at TOPS in Dog Training and I'd be happy to help you stop this. Just ask for Leslie.
847-223-2822
You can always call and speak w/ me if nothing else.

Grayslake is about an hour and a half away from me. Too bad you werent closer but I just may take you up on the phone call though.

Thanks Leslie

Is.

isevilla · 10-25-2006, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Brookef18

At my puppy class our teacher told us to do time out this way... Put a leash on your puppy, and put them on the other side of door in your house(I used a bathroom door) You shut the door and hold the leash so that the puppy has to sit in the other side of the door and can't go any where... You only do this for 30 seconds MAX!!! They can't remember why they are in time out after 30 seconds... Don't show anger..just an OH TOO BAD FOR YOU and matter of fact attitude works best! When time out is over they start with a clean slate every time... no anger or anything.
Chewy is a puppy too...6 months. The biting nipping has been a long road... At times when he was on a real roll I would do the time out thing. He would get the point after about the 5th time, and not bite for a long while.
Also As tempting as it may be I would NEVER use the crate as a punishment... It should be your babies bed, his little soft safe place he LIKES. I have tethered Chewy to me when I need to get things done, I gate off the hall upstirs to make it like a huge play pen where he can see me but can't get in my way as I clean my room, or the bathroom...Give him toys and water and food... Your baby wants to be with you... it's a little baby puppy. I know the biting gets old after a while and it really hurts but the cage is not the best place for it when you want to teach it lesson.
Hope some of this helps!

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I will definately try this out as I am open to anything at this point. I do have plans to enroll her in a class and see if that helps as well.

Is.

2blkcatsmom · 10-25-2006, 08:12 PM

try to e mail ceasar millan i love him i have a secret crush on him

yorkieK9trainer · 10-27-2006, 12:48 AM

"I do have plans to enroll her in a class and see if that helps as well."

I'm sure it most likely will, where are you going for your classe(s) if you don't mind me asking?
A lot of people in your situation would waste their money going to say PetSmart or PetCo and they're not in the business of dog training to work w/ difficult dogs or specific behavior issues of this calibre. It'd mostly be about avoidance if they even attempted to.

I'm available everyday, except Fridays and Sundays at the number provided. If I'm in a lesson at the time, I'll be sure to return your message! Just remind me you met me on YT!

BamaFan121s · 10-27-2006, 05:01 AM

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Originally Posted by yorkieK9trainer

A lot of people in your situation would waste their money going to say PetSmart or PetCo and they're not in the business of dog training to work w/ difficult dogs or specific behavior issues of this calibre. It'd mostly be about avoidance if they even attempted to.

The PetSmart's where you live must really suck then. The trainer at the one near us is awesome. I've never been to her, but talk have talked with her several times. She's been training for a loooong time and has even taken some dogs to title in agility. A friend with a pretty aggressive Pit worked with her and had amazing results.
You must have had a bad experience there or something?

red98vett · 10-27-2006, 05:20 AM

Your puppy is ONLY FOUR MONTHS OLD !! You have to remember - she is a baby still - sometimes we expect them to understand our words and at that young age - it's expecting too much - My girlfriend had a beagle puppy that was biting her - older than your puppy - and the Petsmart classes she went to worked

you have a YOUNG puppy ....hopefully this is only a stage ...but I don't think making her yelp in pain is ever going to help ....it may make her more protective of the little things she 'finds'.....I don't want to sound mean or anything - but you used words like DRAGGED her to the box and I have to think your frustration is showing and she may be getting scared of you - which would make her growl or bite....puppies need postitive training - not getting yelled at or dragged around....

I only mean this to HELP - I'm not trying to sound like a jerk -

red98vett · 10-27-2006, 05:30 AM

i was to late to add these to my last post - go read these links - this is a puppy the same age as yours and it has HELPFUL information on it - http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/sho...ghlight=biting

and these too - http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/sho...ghlight=biting
http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/sho...ghlight=biting

isevilla · 10-27-2006, 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by red98vett

I don't want to sound mean or anything - but you used words like DRAGGED her to the box and I have to think your frustration is showing and she may be getting scared of you - -

What i mean by having to drag her is that she will come out of the box and I have to get her back into it by usually pulling on the leash and directing her back into it. I have to this quite often with her as she pulls on the lease to get out of the box. So, the "dragging" is actually pulling of the lease for redirection.

Sorry if I made it sound so harse but it wasnt intended to sound like that.

Is.

red98vett · 10-27-2006, 06:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by isevilla

What i mean by having to drag her is that she will come out of the box and I have to get her back into it by usually pulling on the leash and directing her back into it. I have to this quite often with her as she pulls on the lease to get out of the box. So, the "dragging" is actually pulling of the lease for redirection.

Sorry if I made it sound so harse but it wasnt intended to sound like that.

Is.

Gotcha !!

When I read your post I felt the frustration and I think our dogs feel it too when we get that way - I just wanted to emphasise that you do have a young puppy - I remember mine at that age - the teeth HURT... but try to relax and enjoy her - they grow up fast.

the other thing people have said about the training is just use consistency - like if you feed her - put her right on her 'place' to go - you just have to keep doing the same things and praise them ALOT - they get it eventually...

IF you want to take something away from her and you think she'll bite - try to read the links I posted earlier - some of the same problems were talked about there -

one more thing - you aren't leaving her leash on while she's in the crate right ?? they can strangle on anything hanging or around their necks -

10-25-2006, 03:03 PM	#1
isevilla Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Joliet, IL Posts: 52	Extremely aggressive behavior and bit me Today my baby Sox who is now 4 months old was acting up really bad today. She was not listening to anything today and was showing some really aggressive behavior. I had to crate her as i was doing stuff around the house and she would not stop barking no matter what i did or said. she usually doesnt bark for very long or hardly at all till today. i took her out once every 15 min or so in between all the barking thinking she had to pee or something but nothing each and every time so back to the crate she went. She kept on barking so loudly and constantly that i put her and the crate into my room and put a blanket on top. she still wouldnt stop barking. i left her for about a half hour barking after repeated no, quiet, water spray bottle, and nothing. so i took her out again and no pee again so i went to put her back into the crate and upon doing so she turned her head around and growled, barked, then bit me pretty hard. she didnt break any skin but it hurt pretty bad. i told her bad girl and no and continued to shove her back into the crate. She usually goes in without any protest even if she is mad etc but this time i had to shove her in. she kept on barking for longer than an hour till she finally stopped and fell asleep. two hours later i let her out leashed and fed her and she wanted to poop right next to the bowl. i said no and picked her up and put her in her box. she didnt want to go in the box. the box is clean as of this morning with new litter etc. the second she came out she tried to poop again. i dragged her back into the box which was only inches away from her. after doing this 4 or 5 times she finally went poo in the box. dont know what is getting into her but this behavior is going on a little bit more frequently as the days go by. any thoughts? Is.

10-25-2006, 03:14 PM	#3
Mya's_Mom YT 500 Club Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Brampton, Ontario, Canada Posts: 689	She may not be feeling well. Tummy ache maybe? Sometime they just want a cuddle. They are used to body warmth from litter mates and Mom. Today Mya was crying and I went through the list, walked her, fed her, gave her water, played ball with her, checked to make sure she was ok, no sticks stuck in her fur ......finally I just held her...I was on the internet and took a 15 min cuddle break. It was good for both of us. Also make sure you don't have music up too loud ......booming ....they have very good hearing and I remind myself to keep the music down when she is in the car with me. I would check your baby over.....make sure no cuts or anything then try the cuddle. Remember puppies are well........puppies __________________ Regards,Cyn Driving the grammatically correct insane, one posting at a time

10-25-2006, 05:59 PM	#4
isevilla Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Joliet, IL Posts: 52	Got bit again and really hard!!!! Well here goes an update... I GOT BIT AGAIN!!!!! I let her run around in the kitchen for a few since she was behaving and she ended up with an apple peal in her mouth. I went to take it out and she flat out lunged at me and bit me and this time im surprised i didnt bleed it was so hard. Odd because Ive taken many many things out of her mouth including food and she would somewhat allow me to open her mouth and take it out. So, of course i screamed as it hurted really bad and she did freak out for a second then i grabbed her told her no biting and yanked on the skin behind her neck until she let out a little squeal and then took her to her crate and left her there. She has been barking since. Ive been ignoring her totally and she hasnt stopped. I think we definately need to get her to a class or something. I reading up on the site that was recommended by the PP. Thanks to everyone for their advice and suggestions Is.

10-25-2006, 07:05 PM	#6
yorkieK9trainer YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: North eastern Illinois Suburbs Posts: 1,669	Please don't waste you time/money- I'm not sure where Worth, Illinois is, but if it's anywhere close to Grayslake, Illinois come and see me at TOPS in Dog Training and I'd be happy to help you stop this. Just ask for Leslie. 847-223-2822 You can always call and speak w/ me if nothing else. __________________ "Big things come in small packages" http://www.myspace.com/yorkiek9trainer

10-27-2006, 12:48 AM	#10
yorkieK9trainer YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: North eastern Illinois Suburbs Posts: 1,669	"I do have plans to enroll her in a class and see if that helps as well." I'm sure it most likely will, where are you going for your classe(s) if you don't mind me asking? A lot of people in your situation would waste their money going to say PetSmart or PetCo and they're not in the business of dog training to work w/ difficult dogs or specific behavior issues of this calibre. It'd mostly be about avoidance if they even attempted to. I'm available everyday, except Fridays and Sundays at the number provided. If I'm in a lesson at the time, I'll be sure to return your message! Just remind me you met me on YT! __________________ "Big things come in small packages" http://www.myspace.com/yorkiek9trainer

10-25-2006, 03:11 PM	#2
JeanieK Donating YT 12K Club Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Council Bluffs Iowa Posts: 12,552	This is a link to the dog whisperers website. He addresses issues such as this. It all has to do with who is the pack leader in the house, and how to establish yourself as the leader. Also everytime you took her out of the crate while she was barking just made matters worse. Once in timeout they should not be let out if the bad behavior is continuing. http://www.dogchannel.com/experts/ce...aspx?WT.srch=1

10-25-2006, 08:12 PM	#9
2blkcatsmom Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: elizabeth city,NC Posts: 190	try to e mail ceasar millan i love him i have a secret crush on him

10-27-2006, 05:20 AM	#12
red98vett Yorkie Kisses are the Best! Donating Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Houston TX Posts: 33,590 Blog Entries: 1	Your puppy is ONLY FOUR MONTHS OLD !! You have to remember - she is a baby still - sometimes we expect them to understand our words and at that young age - it's expecting too much - My girlfriend had a beagle puppy that was biting her - older than your puppy - and the Petsmart classes she went to worked you have a YOUNG puppy ....hopefully this is only a stage ...but I don't think making her yelp in pain is ever going to help ....it may make her more protective of the little things she 'finds'.....I don't want to sound mean or anything - but you used words like DRAGGED her to the box and I have to think your frustration is showing and she may be getting scared of you - which would make her growl or bite....puppies need postitive training - not getting yelled at or dragged around.... I only mean this to HELP - I'm not trying to sound like a jerk - __________________ Villette, Chanel & Cheri www.DesignsByVillette.net Custom Address Labels and Note Cards using YOUR Photos! Just Click HERE! Last edited by red98vett; 10-27-2006 at 05:22 AM.

10-27-2006, 05:30 AM	#13
red98vett Yorkie Kisses are the Best! Donating Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Houston TX Posts: 33,590 Blog Entries: 1	i was to late to add these to my last post - go read these links - this is a puppy the same age as yours and it has HELPFUL information on it - http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/sho...ghlight=biting and these too - http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/sho...ghlight=biting http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/sho...ghlight=biting __________________ Villette, Chanel & Cheri www.DesignsByVillette.net Custom Address Labels and Note Cards using YOUR Photos! Just Click HERE!