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Old 07-11-2006, 06:32 AM   #1
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Omg 9 m/o not housetrained, hopeless?

We've had Lily since Christmas and decided to pad train since it was very cold here. She did ok at first, but would never poop on the pad and soon began confusing scatter rugs for the pads and eventually went wherever she wanted. I've decided to train her outside since. She sleeps with us all night and holds it when we get up I take her out and she usually pees (this is the last few days), but does not poop after eating. It's like she holds it and doesn't want to go outside the few times she's gone I think she just couldn't hold it anymore. When we leave I put her in the crate and she does fine. When we are home I've been keeping her on a leash next to me because if she's loose she'll go wherever. She doesn't bark to go outside it's just that I happen to take her out so she goes. When, if ever will she tell me she needs to go out? I feel bad leaving her on the leash, but I have no intentions of letting her go wherever. Any suggestions/ ideas? I'm concerned that because she's so old these bad habits are cemented and she'll never get it.
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I think she's still young enough you can make this work. You are definitely off to a good start. I would put her on a feeding schedule. Once you do that you will start to notice a potty pattern, then you'll know about what time she needs to go. My Logan goes poop and pee first thing in the morning & at 6pm & he just pees at noon. Always take her out the same door so she knows what door to go to to let you know she needs to go out. If you see her start to potty in the house clap your hands to startle her out of going pick her up & place her outside & then praise like crazy when she goes outside. Treats are a big help too.
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We've had Lily since Christmas and decided to pad train since it was very cold here. She did ok at first, but would never poop on the pad and soon began confusing scatter rugs for the pads and eventually went wherever she wanted. I've decided to train her outside since. She sleeps with us all night and holds it when we get up I take her out and she usually pees (this is the last few days), but does not poop after eating. It's like she holds it and doesn't want to go outside the few times she's gone I think she just couldn't hold it anymore. When we leave I put her in the crate and she does fine. When we are home I've been keeping her on a leash next to me because if she's loose she'll go wherever. She doesn't bark to go outside it's just that I happen to take her out so she goes. When, if ever will she tell me she needs to go out? I feel bad leaving her on the leash, but I have no intentions of letting her go wherever. Any suggestions/ ideas? I'm concerned that because she's so old these bad habits are cemented and she'll never get it.
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It's never too late, some just take a long time. A year or better. Keep doing what you are doing and she will eventually get the idea.

Watch her for signs that she is about to go, sniffing circling, squattring, then say potty, or whatever, take her out. As she is going, say pee or poop or potty so she begins to associate the word with the action, then reward her.

When she is not on the leash keep her in a crate or a very small area, like an ex-pen, with just her bed and food and a pee pad.

In the morning, mine get up and go out immediately and they pee. They come in and I give them soft food for breakfast, which they gobble down, and immediately afterwards they go back out to poop. Eating stimulates the need to poop.

Just because a dog is trained in one room of the house does not mean they will be trained in all rooms. Each room might require a separate lesson.

What I did, if they had a favorite place on the floor that they wanted to relieve themselves on, is to set their bed or toybox over that spot for a while. That worked very well.

Some times feeding them at regular times, rather then free feeding, helps you to know when they might need to go.

Keep trying, don't give up on her, it just takes time and patience. They really do want to please you. And she might even be telling you that she needs to go out, but you aren't picking up on her signal.

They work as hard at trying to communicate with us, as we do with them.
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You might want to introduce bells. She is old enough to know ahead of time (most of the time) that she needs to go. Hang jingle bells on the doorknob or next to the door, and teach her to ring them to go outside. She will be happy to communicate with you! If you need further instructions, let me know. There are a ton of threads on YT about doggie doorbells.
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Max was IMPOSSIBLE to house train. He held it fine when he was in his crate but not when he was outside his crate. He would, however, scratch the wall or door to let me know if he needed to go out but he would do it every 30-45 minutes It was exhausting but Abbie was housebroken very quickly because I would take her out when I took Max out. I don't even feel like I trained Abbie to go outside. She just seemed to have made the connection to go outside because I kept taking her out.

My suggestion would be to try to take her out very frequently. When she goes outside throw a BIG party for her--make a big fuss so she knows that she did something good. Use treats or verbal praise--just be patient and be consistent taking her out and praising her. She'll eventually make the connection. Some are house broken earlier than others. It took Max almost 2 1/2 years but he's been doing very well lately. I've left them in the living room unsupervised for up to 6 hours recently and there have not been any accidents.
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You might want to introduce bells. She is old enough to know ahead of time (most of the time) that she needs to go. Hang jingle bells on the doorknob or next to the door, and teach her to ring them to go outside. She will be happy to communicate with you! If you need further instructions, let me know. There are a ton of threads on YT about doggie doorbells.
I dunno about introducing ANOTHER method of potty training. One reason you might be having a little bit of trouble is bc you started out using potty pads and now you are doing outside. I would not recommend introducing ANOTHER new method, like bells. My vet told me to pick a method and stick to it or these little guys will get VERY confused. But, it is not too late for her to learn to go potty outside. It is just going to take a little longer bc she was first trained on the pad. I think what are you doing right now sounds fantastic. At the rate you're going, she will definately get the hang of it and be potty trained soon. It is DEFINATELY not too late for her to learn. She is still very young.

I agree with what someone said earlier, when you see her going potty inside, clap your hands really loudly and say NO really loudly and sternly. I know a lot of people disagree with this, but what I had to do with my stubborn yorkie is when I saw him going potty inside, not only did I clap really loudly and say NO, but I also popped him on the butt with an empty paper towel roll. It doesn't hurt, it just scares them, kinda like the same effect as clapping. Then, after you clap and/or pop her with the empty paper towel roll take her outside where hopefully she'll finish up...then praise praise. I would not recommend the paper towel roll for puppies bc they really are too young and really just don't know any better. But at 9 months, she is definately a candidate for the paper towel roll bc she should know right from wrong at this point. I only use the paper towel roll on my 9 month old...not my 9 week old.

The good thing about what you're doing is that you have her on a leash so you can watch her at all times. I would carry the paper towel roll around with you stuck in your pocket or pants or something. Keep doing what you are doing by keeping her on the leash when you are home. The reason it takes longer for some is because when their owners are home, they let the yorkie have full run of the house (don't keep them on a leash)...then the yorkie goes in another room and potties and the owner doesn't see it until hours later. By then it is too late to punish them.

So, sounds like you are doing EVERYTHING right...just keep being SO consistent. Don't give up! You are doing a great job. If you keep taking her out of the same door, hopefully she'll learn to tell you when she has to go outside. However, my sister's yorkie has never let her know when she has to go outside. So, she had to be put on a feeding schedule and my sister takes her outside at certain times during the day. It worked for her and she is completely potty trained. She had to use the empty paper towel roll method, too. It worked great for her and me. Good luck. Keep doing what you are doing...you are doing a GREAT job.
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A while back, I was feeling like an expert on the subject. I even posted a couple of times the steps that we were taking. We went through about two weeks without a single "accident" - unless she managed to hide one from us. I thought we had it made. To the best of my recollection, she was about 12 weeks old at the time.

Now it's a short time later (she's 4 months old now) and for the past two or three weeks, there have a great number of accidents. Some even seem like absolute defiance. I realize that she is still very young to be expecting perfection, and I don't. But sometimes she is absolutely impossible to understand. She'll be outside with my wife for 10-20 minutes and refuse to go. Then she'll come in the house and pee on the floor almost immediately. This morning was particularly incomprehensible. I took her out and she peed very quickly - but I know her schedule well enough to know that she should be pooping, so I gave her more time. She kept going to the door to go back inside, and I kept setting her back on the grass. After a while, she started barking at me every time I set her on the grass and tried to get around me to get back to the door. She was certainly acting as if she didn't need to go and wanted me to know it. After repeating that at least a dozen times, she finally just calmly walked off to the corner of her potty area, pooped and trotted back for her treat and lots of praise.

She will often go to the door as if she wants to go out, but the door isn't visible to us from the places in the house where we usually are. I'm thinking of getting a bell (either hanging on a ribbon by the door or one of the wireless doorbells available for dogs) and seeing if we can get her trained to use it to tell she needs to go.

I'm sorry that I've taken on space on your thread and not come up with an answer for you. Look at the threads in YT, though, and you'll see there are a LOT of them about housetraining. Obviously, it is something of a problem with a lot of little dogs.
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Hang in there, these little furbabies can be stubborn!! I too started with puppy pads because of cold weather. Jaxon is 9 1/2 months now and was doing fantastic with paper training and then all of a sudden a couple of weeks ago he was having accidents all the time. I went back to confining him during the day (I work from home) - he hated it but I know it had to be done. I started figuring out when he pooped and tried to take him outside around those times. Now I've got him pooping outside twice a day along with a few pees, plus he's hitting the pads 100% of the time for pees when inside.

He seriously protested being confined - he would crash his food/water dish if we left. He has never really asked to go outside - I tried the bells but he just doesn't seem interested in them. Try to keep a fairly consistent schedule and I'm sure your baby will figure it out in time.

I've heard of other Yorkie owners still having trouble with much older dogs. You're not alone here. Just be patient and in time, it will all come together.
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You might want to introduce bells. She is old enough to know ahead of time (most of the time) that she needs to go. Hang jingle bells on the doorknob or next to the door, and teach her to ring them to go outside. She will be happy to communicate with you! If you need further instructions, let me know. There are a ton of threads on YT about doggie doorbells.
Thanks. Maybe that way she'll tell me, how do you go about introducing this?
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I dunno about introducing ANOTHER method of potty training. One reason you might be having a little bit of trouble is bc you started out using potty pads and now you are doing outside. I would not recommend introducing ANOTHER new method, like bells. My vet told me to pick a method and stick to it or these little guys will get VERY confused. But, it is not too late for her to learn to go potty outside. It is just going to take a little longer bc she was first trained on the pad. I think what are you doing right now sounds fantastic. At the rate you're going, she will definately get the hang of it and be potty trained soon. It is DEFINATELY not too late for her to learn. She is still very young.

I agree with what someone said earlier, when you see her going potty inside, clap your hands really loudly and say NO really loudly and sternly. I know a lot of people disagree with this, but what I had to do with my stubborn yorkie is when I saw him going potty inside, not only did I clap really loudly and say NO, but I also popped him on the butt with an empty paper towel roll. It doesn't hurt, it just scares them, kinda like the same effect as clapping. Then, after you clap and/or pop her with the empty paper towel roll take her outside where hopefully she'll finish up...then praise praise. I would not recommend the paper towel roll for puppies bc they really are too young and really just don't know any better. But at 9 months, she is definately a candidate for the paper towel roll bc she should know right from wrong at this point. I only use the paper towel roll on my 9 month old...not my 9 week old.

The good thing about what you're doing is that you have her on a leash so you can watch her at all times. I would carry the paper towel roll around with you stuck in your pocket or pants or something. Keep doing what you are doing by keeping her on the leash when you are home. The reason it takes longer for some is because when their owners are home, they let the yorkie have full run of the house (don't keep them on a leash)...then the yorkie goes in another room and potties and the owner doesn't see it until hours later. By then it is too late to punish them.

So, sounds like you are doing EVERYTHING right...just keep being SO consistent. Don't give up! You are doing a great job. If you keep taking her out of the same door, hopefully she'll learn to tell you when she has to go outside. However, my sister's yorkie has never let her know when she has to go outside. So, she had to be put on a feeding schedule and my sister takes her outside at certain times during the day. It worked for her and she is completely potty trained. She had to use the empty paper towel roll method, too. It worked great for her and me. Good luck. Keep doing what you are doing...you are doing a GREAT job.
Thank you so much for your encouragement!!! It feels good to think I can actually accomplish this if I keep it up. I was really starting to get nervous. I have caught Lily pooping in the house and brought her outside to finish and she won't. She's held it for 1 1/2 days until she found a way to sneak off in the house somewhere, hence the leash. I've been free feeding her and I guess it would be easier to establish a feeding schedule, any suggestions?
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Check out www.poochiebells.com - you can order the bells and they give you info on using them.
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Check out www.poochiebells.com - you can order the bells and they give you info on using them.
Thanks, I checked out the website, but am afraid that won't work for me. The door that I take her out to go potty is through the family room and that is the room my 2 and 4 yr olds play in and I know that would be their new toy and totally confuse Lily.
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Thanks, I checked out the website, but am afraid that won't work for me. The door that I take her out to go potty is through the family room and that is the room my 2 and 4 yr olds play in and I know that would be their new toy and totally confuse Lily.
I agree. I think she'll get the hang of it. You are doing EVERYTHING right! Just keep doing what you are doing, and one day it will just click for her! Don't worry.
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