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Old 06-15-2006, 10:27 AM   #1
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The breeder said Angel might get pouty on the 3rd or 4th day at her new home w/ me. I picked her up last Sat. Well, I'm not sure what the breeder meant by that exactly, but Angel is whining and barking pretty much non-stop. She won't listen when I say the usual things like "No, shhh, etc.," and when I ignore her, she continues to do it. It doesn't matter if I'm in the same room w/ her or in another room. She's in a pen w/ her bed, food and water bowls, pee pad and toys. She wants to get out of the pen. Should I let her cry it out no matter how long it takes? Should I not look at her at all or acknowledge her? She usually only quiets down when someone holds her. I don't know what to do!

She was quiet for a moment and went to lie down on her bed, but then my mom came in the room and she's starting up again.

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Old 06-15-2006, 10:47 AM   #2
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I read the post about buzzing and poking your dog w/o touching him/her, but that doesn't seem to work.
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Old 06-18-2006, 12:10 PM   #3
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Hi there

I truly sympathise with you. We brought home our 8 week old pup on Friday and are experiencing the same. When she is with us she is fine, cuddles up and sleeps/plays etc. When we place her in her confined area for eating, sleeping, toileting she just won't settle down on her own unless you sit with her for about 20 mins cuddling her up with her toy. You turn to creep out the room and if she spots you you've had it - she's off again. We have tried: coins in a can, shouting QUIET, pointing finger bzzzz noise (worked once but only for a minute or two), being in the room but ignoring her, water spray. When she does settle she lasts about 2 hours in her area then the slightest noise and she's off again. There's no way you can enter the kitchen when shes dozing it's too risky. Anyone - can you help save our eardrums.
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A few weeks ago I was going through the exact same thing you guys are going through now. This is the advice I was given..."IGNORE HER...and Let her whine"!!! It broke my heart to just listen to her whine for what seemed like hours at a time, but it truly worked. Now Beauty is sleeping "Through the Night". I put her down for bed at about 11:00p.m. and she doesn't wake up until about 6:45a.m. and she is only 10 weeks old. I learned that the key was "consistency"! If you have played with her, fed her and she has gone potty, then you know that she is just whining to get out and that is a No No! Especially if you are crate training. Good luck with training your puppies!!!

Oh and another thing is you have to be patient!!!! And remember that she is still a baby who is in a new environment away from her mother and litter mates. I was careful to keep that tidbit in mind when she would have an episode.
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A few weeks ago I was going through the exact same thing you guys are going through now. This is the advice I was given..."IGNORE HER...and Let her whine"!!! It broke my heart to just listen to her whine for what seemed like hours at a time, but it truly worked. Now Beauty is sleeping "Through the Night". I put her down for bed at about 11:00p.m. and she doesn't wake up until about 6:45a.m. and she is only 10 weeks old. I learned that the key was "consistency"! If you have played with her, fed her and she has gone potty, then you know that she is just whining to get out and that is a No No! Especially if you are crate training. Good luck with training your puppies!!!

Oh and another thing is you have to be patient!!!! And remember that she is still a baby who is in a new environment away from her mother and litter mates. I was careful to keep that tidbit in mind when she would have an episode.
We will try and ride thru it - i think we can ignore her but not sure if neighbours can! We do understand her anxiety she's been taken from her mates and mum and loves being with us, when we leave her she feels like she's been abandoned. Did you crate train ? Does she go through the night in her crate without a toilet break ?
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Yes I "am" crate training. She has just now gotten to the point where she doesn't wake me up to go potty in the middle of the night. Thank the Lord! But yes she goes through the night without a toilet break and she hasn't made a mistake yet. See if you can talk to your neighbors into just bearing with you as you train her because I promise you It Works and it doesn't take very long for her to understand that you are not going to run and get her everytime she whines and eventually she will stop. Oh yeah, have you tried putting a few stuffed animals in her crate. From what I have learned on YT that helps alot and also put her crate where she can see you at night, like on your nightstand or dresser. I hope you can get past this point with her because I know exactly how you feel. Sometimes I would be in tears because she would cry for 30 minutes to an hour at a time and I so wanted to get her out of the crate but I just had to think of the reward I would reap in the end and now WE are getting a wonderful nights' rest. Thanks to YT.
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Im not gonna be much help with this one because I am just a sap and when I brought mine home and they did not want to sleep in their pen....I took them out and let them sleep with me....they are very happy and satisfied..I figured we all needed the sleep and that was the ONLY way we were going to get it....it has worked for us...good luck though hun.
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Your help and advice is second to none, you can read as many books as you like but its best coming from those that have gone through what you are!

I'll keep you posted on her progress.....
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Glad I could help. Hang in there!
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Thanks for the advice. I'll try to ignore her, which will be hard. I've been very tired as she has been keeping my family and me up. I want to fall asleep during the day. When I go into the room to yell at her, she will continue and then back up and/or go to her bed. When I start to leave, she'll start up again. She also barks after she poos, so it's hard to tell whether she's just acting up or because she pooed. I'll have to check in on her to make sure it's not poo. She has giardia so I want to clean it up right away and wash her bum w/ shampoo so she doesn't get reinfected by possibly eating it. As far as I can tell, she hasn't eaten it.
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Thanks for the advice. I'll try to ignore her, which will be hard. I've been very tired as she has been keeping my family and me up. I want to fall asleep during the day. When I go into the room to yell at her, she will continue and then back up and/or go to her bed. When I start to leave, she'll start up again. She also barks after she poos, so it's hard to tell whether she's just acting up or because she pooed. I'll have to check in on her to make sure it's not poo. She has giardia so I want to clean it up right away and wash her bum w/ shampoo so she doesn't get reinfected by possibly eating it. As far as I can tell, she hasn't eaten it.
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We played with her in the afternoon for about half an hour to an hour, and we played with her again in the evening for about an hour yesterday, hoping it would tire her out. Unfortunately, it didn't seem to work. She seems to sleep during the day and isn't as bad with the whining and barking then but is "wired" at night.
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Thanks for the advice. I'll try to ignore her, which will be hard. I've been very tired as she has been keeping my family and me up. I want to fall asleep during the day. When I go into the room to yell at her, she will continue and then back up and/or go to her bed. When I start to leave, she'll start up again. She also barks after she poos, so it's hard to tell whether she's just acting up or because she pooed. I'll have to check in on her to make sure it's not poo. She has giardia so I want to clean it up right away and wash her bum w/ shampoo so she doesn't get reinfected by possibly eating it. As far as I can tell, she hasn't eaten it.
I would suggest ear plugs for everyone. Also, I think yelling would harm the process, instead of helping. She is afraid to be alone already, and yelling would make her afraid to be with you too. I think. I know your frustration and sleeplessness, and its just terrible. I have decided never to have kids because of Mia. I spent 3 grumpy days due to sleepless nights and I just had to let Mia sleep on the bed so she would just shut up.
We have the same problem, plus paper thin walls, and sensitive neighbors. So, we just spend all our time with Mia. But, then again, we can spend all of our time with her right now. She doesn't bark unless she needs to-- like getting on&off the couch. I am assuming that once she is comfortable in her environment she will be better about not barking when alone. Hopefully in a month or so? I don't know though.
I wish you a lot of patience and luck.
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I would suggest ear plugs for everyone. Also, I think yelling would harm the process, instead of helping. She is afraid to be alone already, and yelling would make her afraid to be with you too. I think. I know your frustration and sleeplessness, and its just terrible. I have decided never to have kids because of Mia. I spent 3 grumpy days due to sleepless nights and I just had to let Mia sleep on the bed so she would just shut up.
We have the same problem, plus paper thin walls, and sensitive neighbors. So, we just spend all our time with Mia. But, then again, we can spend all of our time with her right now. She doesn't bark unless she needs to-- like getting on&off the couch. I am assuming that once she is comfortable in her environment she will be better about not barking when alone. Hopefully in a month or so? I don't know though.
I wish you a lot of patience and luck.
The breeder said to say the phrases she uses for her dogs in a mean voice. I'm more soft spoken so I've had to work on it. I just say, "Angel no, that'll do, quiet, go to bed...etc." Thanks for the support. I hope it gets better soon.
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When I brought my new little pup home (8 weeks old) -- I had a week off from work and pretty much held her and carried her around with me -- except when he was sleeping....which, of course was most of the time. Whenever he was sleeping - I put him in his little bed that I bought for him.

Often, even at that young age, when he woke up - he'd come looking for me - and, of course, I was delighted to see him - and would pick him up and play with him. And, as young as he was, he seemed to like to run away from me and play with my other dog or run around on his own for a while.

So - I really had no crying or whinning. I don't think he really ever felt that he was being penned up or kept from going wherever he wanted most of the time. And - he learned quickly to love sleeping in his bed most of the day away (it was his favorite place) ....but he did sleep with me at night.

I used a belly band from the get go whenever he had run of the house. When I went back to work the 2nd week - he was confined to the kitchen with his bed, food and water, and a potty pad. My neighbors visited him daily for the first couple weeks - and said they never found him whinning or crying -- he was almost always sleeping...and then wanted to play his heart out with them.

These little dogs are all so different. Mine is submissive, but very friendly, and is very laid back. He hardly ever barks and is about as good as a little dog can be ---

As far as potty training - summer is here - and if I get him outside often, he almost never pees in the house..... I do dread winter coming again....I don't like to go out then, but guess I'm going to have to - right?

Good luck!

PS: I did put my pup in a playpen once - and oh my gosh!!!! He certainly did have a pair of lungs. Amazing, isn't it? This is when I put a bellyband on him and let him go..and since then, he has been the happiest little guy in the world - no trouble at all.

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