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Old 03-20-2006, 10:29 PM   #1
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Has anyone used a remote trainer on their yorkie before? I know a lot of you are going to say "that's mean, theres other ways of correcting bad behavior." but I know that these collars are perfectly fine and they are humane. I was just wondering if anyone used them on their yorkies before.
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Old 03-21-2006, 05:24 AM   #2
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Just curious - why do you know they are humane and fine?
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I would never use that on a yorkshire terrier. Our neighbors have one of those anti-barking collars for their dog. When he barks, it gives him a shock and he yelps. Oh yeah it makes him think about not barking but I cannot imagine how that shock feels. That dog is about 40lbs and he yelps loud. I think there are better ways of training a 6lb yorkie. But then that's just my opinion. My Max is only 16 weeks but he learns pretty quickly as long as I stay on top of things.
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I have looked at those collars and you can only use them on dogs that are 8lbs or more. Same thing with the citronella collar.
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That dog is about 40lbs and he yelps loud
I think they have the power up too high. The dog shouldn't yelp at all, it should just stop barking.... I worked in a pet store for a number of years and sold countless remote trainers and bark collars. I myself wondered how it felt and tried one of the remote trainers on my arm on more than on occassion and with several different manufacturers. On the lower settings it's no worse than a static shock you'd get from touching another person... I acutally think getting shocked going in/out of my car hurts worse... but on the higher settings, watch out! I'd NEVER go that high on a dog.

I've used one while hunting with my parent's beagle. She was well trained enough she could come with us, but couldn't be fully trusted to not run off after a deer or something (which is NOT what Beagles are used to hunt!!) The remote collar was the only thing that she would ALWAYS respond to. In the case of field dogs like this, I'd say they're okay to use, but for general training usage around the house, I'd skip it. I wouldn't put the thing on any dog less than 25 lbs and you have to be sure the power is set correctly. Our beagle never yelped, never shook, never had any reaction at all (other than stopping dead in her tracks and coming back us like we'd told her to!)... but then we knew how to use it properly.

What kind of training would you plan on doing with the shock collar?? They can't be left on the dog 24/7 and really shouldn't be used just for around the house.... I left Pixie's leash on in the house for the first few weeks we had her. That way if she got into something and tried to run off, I could quick step on the leash so I could get ahold of her. Once she learned "drop it" "leave it" and the all important "NO", I took the leash off. There's easier, better (and cheaper - those collars are expensive!) ways to train a Yorkie to do or not do something around the house. Please explore all the options before you get a shock collar right away!
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i also would like to know why you say they are humane? My husband belongs to hunting clubs and etc. Shock collars are used on some of the dogs ( by other guys, not my husband) to break them from running deer. I cannot imagine anyone even thinking abiut using it on any dog much less a poor little yorkie. There are better ways.
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Just to clarify shamrockx72's post.......she was asking if anyone has used this device on a yorkie before. I don't think she needs to justify her reasoning why or why not she beliefs this is humane and safe nor did she ask for any of your opinions on safety. JMHO. This world would be one boring place if we all had the exact same believes and opinions.
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What about the gadgets (not attached to the pups) that emit a high, piercing whistle every time the dog barks. Has anyone tried that one???
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Just to clarify shamrockx72's post.......she was asking if anyone has used this device on a yorkie before. I don't think she needs to justify her reasoning why or why not she beliefs this is humane and safe nor did she ask for any of your opinions on safety. JMHO. This world would be one boring place if we all had the exact same believes and opinions.
Courtney - this topic has come up before (search bar - shock collars) and I really would like to know if someone knows if this is a safe and humane treatment. I think it is a fair question. Gosh, I realize that it has been a little rocky the last few days but I think using a shock collars is a little different then, what car seat should I buy. I really am not trying to start problems but if someone really knows the answer than I would like to hear it.
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I dont think they are safe for smaller dogs because in the Foster and Smith catalog it says for dogs 8 lbs and over. I have a ten lb dog and still wouldnt want to chance it with a dog thats on the smaller scale of acceptable use.
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Courtney - this topic has come up before (search bar - shock collars) and I really would like to know if someone knows if this is a safe and humane treatment. I think it is a fair question. Gosh, I realize that it has been a little rocky the last few days but I think using a shock collars is a little different then, what car seat should I buy. I really am not trying to start problems but if someone really knows the answer than I would like to hear it.
Cindy (since we are on a first name basis) All I was trying to say was that this post was meant (from my observation) to ask if anyone has used them on a Yorkie before, not if they were humane, safe etc. If that is the case, and you really want to know, if it were me I would post a seperate thread. I just wanted to point out, before this thread got out of hand like I know it can from previous posts that she wasn't looking to justify her reasoning as to why they were safe but if someone had used them.
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Cindy (since we are on a first name basis) All I was trying to say was that this post was meant (from my observation) to ask if anyone has used them on a Yorkie before, not if they were humane, safe etc. If that is the case, and you really want to know, if it were me I would post a seperate thread. I just wanted to point out, before this thread got out of hand like I know it can from previous posts that she wasn't looking to justify her reasoning as to why they were safe but if someone had used them.
Sorry Baileys Momma if I offended you by using your first name . If threads are only about a yes or no answer then none of us would learn or we would get the note about posting on threads with little response. In this case I asked the poster the question because she seemed very confident that they are safe and humane. I did not post my opinion but wanted to know (and I think I asked the question nicely) on why she believes the way she does. This is a forum where people are allowed to state their opinions - sometimes more than we should I agree, but for the most part this is how we learn. Some issues will be controversial no matter what we do and sometimes these issues could be avoided if people used the search bar on YT if they know their topic could upset people. I also know sometimes people will be thinking one way about a topic and with a discussion on YT they have changed their minds. I really would hope everyone has an open mind to learn more through these threads.
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Well, I expected an uproar on this question...and boy was I right. I guess a lot of ya'll haven't seen the new collar by Innotek which is specially made for toy/lap dogs 4-10lbs. I know a lot of people who have used them on their dogs...big and small, and have had AMAZING results. I don't know about ya'll but my little girl is as stubborn as it gets. She doesn't listen, isn't afraid of a rolled up newspaper, and could care less. I'm giving this collar a try..and I'll let ya know if it works. I've only found it online at target and basspro...haven't seen it in petsmart or petco. But I can't wait for it to come! I want my yorkie acting like a nice girl!
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I have had them around my arm and ankle on the highest setting. I wouldn't put anything harmful on my baby.
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Has anyone used a remote trainer on their yorkie before?
No, and I won't.

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I want my yorkie acting like a nice girl!
Good luck with that. I'm afraid what you'll end up with is a neurotic little girl rather than a nice girl. But you've made up your mind. Just be sure to check under the collar regularly. I once read of a user who found a huge abcess where one of the prongs was - required surgery and antibiotics to treat.
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Just to clarify shamrockx72's post.......she was asking if anyone has used this device on a yorkie before. I don't think she needs to justify her reasoning ....
I had to chuckle at your post, Baileys_Momma. You were quick to criticize others for questioning how humane these collars are and for not sticking to Shamrock's question. But, you never answered the question yourself! And just FYI, if you don't like people using your first name, you could take it out of your signature.
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