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04-01-2005, 11:07 AM | #1 |
Charmed by Sophie & Daisy Donating Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: North Alabama
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| Using the word 'No' How do you guys feel about using the word 'no' to correct your dog? Some folks are for it, some are against it. I don't want to always be saying 'no', but it works well with some puppies. If you do use the word 'no', in what situation and how often. If not, what is your trick? |
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04-01-2005, 11:15 AM | #2 |
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| I use "no" in a low firm voice, and Tia has caught on to it very quickly. If she is doing something unacceptable (chewing on my furniture is a big one, but also carrying around one of my daughters' toys, or a kleenex) I use "no" then sometimes "drop it" depending, and she quits immediately. I then praise her because she did what I asked. I think dogs are smart and can learn a number of words. Tia is 4 months old and knows "no" - "sit" - "drop it" - "go get it" - "ball" - and "kisses" So I'm a fan of word commands, although we start clicker training soon, and I'm sure I'll be a fan of that as well. I just need to learn how to do it properly.
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04-01-2005, 11:19 AM | #3 |
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04-01-2005, 12:07 PM | #4 | |
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but Jennifermcb, i've never known anyone against using the word "no", why would someone be against using "no"? what was their reason?
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04-01-2005, 12:53 PM | #5 | |
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Yeah, I think Frankie's middle name should be no, too! He doesn't seem to listen, tho... | |
04-01-2005, 01:41 PM | #6 |
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| Stewie knows: No (in a stern voice) Get in there (meaning go into whatever room I am pointing into) Make potty Treat Come Get your Odie or Odie? (his toy) He definitely knows "no" the best though.
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04-01-2005, 01:56 PM | #7 |
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| The book _Dog Training for Dummies_ insists that no shouldn't be used while training. I'd never heard that before, and most of my friends with Yorkies have used the word 'no' very effectively. I just wanted ya'lls input. THanks! |
04-01-2005, 01:57 PM | #8 |
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| What's the reasoning why it shouldn't be used?
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04-01-2005, 02:12 PM | #9 |
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| To paraphrase the book..."No" is nebulous, negative and overused and does not give the dog any specific instruction or directive. Ok, that wasn't paraphrased, that was a direct quote I don't know enough about training to agree or disagree with him. I'm sure in a few weeks I'll be an expert |
04-01-2005, 02:47 PM | #10 |
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| I do a lot of training with my dogs and I don't use "No" a lot when I train. I use the word "wrong". Because "No" can be overused and it doesn't give the dog any specific instruction. I'll try to explain it. "No" is used to correct a NEGATIVE behavior (No = BAD DOG). For example, you would say "No" when your dog pees/poops in the house, when your dog is barking at someone when you don't want them too, tries to bites someone, and other things like that. But when you are training your dog and you tell your dog to “sit” and he lies down then “No” would be inappropriate because your dog didn’t do anything bad or is trying to be bad. He just made a wrong choice. Lot of the time the dog will make the wrong choice because he doesn’t understand what you want. He hasn't figure it out yet. So is he a BAD DOG just because because he hasn't figure out the meaning of the command? I hope you could kind of see the difference. |
04-01-2005, 03:01 PM | #11 |
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| i see the difference from the examples that you guys gave . . . so just use "no" for the important things and don't OVERUSE it. thanks for clearing that up for me. i was confused.
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04-01-2005, 03:02 PM | #12 |
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| Good points, Yorkieagility. |
04-01-2005, 03:08 PM | #13 |
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| Hmm, interesting! I've learned something today - by reading your replies. Wow, gotta love smart dogs. My neighbor's chow puppy, on the other hand, is not so bright. He chased Sully up the stairs and on to our back porch the other day....and then jumped off. Yeah, 9 feet down. We thought he broke something and they rushed him to the vet, but the dog was fine! We now call him the "short bus pup." LOL!!! RE: commands - my parents' neighbor has an old lab that has been taught all SORTS of tricks...in spanish. The family is 100% American and doesn't even speak much spanish but the owner said he just did it to piss off anyone trying to tell his dog what to do. What a nut?!!!
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04-01-2005, 03:38 PM | #14 |
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| I read recently that you shouldn't use the dogs name and the word no together. Like you shouldn't say "No Spot" or Spot, NO!! It is for the same reason, No is negative and you don't wan them to associate their name with something negative, only positive. In other word, you only wnat to use their name when it is a postive thing like "Good Boy Spot!" That made sense to me. |
04-01-2005, 03:43 PM | #15 |
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| I have no problem saying "No" to Otis, but I try to say "GOOD BOY" more than I say "no." For instance, on walks, if he starts tugging on his leash, I'll say "Heel" instead of "no." And whenever he makes eye contact with me, I'll say "GOOD BOY" so he knows he's getting praised when he makes an effort to know where I am. |
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