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Old 01-10-2006, 08:07 AM   #1
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Question Any suggestions?

We have Cash penned in a playpen at night and at naptime... I will let him nap on the couch when I'm nursing my daughter and let him play after he goes potty for a little while... I don't have him penned to a certain area, he can go in the living room or kitchen all other doors are closed...
Question is:
When I put him in his pen, he has toys, a basket w/a blanket to sleep in, puppy pad, water and food... So it's basically his "safe house"... Anytime I put him in there, he wants right back out to be held... I can't hold him 24/7 because of my daughter, and he cannot sleep with us beds already full LOL... So I want to teach him that it's okay that he's in there, he's safe, and all that.. I've read a great article suggested from someone on here, and stuff on the net, and stuff already on threads on YT...
I understand that you should (if i'm getting this right)... put pup in whatever you are putting him in... say a command such as "quiet time" walk away... if he does that w/o whining, give a treat and walk away.... ok i've done that... 5 minutes later he's still whining.. i tell him quiet, he gets more anxious, so I say quiet and walk away and let him do his whining...
so... should everytime I put him in his pen... to say go clean the house, tend to my daughter, go grocery shopping, and at NIGHTtime, give him a kongo filled with peanut butter or what not??????? and then when I come home, say good boy with quiet time... and then tend to his needs???????
That's where I'm confused I guess... he's whining at night and it's waking all of us up.. I don't want neighbors mad, he has water.. we take him potty, he still whines and he will not as I said sleep with us...
any suggestions will be greatly appreciated!!!
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Old 01-10-2006, 08:18 AM   #2
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He is still very long and unsure of what is going on. We did the same thing with Sailor and she was the same way at times, we found that if you give her any attention, if just to say "be quiet" , she would get worse. We would totally ignore her when she started whining and only praise her when she was quiet. I think a Kong toy would be a good idea, it will keep him occupied some and get him more used to staying in there. It will take some time for him to totally stop whining but it sounds like you are doing everything else right for him!!
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Well...I had this problem with Apple and it came down to 3 nights of her crying for 8hrs and me not getting up at all. I felt bad because I thought maybe she had to go potty or something but getting up and taking her to potty was giving her attention that she wanted. So I put some pee pads down and let her cry it out. It was a rough 3 nights let me tell you. But now I can put her in her crate at night and no whining. Also I give her a kong filled with peanut butter every time she goes in there. I don't know if that is bad for her but she seems to be doing just fine and she loves it. Plus it is the only thing that worked. Now days I say ready to go night-night and she jumps in her crate and waits for me to put the stuffed kong in there. Good Luck!
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OH NO, HE MISSES ME!!!
WANT ME TO COME GET HIM?? (only joking)
he misses his family. do you have a stuffed animal you could put in with him?
Try wearing him out before bed time. we always played a lot of fetch before going down for the night.
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Sure lol!! It'd be another long drive..
He has a stuffed animal, 6 toys as well in there... I put peanut butter biscuits in the kongo..NOTHING works.. it was awful lastnight!!!!
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It really will get better. He just needs some adjustment time. I think they all go through it. He is wanting attention and don't like being alone. I think that is the worse part of getting a new puppy. (the nights). I will give you a call on my way to work. I resisted calling yesterday. Bob made me wait. I kept saying I hope he is doing ok. Poor little guy. This is the reason I would not make a good breeder. I worry too much. It will get better tho. I promise.
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I unfortunately have the same problem except the only difference is that my Reagan is not a pup. She is 1 1/2. She has not liked her crate since day one. She does tolerate it during the day when we are at work. I finally figured out to give her a kong to keep her busy until I am out the door for work in the morning. She has gotten used to that routine. She will never enter her crate unless we put her in it. She just absolutely hates it. As for at night she just whines and whines when she is in it. We have put her in bed with us since day one and unfortuntely at night she jumps off and pottys. I have laid down potty pads. I have tried the doggie litter. She still goes on the floor. I have tried to go back to crate her at night but the whining kills me. She is potty trained for the rest of the house it is just at night which is killing our carpet! I hate to crate her b/c she is crated all day. I feel she is spending most of her time in the crate. I feel for you b/c the whining is the worst. I wish I could help!
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that stinks... he is actually doing a lot better w/that! when i put him in the crate i tell him quiet time and give him a treat, and walk out... that's basically for his nap time, bed and when i can't supervise him, he also gets his food and water in there... he did get barky today... i think it was cuz his pen is in our room and he couldn't see us.... i'm reading a training book... i'll let u know what it says about crating and see if it might help u a little...
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Hi to all. Boy am I glad I found you. I felt like I was the only one experiencing the night time whining and barking. I hate it. I feel so bad but I know he just wants to be with me. He will bark and whine all night if you let him. I only thing I can do to quite him is lay beside his crate with him until he falls asleep, then I sneak off to bed. He usually sleeps until about 4 or 5 am and then I get up to let him out. Problem is, once he is up, he's up and wants to play. I am ok with getting up early with him, but the barking and whining at night is bad and I don't know what is the right thing to do.
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Hi to all. Boy am I glad I found you. I felt like I was the only one experiencing the night time whining and barking. I hate it. I feel so bad but I know he just wants to be with me. He will bark and whine all night if you let him. I only thing I can do to quite him is lay beside his crate with him until he falls asleep, then I sneak off to bed. He usually sleeps until about 4 or 5 am and then I get up to let him out. Problem is, once he is up, he's up and wants to play. I am ok with getting up early with him, but the barking and whining at night is bad and I don't know what is the right thing to do.
HIs has subsided... but.. question.. where do you have his crate? Is it in the same room as yours? If not, is it possible? Our little guy just wanted to hear us and see us... maybe your little one will like that too??? ALso, try putting something in his crate with him, a good chew toy, something that smells like you maybe? HOw old is yours?
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The first two nights I had Pixies Crate on my night stand, she slept 8 hours both nights... the third night she cried! She wanted to be downstairs in her xpen with her other crate and her food and her water and her kong... She has really bonded with her "part of the House" Her X-pen, save haven, has become her own special place... she plays and when she is sleepy she walks into her crate and passes out! its so cute to watch!

It took 3 days of the most intense barking to break her in that xpen.... She wanted to be out and underfoot! But we let it go and did not respond... she figured it out quickly... She will still try a few barks to try and sucker us into letting her out... but everyone in the house knows that she does not come out unless she is being good and is NOT barking.

The kong is a good pacifier, it takes care of the fisrt few minutes you "leave" and in time the pup will learn to entertain its self... Just think about how long it takes most children to be self entertaining.... without TV, nintendo, toys, and other stimulations.... our children wine too! Its tough to teach them that they must make do by themselves... but they get it if you push it.
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I no longer used a cage/crate. I actually stopped using one the second week we got Zoe. My room is small enough to keep him confined and not have too much freedom. I think you should try putting in his crate a worn t - shirt with your scent on it. Your smell comforts them. I heard about putting a clock in their blankets do that they can hear a heart beat but I don't believe in that. A shirt should work.
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Baxter cried the first two nights that we had him in his crate. The third night I put him in his crate next to my bed so he could see me. No more crying after that. He sleeps from the time we go to bed till we get up. I thought it was better to have him in his crate next to me than in bed. Hope this helps.
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Hi all, I'm new to this forum. Spencer is 11 months old and I'm having a tough time with him. I have allowed him to sleep in my bed at night -- and all was fine until last night when he learned to jump off of the bed.... He then goes straight to the laundry basket and chews on my socks! If I put him back on the bed and tell him "shhh.. quiet, it's night-night time"... He jumps back off of the bed and continues playing.

I ended up putting him in his pen (which has water, toys, a bed and his litter box... he whined for a while and then fell asleep. I feel guilty leaving him there overnight as he is in there ALL DAY while I'm at work...

I just ordered another pen to add on to the existing one to give him more space to play while I'm at work.

Any ideas on bed time and where I should leave him at night? I'm thinking my bed is no longer a good place for him (sadly).

Should I put him in my room and in a pen? (actually, I have carpet on my bedroom floor and wouldn't want any "accidents"...

Any suggestions would be GREAT!

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I can't begin to tell you the problem I had with this. It was awful for the first month. Everynight crying in the crate. So I took him out and let him sleep in a bed on the floor next to mine. I then suffered almost 3 months with his barking and crying because I felt bad putting him back in. Iwould get up at 6am and sleep with him on the couch. Well finally my boyfriend had enough of me not being in bed. And my eyes were over the circles I had going on. So I sucked it up and the crate came back out. It has been about 2 months and he doesnt cry at all. Only an occasion bark when he hears a door close. Or a whimper when one of us walks past to go to the bathroom.

I keep and loud ticking clock on the outside of his crate. I keep a chewy bone in there and a blanket that both him and I use to nap with lead him in with a toy. Usually throw it in and he follows...lol As soon as the door closes and before he has a chance to start he gets a good boy and a piece of a cookie.

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Oh also I found earplugs at night would work if you can hear him from your bedroom.
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