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01-06-2006, 11:40 AM | #1 |
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| Crating & gating I just got my little Ollie about a week ago! He was born Oct.12, so he is still just a wee little baby. I currently have him in this large gated area in the kitchen, but he never pees on his pee-pad. Should I get a crate or something like that with his food in it, and then have the pee-pad outside of it (but everything is over all in the gated area?)! He won't stop crying!! Thanks, Jackie |
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01-06-2006, 11:53 AM | #2 |
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| In the beginning you are going to need to paper or peepad the whole area that you are confining him. Be it either an x-pen, kitchen or bathroom. There are people who have set up an x-pen or bathroom with the crate inside. The whole area is papered and the puppy should have access to go in and out of the crate at will, when you are gone. (when you are there. The crate should be used to confine him when you cannot keep an eye on him and to help in learn bladder control) the reason you paper the whole area of confinement, is because your puppy will have no choice but to go on the paper or pee pad. When he starts to favor one area over the other, you can begin removing very small sections of paper at a time so that you are freeing up some floor space and he begins to learn to use only the papered part of the floor. After a while, you are down to a small area or a peepad that he has learned to use. I recommend that you confine him to a smaller area if possible. That way you don't have so much to paper to use and remove. |
01-06-2006, 12:03 PM | #3 |
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| I agree with LadyLavender. Also just be PATIENT with him! He is still very young and afraid of being away from his mom and littermates and you've only had him a week. It can take weeks for him to get used to his new home. Don't scold him, he's too young yet to get it right away.
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01-06-2006, 12:08 PM | #4 |
Yorkie Lover Donating Member | I agree....I would start with a small area for him, it doesn't not neccessary have to be a crate, but just somewhere where he doesn't have tons of room to make a mess. He is still very young and doesn't have much bladder control yet. Give him some time and remain constant and he will learn what he is suppose to do.
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01-07-2006, 08:08 AM | #5 |
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| quick question....I had a trainer tell me that pee pads don't work well because dogs never go in the same spot and thats why outdoors is best. With that said, I'm still using the Pee Pad. We have about 70% success. But why did she say that they don't go in the same spot. When snickers does not use the pee pad....he seem to run into the living room....that's kinda the same spot. |
01-07-2006, 08:41 AM | #6 |
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| You could also get an Xpen they fold up and give you more space or you can make them smaller by folding some of the panels. Mine is made by Precision and I got it at Pet Supplies Plus. Someone else on here got one at Petsmart.
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01-07-2006, 10:22 AM | #7 |
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| I can't tell you. I have never used peepads. I am thinking of trying them next time, but I'm wondering about how affective they are too. I have always used a confined area and then gone right to outside training. It took awhile to 'learn' my dogs own individual 'signal' to 'go'. Some people like the PoochiesBells on the door. I just 'ask' my dogs every half hour when they are young if they want to go pee?' and they have learned over time to respond with a 'bark' or 'speak' to let me know. It took time but works well for me since I'm home most of the time. First a dog must learn basic commands though obviously, so I just take them out every half hour and 'ask' do they want to go pee, and they learn that the words match the door opening to go out. Later after they have learned what 'speak' means, they learn that they must respond with an answer to my question by 'speaking'. If they don't want to go out, then they just sit and stare at me until I guess again. So then I ask, 'do you want food?' and they bark if that is what they want. They have me trained pretty well! But I love the response, they are smart....you have to be willing to give them all of your attention. Do I have messes to clean up, yes, sometimes. But usually it is my fault for not paying attention to them sitting at my feet and trying to tell me what they want, or remembering to let them out regularly. Puppies catch on quickly if allowed to go out at regular intervals and taken to the SAME spot every time they go outside. I don't allow them to doddle around either. I give the command to go pee when I take them to the 'spot' and they go or I take them back inside and try again in a few minutes. This teaches them to pee on command so I don't have to stand there and wait for 20 minutes for them to sniff around. works for me............
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01-09-2006, 05:15 AM | #8 | |
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1. You are training the dog it's ok to go "in the house" or in a dog's view point, in it's den. (Which is contrary to it's nature) While you think you are training your dog to go on a pee pad, and in your mind that's the only acceptable place in the house to go, your dog does not see it that way. He/she sees that you are allowing it to void in the house and it will find similiar objects in the house to go on, like the small rugs, other papers lying around the house, etc. I think we expect to much when we expect the dog to discern the difference. 2. Dogs don't like to go in living areas or where it sleeps. So if you are allowing it to go in the house, it will more likely try to find a private out of the way place to go, (not to hide it from you) but to keep the voiding out of living areas. (this is in it's nature too). So a small dog might pee in a corner and feel proud of himself. In his mind, he's gone as far away from his bed or living area as he can indoors. (and then he gets punished or disciplined for doing what is natural and good in his mind) So trying to housebreak in a house training a dog to use peepads, will be more difficult (not necessarily impossible but require much more dilgence and patience) and may never be 100% accident free, since the dog is getting mixed messages by going against it's nature. | |
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