Help! 1 year old, and still pees and poos everywhere!!! - YorkieTalk.com Forums

HerculesMama · 08-01-2013, 04:13 AM

Please help! Our boy is a year old next week, and still uses the bathroom where've he pleases. During the day, he goes outside, but only if I take him out every 30 minutes, and even then, he will just sit on the back stoop, ad not go in the grass. I have to physically put him in the grass, and make him stay out til he pees. We crate him at night, but he whines and barks all night. Literally. My husband and I are getting no rest at all at night, and the sleep we are getting is extremely interrupted. If we put the crate in another room, he barks and wakes up our boys. We have tried not crating him, but he goes to the bathroom everywhere, and destroys things.

We crate him at night now, and when my husband gets up for work, he lets hum outside, he feeds him, and immediately takes him back outside. This morning he said he was out for over a half hour, and he let him back in. While he was getting his shoes on, Hercules peed all over the couch

. When I woke an hour later, he had destroyed a huge bag of paper that we had to take to recycling. It was on the table, and my only guess is there was a bit hanging down, and he jumped up to get it.
If we crate him while we are gone, even an hour, we come home to a mess in the crate, which means a bath for Hercules, and a thorough cleaning of the crate. If we gate him in the kitchen (only room without carpet), he manages to still pee at the edge of the carpet in the dining room, and we have no idea how. He will pee and poo, and walk thru it. We have tried puppy pads and newspaper, but even taped down, he manages to dig thru them and make a gigantic nasty mess.
When we got Hercules, he was 5 months old, and trained to go on newspaper. We tried to continue that here, and he would go everywhere but the newspaper, including anywhere else that had paper (books he could reach, our printer, our kids homework, etc.). The peeing on the couch is new, and will not be tolerated at all. He will also pee right in front of me, and doesn't seem to care. We make a huge deal when he goes outside. My husband is at the end of his rope, and is already ready to regime him or surrender him to a rescue. He says we can't afford to replace all the carpet in our rental house, and is tired of us shampooing the carpet on a weekly basis. Now, the peeing on the couch, and the fact that we get no sleep. I don't want to get rid of him, but if he is going to go all over our furniture, we may not have a choice. Our 11 year old son will be heartbroken, as will the rest of the family.
He has been neutered if that makes any difference. PLEASE HELP!!!!!!!!!!

kimp5 · 08-01-2013, 05:04 AM

Oh I remember those days. We got Jess at a year old and she was, I was told, pad trained (in realty maybe 60%) She would pee on the floor rug whatever. I crated her and she hated it. I tried all the treats and praise and ..nothing...
first off get a cloth pad. (walmart has them in the baby section)The paper ones while they are still pups are too tempting to shred. Second, limit his area, a lot. Get an xpen or gate and put a small area in the kitchen where everyone is and keep him in there. Take him out only to play and when you can watch him closely. The whole kitchen gated off is way too big. Liken it to him living in this huge space, it would be like you living in giants stadium. Too overwhelming.
Second, at night get a medium sized crate and put it in your kids room. That what made Jess stop barking. She just needed to hear my daughters breathing and she settled. I have enough room for a pad and her bed, nothing else. (like you she would pee right in her bed or poop and not care so the adage "dogs don't poop where they sleep" didn't apply here.
Make sure it has a bottom. Petsmart has them for about 40.00. To this day she still sleeps in it.
When he does have an accident let him know firmly that is not okay. I said "no no" bad pee pee or poopy" very loud and low, then I ignore her for awhile. She hates that. When she did good it was hugs treats and good pee good poop in a high sing song voice. Eventually they can distinguish between the sound of your voice.
As to messing the crate, well Jess still does that if we leave her alone. I finally realized she hates the crate so now we have her in the mudroom with a small crate that's covered open and comfy, and outside comfy bed, a pad and a few toys and water and she has been great even up to 4.5 hours.
She now has run of the house with a pad on both the first and second floor. (never when we are out. There is too much for her to get into. She rarely has an accident and its usually if we move her crate and she gets confused. It will change (almost overnight) but it take a while. Feel free to message me as I had the same problem..

kimp5 · 08-01-2013, 05:06 AM

Oh and Jess is not allowed up on any furniture. Mostly for safety sake (she broke a leg leaping off a couch)

HerculesMama · 08-01-2013, 05:46 PM

Thank you! I'll get some reusable pads tomorrow or Saturday and see if those work better. I may try him in our sons room too before school starts in case he decides to keep him up all night like he has his Mom and Dad for 7 months, lol. Our kitchen is pretty small, but I'll try blocking it off smaller too.

How do you keep yours off the couch? Hercules will jump down if he sees me walk in the living room, or as soon as I say "get down", but he still jumps up there any chance he gets.

kimp5 · 08-02-2013, 04:34 AM

I am very strict about it. She even tries its "no No' and she is put on the ground. (she really doesn't even try) but I would just put him down and over and over say "No No' very loud and low. It may take several times over and over but he will eventually get it. Give him a treat once he stays. You can also use this to teach the stay command. Put him down and say "no no" then "stay" I don't let her up on sofas unless she is in someones lap. Period. I don't need her jumping off and breaking another limb.
As to your kitchen area, its still too big if he can move around enough to find a way to pee somewhere else. Start with the pen just large enough for bed and pad and water. Keep him in a room your in. Jess barked at night for a while too. If the crate doesn't work try the expen in your sons room. I know its a pain to move it around but its worth it.

HerculesMama · 08-02-2013, 12:50 PM

Today is his first day in the pen. He has howled almost the entire time he's been in. We've been taking him out to go outside, and to play. He hasn't peed in the pen, or outside at all as far as I know. He paces and howls, and naps on his pad. Hoping he catches on soon. I'm really tired of cleaning pee out of the carpet, and shampooing the one room on a weekly basis.

ritapatt · 08-02-2013, 02:26 PM

Any new habit we try to instill we give it 3 days , one to introduce, two to enforce, three for them to give up and do it my way. I am always quiet and firm, I trained 3 kids and 3 dogs this way and have had good success. I wish you luck and great fortitude, he sounds like a tough case.

HerculesMama · 08-02-2013, 04:11 PM

It seems so much easier to follow thru with kids. He finally peed on the pad, and hasn't on the floor, but he hasn't been out unless he's closely watched. How do we transition him from living in the pen unless he's with us, to being able to roam around and go outside? I'm assuming we leave a pad out, but we would like him to go outside as much as possible, at least until all the Ohio snow comes this winter. I'm hoping he starts sleeping at night soon, unless whimpering or barking the entire time like he has for the past 7 months. My husband and I are very tired, lol. Thanks your all the help so far!

kimp5 · 08-03-2013, 05:11 AM

It kind of just evolves. It took us almost 7 months brfore hess had
Free roam and she was a year when we got her. Let him master one
Space at a time. The pen may take two weeks before ge settles.
Just ignore him and dont give into the whines. Just leave the room if he continues. Come back when he stops. I would master
The pad for now and not confuse him. Jess does t really ho outside either
But she is being boarded with out groomer and his dogs
(She will live in their house) and they all go outaide so
She may learn then. Once he has consistently gone on the pad
Remove the pen and just gate the kitchen. If he has a mistake back to the pen.
They figure it out eventually. Then introduce one more room at a time.
Sounds time consuming but its worth the price
Of carpets!

buddytheyorkie · 08-03-2013, 07:19 AM

google umbilicle cord potty traing method for dogs and if you have the time it works

kimp5 · 08-05-2013, 05:47 AM

I know tethering works for many but I tried it and if I was engrossed on the computer working or tv I would miss the pee. Didn't work for me but I hear it works wonders for others.

kimp5 · 08-05-2013, 05:51 AM

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Originally Posted by HerculesMama

Today is his first day in the pen. He has howled almost the entire time he's been in. We've been taking him out to go outside, and to play. He hasn't peed in the pen, or outside at all as far as I know. He paces and howls, and naps on his pad. Hoping he catches on soon. I'm really tired of cleaning pee out of the carpet, and shampooing the one room on a weekly basis.

with some dogs it takes about two weeks before they "settle" into their new routine. When Jess had to be crated for 6 weeks with a broken leg the first two were hell, we had to get her tranquilizers but they eventually come around

kimp5 · 08-05-2013, 05:53 AM

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Originally Posted by kimp5

with some dogs it takes about two weeks before they "settle" into their new routine. When Jess had to be crated for 6 weeks with a broken leg the first two were hell, we had to get her tranquilizers but they eventually come around

Oh and dont let him nap on the pad. Jess did that too. Just move him to his bed. If he goes back tell him no. repeat repeat.

HerculesMama · 08-05-2013, 08:09 AM

This is exhausting, and he must be super stubborn. He pees everywhere but the pad, and Saturday made a huge mess in his bed, then took a nap in it before we realized what he did. We made the mistake of leaving him in the pen while we were at church yesterday morning, instead of the crate, and came home to another huge mess. Still not sleeping at night, and keeping us awake. We tried my sons room, and ended up having to move him to our room because of all the noise he was making. We will keep him, but honestly, I'm regretting the decision to get a dog. He's ruined the dining room carpet (we rent), and seems to not be catching on to anything we have done with him, even though we are consistent. He acts like he doesn't hear my voice at all with commands, and is overall a very rowdy and hyper boy. I told our 11 year old that he has to take the dog with him when he moves out, but honestly can imagine dealing with this stuff for years more. I was talking to a woman at the pet store Friday morning who has a Yorkie, and one of hers is 9 years old, and still pees in the floor on a daily basis. He other doesn't at all. Ugh.

08-01-2013, 04:13 AM	#1
HerculesMama Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Ohio Posts: 22	Help! 1 year old, and still pees and poos everywhere!!! Please help! Our boy is a year old next week, and still uses the bathroom where've he pleases. During the day, he goes outside, but only if I take him out every 30 minutes, and even then, he will just sit on the back stoop, ad not go in the grass. I have to physically put him in the grass, and make him stay out til he pees. We crate him at night, but he whines and barks all night. Literally. My husband and I are getting no rest at all at night, and the sleep we are getting is extremely interrupted. If we put the crate in another room, he barks and wakes up our boys. We have tried not crating him, but he goes to the bathroom everywhere, and destroys things. We crate him at night now, and when my husband gets up for work, he lets hum outside, he feeds him, and immediately takes him back outside. This morning he said he was out for over a half hour, and he let him back in. While he was getting his shoes on, Hercules peed all over the couch . When I woke an hour later, he had destroyed a huge bag of paper that we had to take to recycling. It was on the table, and my only guess is there was a bit hanging down, and he jumped up to get it. If we crate him while we are gone, even an hour, we come home to a mess in the crate, which means a bath for Hercules, and a thorough cleaning of the crate. If we gate him in the kitchen (only room without carpet), he manages to still pee at the edge of the carpet in the dining room, and we have no idea how. He will pee and poo, and walk thru it. We have tried puppy pads and newspaper, but even taped down, he manages to dig thru them and make a gigantic nasty mess. When we got Hercules, he was 5 months old, and trained to go on newspaper. We tried to continue that here, and he would go everywhere but the newspaper, including anywhere else that had paper (books he could reach, our printer, our kids homework, etc.). The peeing on the couch is new, and will not be tolerated at all. He will also pee right in front of me, and doesn't seem to care. We make a huge deal when he goes outside. My husband is at the end of his rope, and is already ready to regime him or surrender him to a rescue. He says we can't afford to replace all the carpet in our rental house, and is tired of us shampooing the carpet on a weekly basis. Now, the peeing on the couch, and the fact that we get no sleep. I don't want to get rid of him, but if he is going to go all over our furniture, we may not have a choice. Our 11 year old son will be heartbroken, as will the rest of the family. He has been neutered if that makes any difference. PLEASE HELP!!!!!!!!!!

08-02-2013, 04:11 PM	#8
HerculesMama Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Ohio Posts: 22	It seems so much easier to follow thru with kids. He finally peed on the pad, and hasn't on the floor, but he hasn't been out unless he's closely watched. How do we transition him from living in the pen unless he's with us, to being able to roam around and go outside? I'm assuming we leave a pad out, but we would like him to go outside as much as possible, at least until all the Ohio snow comes this winter. I'm hoping he starts sleeping at night soon, unless whimpering or barking the entire time like he has for the past 7 months. My husband and I are very tired, lol. Thanks your all the help so far! Last edited by HerculesMama; 08-02-2013 at 04:12 PM.

08-01-2013, 05:04 AM	#2
kimp5 YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Boston MA Posts: 890	Oh I remember those days. We got Jess at a year old and she was, I was told, pad trained (in realty maybe 60%) She would pee on the floor rug whatever. I crated her and she hated it. I tried all the treats and praise and ..nothing... first off get a cloth pad. (walmart has them in the baby section)The paper ones while they are still pups are too tempting to shred. Second, limit his area, a lot. Get an xpen or gate and put a small area in the kitchen where everyone is and keep him in there. Take him out only to play and when you can watch him closely. The whole kitchen gated off is way too big. Liken it to him living in this huge space, it would be like you living in giants stadium. Too overwhelming. Second, at night get a medium sized crate and put it in your kids room. That what made Jess stop barking. She just needed to hear my daughters breathing and she settled. I have enough room for a pad and her bed, nothing else. (like you she would pee right in her bed or poop and not care so the adage "dogs don't poop where they sleep" didn't apply here. Make sure it has a bottom. Petsmart has them for about 40.00. To this day she still sleeps in it. When he does have an accident let him know firmly that is not okay. I said "no no" bad pee pee or poopy" very loud and low, then I ignore her for awhile. She hates that. When she did good it was hugs treats and good pee good poop in a high sing song voice. Eventually they can distinguish between the sound of your voice. As to messing the crate, well Jess still does that if we leave her alone. I finally realized she hates the crate so now we have her in the mudroom with a small crate that's covered open and comfy, and outside comfy bed, a pad and a few toys and water and she has been great even up to 4.5 hours. She now has run of the house with a pad on both the first and second floor. (never when we are out. There is too much for her to get into. She rarely has an accident and its usually if we move her crate and she gets confused. It will change (almost overnight) but it take a while. Feel free to message me as I had the same problem..

08-01-2013, 05:06 AM	#3
kimp5 YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Boston MA Posts: 890	Oh and Jess is not allowed up on any furniture. Mostly for safety sake (she broke a leg leaping off a couch)

08-01-2013, 05:46 PM	#4
HerculesMama Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Ohio Posts: 22	Thank you! I'll get some reusable pads tomorrow or Saturday and see if those work better. I may try him in our sons room too before school starts in case he decides to keep him up all night like he has his Mom and Dad for 7 months, lol. Our kitchen is pretty small, but I'll try blocking it off smaller too. How do you keep yours off the couch? Hercules will jump down if he sees me walk in the living room, or as soon as I say "get down", but he still jumps up there any chance he gets.

08-02-2013, 04:34 AM	#5
kimp5 YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Boston MA Posts: 890	I am very strict about it. She even tries its "no No' and she is put on the ground. (she really doesn't even try) but I would just put him down and over and over say "No No' very loud and low. It may take several times over and over but he will eventually get it. Give him a treat once he stays. You can also use this to teach the stay command. Put him down and say "no no" then "stay" I don't let her up on sofas unless she is in someones lap. Period. I don't need her jumping off and breaking another limb. As to your kitchen area, its still too big if he can move around enough to find a way to pee somewhere else. Start with the pen just large enough for bed and pad and water. Keep him in a room your in. Jess barked at night for a while too. If the crate doesn't work try the expen in your sons room. I know its a pain to move it around but its worth it.

08-02-2013, 12:50 PM	#6
HerculesMama Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Ohio Posts: 22	Today is his first day in the pen. He has howled almost the entire time he's been in. We've been taking him out to go outside, and to play. He hasn't peed in the pen, or outside at all as far as I know. He paces and howls, and naps on his pad. Hoping he catches on soon. I'm really tired of cleaning pee out of the carpet, and shampooing the one room on a weekly basis.

08-02-2013, 02:26 PM	#7
ritapatt YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Merritt Island,FL Posts: 1,400	Any new habit we try to instill we give it 3 days , one to introduce, two to enforce, three for them to give up and do it my way. I am always quiet and firm, I trained 3 kids and 3 dogs this way and have had good success. I wish you luck and great fortitude, he sounds like a tough case.

08-03-2013, 05:11 AM	#9
kimp5 YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Boston MA Posts: 890	It kind of just evolves. It took us almost 7 months brfore hess had Free roam and she was a year when we got her. Let him master one Space at a time. The pen may take two weeks before ge settles. Just ignore him and dont give into the whines. Just leave the room if he continues. Come back when he stops. I would master The pad for now and not confuse him. Jess does t really ho outside either But she is being boarded with out groomer and his dogs (She will live in their house) and they all go outaide so She may learn then. Once he has consistently gone on the pad Remove the pen and just gate the kitchen. If he has a mistake back to the pen. They figure it out eventually. Then introduce one more room at a time. Sounds time consuming but its worth the price Of carpets!

08-03-2013, 07:19 AM	#10
buddytheyorkie Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: ireland Posts: 112	google umbilicle cord potty traing method for dogs and if you have the time it works

08-05-2013, 05:47 AM	#11
kimp5 YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Boston MA Posts: 890	I know tethering works for many but I tried it and if I was engrossed on the computer working or tv I would miss the pee. Didn't work for me but I hear it works wonders for others.

08-05-2013, 08:09 AM	#14
HerculesMama Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Ohio Posts: 22	This is exhausting, and he must be super stubborn. He pees everywhere but the pad, and Saturday made a huge mess in his bed, then took a nap in it before we realized what he did. We made the mistake of leaving him in the pen while we were at church yesterday morning, instead of the crate, and came home to another huge mess. Still not sleeping at night, and keeping us awake. We tried my sons room, and ended up having to move him to our room because of all the noise he was making. We will keep him, but honestly, I'm regretting the decision to get a dog. He's ruined the dining room carpet (we rent), and seems to not be catching on to anything we have done with him, even though we are consistent. He acts like he doesn't hear my voice at all with commands, and is overall a very rowdy and hyper boy. I told our 11 year old that he has to take the dog with him when he moves out, but honestly can imagine dealing with this stuff for years more. I was talking to a woman at the pet store Friday morning who has a Yorkie, and one of hers is 9 years old, and still pees in the floor on a daily basis. He other doesn't at all. Ugh.