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05-16-2013, 02:54 PM | #1 |
Stewie Rox the Sox Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Chicago
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| At Wit's End! Stewie is almost 9. He barks non-stop for any noise, for treats, for anything. He barks at the cat whenever she enters the room. He attacks us when we're leaving. He pees in the house. He no longer barks to go out--just pees and sh*ts wherever he feels like. He's really out of control and nothing has changed with ME or in his environment, so I can't blame it. I can only blame him. My neighbors hate me. My husband hates how I feel because I hate the dog now. I don't know what else to do. Can anyone offer me any advice?! I am thinking of medicating him. THANKS. And no, I'm not a flamer. This is true feelings.
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05-16-2013, 02:59 PM | #2 |
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| It sounds like he thinks he's boss. Might need to go back to Yorkie 101 with training. I don't have specifics to help you but I'm sure others will be coming by to offer help. Good luck, I know these behaviors can be corrected because I have heard of others that had to take a few steps backwards.
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05-16-2013, 04:15 PM | #3 |
YT 2000 Club Donating Member | I am assuming 9 is almost 9 years old and not 9 months old. If so, your dog is well into middle age. THis is a time when organ systems can start to decline. If you have not had him thoroughly checked out by your vet, that is your first step, along with a very clear explanation of what is going on with your dog. You need to rule out UTI, prostate enlargement, bladder problems, also his thyroid should be thoroughly tested (that is with the expanded panel). Now have these behaviours gradually over a period of years built up, or have they been realatively recent ..say over the past 6mths. If there was years of build up, how did you correct in the past for excessive barking, peeing in the house etc? Have you stopped those corrections? A dog that is well behaved and changes over a period of months quite drastically usually has some underlying medical issue. One whose behaviour has done on gradual slide downwards.....well the person to look is yourself. If he gets a clean bill of health, try getting into your home an animal behaviouralist. Both of you will need to re-learn good habits. If he is peeing where-ever he wants to in the house etc, then he has not earned the right to be "free" in the house. Confine him to an expen, in between the many walks, and outdoor play sessions you are going to do daily with him. A tired dog, is more likely a good dog. Every two hours out he goes for a walk, and to pee and or poo. Always after eating, getting up from sleeping, and if you have an indoor play time after that too. Then get yourself a black light, and lots of enzymatic cleaner and go over your whole house cleaning out the smell of the urine stains. You can also get a steam cleaner for rugs and floors, after your have cleaned up the urine stains. Barking; here I would say try to have him bark on command. Then over treat if (of course he obeys), once he is quiet say GOOD BOY, and do a short play session with him. Eventually he will understand Quiet Good Boy and obey that command. Work on his obedience commands 2 or 3 times a day - including the times you are walking him. It does sound like he has gotten into the habit of barking, and while hard to break it can be done. Ask your vet for a reference to a good animal behaviourist in your area. Hope this helps
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05-16-2013, 04:40 PM | #4 | |
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05-16-2013, 04:58 PM | #5 |
I ♥ Joey & Ralphie! Donating Member | I agree with Gemy a vet check is in order, I'm wondering if he might have diabetes, and it sounds like his vision could be bad, dogs often get cataracts from the diabetes and this makes their vision poor. They see things more as shadows and this could be why he’s barking at the cat when he never use to. Diabetes also increases thirst and so urination is more frequent, perhaps this might cause soiling of carpet? Anyway, I hope the vet can find some answers. Regarding barking, I had a lot of success with Teresa Ford's thread on barking. http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/gen...h-barking.html. I trained every day for two weeks and I could see a difference by the second week. It's not as immediate as punishments such as coins in the can, but it's long lasting. Sorry you're so frustrated.
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05-16-2013, 05:34 PM | #6 |
Stewie Rox the Sox Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Chicago
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| Thanks for the tips--some I will definitely use. His behavior sharply declined--it wasn't a gradual thing. I consider myself a very experienced dog owner and am baffled at his behavior. I did have him checked by a vet--a full blood panel and muscle tests. Everything checked out perfect. I even went to a second vet to get a second opinion to my wallet's dismay. I luckily work from home, so I have him out and playing every hour--whenever I get restless behind a desk myself. I stay out there until he pees. When I get up the next hour or 1.5 hours to take him out again, there will be a small puddle in the living room. Like, whatever he could squeeze out since he just went. Luckily, I have all hardwood floors His vision is definitely not going. He is just spiteful and mean all of a sudden. I know it sounds stupid, but I truly believe it. I was wondering if he is going senile. He attacks visitors when they LEAVE, not come. He attacks the cat in a mean way now--they used to play fight and it was very charming. Now I am afraid for her. What Diane said really struck a chord...I am going to have to start doing de-alpha dog training. Not free feeding, not sleeping in bed with me, off the furniture, and working on keeping his mind stimulated learning tricks. He definitely thinks he's the boss. Thanks ladies for the tips. The thread on barking is great. He knows ENOUGH and QUIET, but not how to bark on command, so this might work on him. If anyone else wants to chime in on anything else, please do because I am feeling empowered to get the behavior in order, but can use any more motivation and support so I don't strangle him.
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05-16-2013, 05:34 PM | #7 |
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| Oh, and Nancy, I love your avatar! Brilliant!
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05-16-2013, 05:44 PM | #8 |
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| He's not spiteful - dog's don't have that reasoning ability but he very well might have dementia. Read about sundowning and some of the things dogs with brain problems do. Also, he could have something the vet just hasn't found. Dogs don't just change their behavior for no reason or to get even with or spite people. Changes of behavior are routinely recognized by experienced dog experts and handlers and trainers as a cry for help. Google the term "my dog's behavior has changed radically". Our little dogs have no way to talk to and tell us when life is throwing them curves and all they can do is react poorly to things happening around them as their health or lifestyle is going wrong for them. But I wouldn't say I hate him - which of course you don't - you're just worried and puzzled. I would understand that he's in trouble and needs your understanding and help. You are his only voice now and must find out what is wrong and help him deal with it. I'll bet when you find out what is really wrong, you will realize underneath his trouble, he's the same sweet family member you've longed loved.
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05-16-2013, 05:48 PM | #9 |
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| Whatever training you do use with him to help correct his barking, please don't use aversizes and further traumatize him or stress him with spraying him in the face with water and things, just use positive reinforcement and make it a fun game to bark for a treat and then stop barking for a treat and praise.
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05-16-2013, 06:01 PM | #10 |
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__________________ Jeanie and Tibbe One must do the best one can. You may get some marks for a very imperfect answer: you will certainly get none for leaving the question alone. C. S. Lewis |
05-16-2013, 06:22 PM | #11 | |
I ♥ Joey & Ralphie! Donating Member | Quote: Treatment of Cognitive Dysfunction The primary signs of cognitive dysfunction syndrome can be summarized with the acronym CRASH, which stands for: •Confusion/disorientation •Responsiveness/recognition decreases •Activity changes •Sleep-wake cycle disturbances •House training lapses Cognitive dysfunction syndrome can be treated by your dog’s veterinarian with the drug selegiline hydrochloride (brand name Anipryl®). There are a number of other medications and supplements that you and your vet may consider as well. It’s most effective to combine drug therapy with behavioral treatment that’s based on the specific problems your dog is having.
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05-16-2013, 07:01 PM | #12 |
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| Just a few more links. Just for research to see if any of these things sound like your dog and to show you that so often dogs misbehaving and acting out is so frequently due to something going on with them physically. But not always - it could be some other stressors in his life associated with your lifestyle changes or schedule with him or another dog is giving him troubles and he's insecure. Whatever it is, you really need to find out even if you have to hire an in-home animal behaviorist after a thorough vet check, second opinion and all physical factors have ruled out. I sure hope you find a way to help your elder. Sundown Syndrome in Dogs??? - Behavior & Training Forum http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/sic...-syndrome.html The Pet Docs
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05-17-2013, 04:36 AM | #14 | |
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He mostly likely is not being spiteful or doing it out of spite. If this is a sudden change. You did right going to the vet and double checking with another vet. What did they say about his hearing? Our old black lab had to be put down just before Christmas. His behaviour changed about a year before his final decline.(spinal problems) He barked more and louder as his hearing went, it seemed someone moving made him jump, because he didn't hear them coming in. Sudden movement, had him jumping out of his skin, due to the hearing loss and he went quite senile also. He'd appeared to forget what he was doing half way through doing it. Stare into space for ages, then seemed to come out of it. He also started pooing, accidently...when walking or sleeping. Eventually peeing also. Any chance the movement of the visitors leaving, is confusing your dog, startling him in some way? I hope you find a solution. It can feel as it's personal, but it's not. Going back to scratch with the training is a great idea, here's hoping that works for you. | |
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