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03-29-2013, 05:14 PM | #1 |
Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: NC
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| panic when left inside alone! I have 5 dogs lol ( 4 yorkies and a sheltie) and I only have two hands to put them on leashes to take them outside. They all go on a leash except my sheltie. She roams freely and dosent leave my side when called, not to mention we have hawks that watch our yard like crazy) So in order for me to take them outside I have to leave two inside and take two yorkies out on a leash at a time. When i leave the two males inside they go crazy!! How can I break the whining, crying, barking etc.? I feel so bad hearing them go into panic mode but there is no way I can walk all four of them at a time. |
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03-29-2013, 05:32 PM | #2 |
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| Oh my goodness! Now that's a problem I never thought of having. LOL I know your problem may sound a bit funny...thinking of you trying to walk all 5 down the sidewalk at once...but I know this is a serious matter. I'm afraid I don't know what advice to give you so maybe this will bump higher on the list and someone with more knowledge than me will be able to help. Good Luck, I hope everything works out!!
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03-29-2013, 05:43 PM | #3 |
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| I don't even know if what you are asking is possible but I think you can help calm some of the wildness and frantic behavior but stop it entirely - probably not. I think you are going to have to have a helper walk the other dogs while you stay in for a while and train them. Get their attention on a treat in your hand and put them in a down stay and give treats for calm behavior and staying down. Softly say "yesssss" as the dog just lies there but should he raise up, alert, say "uh oh" and put him down gently in place or use the leash to have him lie back down. Say stay, wait a bit and if he stays down for 5 seconds, say "yesssss" softly to mark(not happy to generate excitement) and for every 5 seconds the dog stays down, "yessss" and treat. Just sit and watch and mark good behavior with treats and raising up with "uh oh" and gently put him back into the lie down. In time, he should start to do that himself as soon as he sees your hands come toward him after the "uh oh". After about 8 - 10 minutes, treat the dogs to some safe chew toys or treat-filled kongs and should one of them bolt to the window and start to bark, get him, bring him back and tell him "down" and "stay" when he does lie down, then "yes" and treat. Every few seconds as long as he stays down, "yes" and treat. Raises up, "uh oh" and hands on gently back down, "yes" and treat. Eventually, if you keep repeating this behavior, it should start to teach your dogs that when the others are out walking, if they will stay down and quiet, they get treats and then chew toys. It should help to get them over the hump of going crazy but I will tell you unless you are a very strong pack leader and in very excellent command of your dogs and an excellent dog trainer to boot, you will never have dogs that will quietly lie around while the others are out walking without a helper to get them quietly through this until they are much older. After about two or three weeks of working with them this way and if they are mostly being good, staying quiet for 8 - 10 minutes and can get their chews and toys, have your walker stay in with the dogs and you go outside and walk one dog around for a few seconds. Come back in and do not look at the dogs, which the trainer should maintain in down/stays as you come in. Walk over and treat them with no words if they stay down and sit down beside them, calm and quiet. Treat some more. In a bit, go out and walk that dog around a bit and quickly come quietly back in and have the trainer keep them quiet, in down/stays as you do, walking over to quietly give each a treat for staying down and then you sit down with them again. Just keep repeating that and desensitizing them to your walking the dog for a short period and then you are back inside and treating them. Should in time start to help them slowly allow you to walk a dog while they remain down and quiet, rewarded if they are and placed back down if not. Theoretically and after a good two months of this kind of shaping of their behavior, they should be much calmer and you can try walking two dogs for a minute or two and come back in quietly and matter-of-factly with the dogs, walk over and treat them if they are calm, "uh oh"-ing and placing them down if they are not. Repeat repeat repeat and they should start to see a pattern that if they stay down and quiet, you will come back in and give them treats. And in time, you switch and work on the other dogs staying down and calm as you walk the first set. IDK if it will work all that well but it should start to give them some impulse control and reinforce quiet behavior while walking is taking place. I'd love to have a report and see how you are doing by May or June. This is pack behavior and it is natural for them to feel left out of the pack walk and to raise a ruckus calling their pack members back. All you can do is hope to train them some to keep them from going wild and teach them some impulse control to get them past this point.
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03-29-2013, 06:22 PM | #4 |
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| The only other things I would suggest: #1. Try putting each dog in his crate with a kong-filled treat or safe chew with the crate well away from the window and perhaps cover the crate while you are out walking the other dogs. In time, it should send the message to each dog that he might as well lie quietly and busy himself with his kong/chew while you are out. You also might try withhoding the treat-filled kongs get a temporary helper to toss in treats just under one edge of the cover when the dogs are quiet within the crates. That is the only other thing I can think of that might in time teach the dogs that remain inside that going crazy won't get them anything and staying quiet could get a treat tossed in. You could try it and see. Some dogs will calm and quieten in their own crate once an initial spate of barking is over. #2. Thundershirts might help them quieten and stay calm while you are walking the other dogs, too. I don't think there is any teaching associated with using one and you just put them on the dog and see if it calms him. If there is any teaching associated with wearing them, I haven't heard about it - haven't had to use one so I don't know for sure. Might be worth a try and I think there is a money-back guarantee but might have to read the seller's terms to be certain of that.
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03-29-2013, 06:27 PM | #5 | |
Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: NC
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I never thought about it like that. You see the Yorkies are actually my moms, She had a pickagenese (sp) that was hit by a car last fall and decided she wanted another dog and it went from one dog to 4. My dog is the sheltie. She is always at work so ive basically taken over raising and training the yorkies, and they listen to me way more then her. Ty for your tips I will definatly try them | |
03-29-2013, 06:30 PM | #6 | |
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unfourtunatly the cages wont help ive tried that. Ive thought about buying the thundershirts. I saw them the other day at petsmart and asked a couple of people there if they have tried them and Nobody knew what they were for. Ty for your tips ill have to look into the thunder shirts | |
03-29-2013, 06:40 PM | #7 | |
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But in the meantime, if you have unhappy neighbors with all of the noise, you might try getting one of those Bark Silencer-type machines that emits an ultrasonic noise when barking starts. It is sensitive to the sound waves of barking and will emit that noise that only the dogs can hear and it stops some dogs from barking and doesn't work on others. You might try that also. I don't think they are terribly expensive.
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04-07-2013, 05:45 AM | #8 |
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| I agree with the posters who say try and distract them with a treat But it's going to be hard I know because I have a similar situation when I need to go out and pack the car when I go out when I take the laundry out I usually do errands and I will take my two dogs with me They LOVE being in the car and They will get all excited when they see me getting the laundry bags ready I will pack the car but return for them after But when I first go down and leave them ...... I feel so bad they scream and cry as if they have their paws in a bear trap
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04-08-2013, 05:40 AM | #9 |
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| Why not get a coupler and walk them all that is what I do. I walk my two large dogs on one coupler leash and then using my other hand two small dogs on one coupler leash. This way I can walk all four at same time. |
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