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03-05-2012, 07:58 PM | #1 |
Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Lake George, NY
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| How to tell if they have to go potty? Hi Everyone! I have a 5mo male, (not neutered yet he will be after he turns 6mo) I am training him with a grass potty patch on our porch. My question is, how can I tell if he needs to go outside? Does anyone have tips for training to do a trick? I tried to get him to ding a bell by putting his paw on it before I let him outside but it scared him and made him scared of the door for a couple days, he isnt scared anymore thankfully! My other concern is that he will only let me know he has to go potty when we are playing fetch with him and he will instead of running right back to us with his ball he will make a little loop and walk past the door first...other than during play time he won't let us know when he needs to go....has anyone had this happen and figured something out? It hasn't concerned me much because I'm a "housewife" and home with him all day so I usually let him out frequently, and he was doing extremely well and not having any accidents until just now we were snuggling on the couch and he was sleeping and I got up to get a drink (5ft from couch) and he got up to watch where I was going which is normal for him, and then when I turned around for literally 5seconds he peed on the ottoman and he has never done that before so now he's back in his crate and I'm concerned now! Thanks for listening to me vent a little and any advice would be wonderful!! P.S when he had his accident I picked him up by his harness shirt (so he knows its not a good pick up) and said "NO!" very stern and put him in his crate for 5mins, then put him outside he peed again on his patch I said good boy, and pet him and then put him back in crate is that a good way to punish?!? Thank you all!
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03-06-2012, 06:32 AM | #2 |
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| Hi and Welcome to YT! If a pup or dog is not giving signals, then go by time. An hour for each month of age is the general rule for how long a pup can 'Hold it'. Also the 'key' times for pottying, waking up, after play and/or a nap, after meals, and just before bedtime. The problem with 'punishing' a Yorkie is that sometimes they learn that Pottying is bad, not where they went was bad. Or they can develop a fear of the owner. In general, if a pup potties in the wrong place, it is considered the owner's fault, and in this instance, he was asleep, and you did not take him out when he woke up. So he should not have been punished. Crates should not be used for punishment. To train a Yorkie, Positive Reinforcement is the best way. So reward him with tons of praise and a treat whenever he does something right. They learn quicker this way.
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03-06-2012, 06:46 PM | #3 |
Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Lake George, NY
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| Thank you for the response! I appreciate your feedback!
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03-06-2012, 06:59 PM | #4 |
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| You're welcome! Wish you luck with the little guy! There are tons of threads on potty training, you could try a search (see bottom of any page) of YT to bring them up.
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03-06-2012, 08:51 PM | #5 |
2+2=4 X the Love ♥ Donating Member | Normally a pup will have their nose to the ground and seem a bit more rushed while sniffing in search of the perfect spot. I have training tips that I have use and have been very successful with training my four Yorkies and several others. Take a look and see if there is anything helpful. Training Tips - Dawn's Yorkies Ohio
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03-07-2012, 08:41 AM | #6 |
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| Every dog is different with when they signal the need to go out and what the signal is. Most puppies in my experience start to become distracted and sniff around something in a circle or line pattern when they need to potty. 5 dogs right now and everyone is different. Zoey will just stare at you- Sure I can read minds- Not. Buddy will pace and whine a little. Cozy will bark and circle then runs to the door- She is the most vocal about needed to go out. Lucy will just stand and look at the door- Great if you see her get up but not if you don't- Another one who thinks I can read minds or she thinks she can open the door with her mind. Roxy will look panicked and run to hide. My previous Golden Lucky was the best about it. He would go to the door then run back to you cry "Urt" and run back to the door. If you were sleeping he would keep hitting you with his paw and crying "Urt." We get trained long before the dogs do or maybe we are the only ones who actually are trained. They do get to dictate when they need to go out. Some day I will have a fenced yard with doggie doors- That will be my heaven.
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03-07-2012, 11:16 AM | #7 |
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| we do the pad in the house and garage and go outdoors. Hubby usually takes them out several times thru the night. Maggie seems to have a different way she comes up to me when she needs to potty. She kinda looks at me and makes sure she gets my attention. She doesn't give up either. I tell hubby to take out and sure enough she goes potty. Hot Rod has definite signs of running or rushing quickly to known areas that he pottied If he doesn't go on our walks, the gates are closed off to the rest of the downstairs and we watch him very closely.
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03-07-2012, 11:37 AM | #8 |
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| Usually, if they have any warning, younger puppies do sniff the floor and begin to run about urgently sniffing. Very young puppies usually sniff and run and then squat so quickly you don't have enough time to get to them before the toilet and that is why we keep them on papers/pads, etc., until they develop more control. Other times they just squat with no anticipatory activity so the best thing you can do is anticipate yourself and get your baby to the spot just ahead of the urge and keep him there until he does his potty business. Read the training literature for all the times when you should expect toileting(after naps, meals, playing, confinement, etc.) and then begin to watch what it is your dog does just before he toilets. Whatever he does right before going is his "tell" and after watching his behavior for half a day, you will pick up on what he does say the last 10 - 20 minutes before that "tell" point. That is really your key when a puppy is very young - what activity is it that will eventually lead to the need to toilet and how much time usually elapses before the onset of that activity and his "tell". Try to anticipate his need and take him out/put him on his potty pad just prior to his "tell" while he is still very puppish. Eventually, he will have more control and you can wait until you see the "tell" to take him out or to his potty spot. As he grows older, his way to tell you will usually change and they often stop the urgent sniffing and dogs will either often start to spin in circles; go the the door that leads outside; start to paw at the potty pad; try to get and hold your attention with a long, sober look; bark and act excited for no other known reason, etc., etc. Dogs can develop a variety of ways to "tell" you they need to go so learn his body language as quickly as you can and you will begin to anticipate when it is "time" and whatever activity he does that is a little different after that is usually his way of "telling" you he needs to go potty. Give him lots of praise after his "good potty" and never punish for a "mistake".
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03-07-2012, 08:32 PM | #9 |
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| Thank you all so much for the info! I've read the articles you've suggested and researched on here more as well, this forum has become like a bible to me! Hahaha!
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03-07-2012, 09:09 PM | #10 |
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| It helps to know others have been there and struggled too. it's like a big support group.
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03-07-2012, 09:31 PM | #11 |
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| I don't envy you. It takes a while for them to get it. I have a large cat jingle ball hanging on a ribbon from a cup hook next to my sliding door. Copper now puts his paw on the bell and jingles it to go out. It didn't take him long to learn that if he rings that bell he gets to go outside! At first it was more about going outside (still is sometimes) but now he has got it. Accidents are extremely rare (Yea!!!!!). Copper turned 2 on Dec. 29th.
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03-09-2012, 12:49 PM | #12 |
Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Lake George, NY
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| Thank You all so much!! I agree this place is like a big support group, it's great!! I did try a bell to get him to ding it when he needed to go out, but he is scared of the bell! So I took the bell away immediately! He's been doing great lately (knock on wood!) Now we are just dealing with the problem of him walking to the door not only when he has to potty but when he just wants some fresh air too! But at least he's going outside!!
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