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07-04-2011, 07:30 AM | #1 |
YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Dakota City, Iowa USA
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| New puppy poops and pees in crate. Please advise! What do I do when my new puppy poops and pees in her crate? I thought dogs didn't like to do that? She has no problem messing then laying and walking in it. How do I possibly train her bladder then? Any advice is greatly appreciated. |
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07-04-2011, 07:51 AM | #2 |
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| Congrats on your new one! Can you give us some more info about your new addition: age, where bought/adopted from, etc.? Thanks.
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07-04-2011, 08:47 AM | #3 |
And Rylee Finnegan Donating Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Metro Detroit, MI
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| If the crate is small enough, most dogs won't. However, mine does and she has for almost 10 years now. Never been able to train her out of it. I attribute it to the way she was raised as a young pup (cage with newspaper where breeder kept them).
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07-04-2011, 12:11 PM | #4 |
Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: May 2011 Location: Draper Utah
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| Moses was doing that and when I told one of the gals at his daycare, she told me that his crate should just be big enough for him to turn around. So I stuffed towels in the back of it to take up the extra room. That solved the problem!
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07-04-2011, 12:49 PM | #5 |
YT Addict Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Abbotsford, BC, Canada
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| I think too big a crate is the usual problem, too. The dog should be able to stand up and turn around comfortably, no more, no less. However, I think that it also depends on how they were handled when first born. I believe that puppy mill dogs, when raised in a cage and taught to pee and poo inside it, will have a hard time breaking this learned habit. |
07-04-2011, 01:00 PM | #6 |
Owned by a Gremlin Donating Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: The Mitten State!
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| This was my biggest problem with Gizmo. He did this because he was from a BYB/Puppymill and because he had major major seperation anxiety. We ended up getting him a smaller crate with the divider, used a belly band, and basically threw one of my or my husbands worn shirt in there when I would put him in there. Also, take little trips when putting them in there. Example, go get ice cream one night so he's in ther for only 20 minutes or so, when you come back and he's clean, make like a huge deal out of it. Keep extending the time frame. One of the problems with young puppies is that they panic and haven't built that trust that you, Momma, are going to be coming back. Which definately doesn't help with a belly being upset. Good luck! Keep us posted! And be sure to put lots of treats in the crate when you put him in there! Make it his hut!
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07-04-2011, 01:36 PM | #7 |
Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Orange County, CA
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| How old is your pup? how long after do you wait after meals to take pup out to potty? Personal experience, usually if their create is bigger than 'just enough to turn around in', they will do their business in it if not monitored regularly during training.
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07-05-2011, 04:46 PM | #8 |
YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Dakota City, Iowa USA
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| age, etc Bella is 15 weeks old. She was taken from her mom at 8 weeks and put in a kennel with her sister for 2 weeks, then at 10 weeks seperated and alone in a crate. She pooped and peed in there and ate/drank/slept also. I have always suspected that this was why she does it now. Her crate is small with a divider and was only big enough to turn around in. She still pooped/peed in there. So, she was dirty as can be everytime she was in there. She sleeps with me at night and doesn't go for 7-8 hours sometimes. But during the day, she will mess in her exercise pen or crate after just an hour or so. I have followed every single bit of 'yorkie' training advice I have found but my concern is how do I train her bladder to 'hold it' if she doesn't mind messing where she sleeps? I have tried with a blanket/towel, without. I put toys in there that get thrown away or washed. Now, I have put her kennel in her exercise pen with the door open and a towel in there so she will hopefully establish that as her 'place to sleep'. I took out the divider. When she sleeps/naps, she always goes in the kennel. She still messes, but only in the exercise pen (that has a waterproof bottom...thank goodness). We set a timer for regular trips outside and praise her a TON when she goes outside. I am not willing to paper train her. I have another big dog and don't want that in my house with him. Plus, I don't like the idea of it anyway. She never whines or barks or anything when she has to go. So, I keep working with her, but every other dog I have ever had has always whined when they need to go and doesn't mess in their 'den' AKA...crate. So, this has been very frustrating for me. Thanks again for anymore advice! I appreciate all of you so much! |
07-06-2011, 07:33 AM | #9 |
YT Addict Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Abbotsford, BC, Canada
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| If she's been "trained" to go in her kennel then I think it's just going to take A LOT of patience. Personally, I'm finding potty training the hardest part of having a puppy. I get so frustrated, very quickly, and I know that Ozzy senses my unhappiness and frustration. I think that's actually making the process take longer (though to be fair it's only been one week!). I'm trying really hard to remain calm, but it's my biggest challenge. I can't imagine how frustrating it would be if he was peeing or pooping in his crate! Hang in there. I'm sure she will understand eventually. |
07-06-2011, 06:02 PM | #10 |
Owned by a Gremlin Donating Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: The Mitten State!
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| Oh these posts bring me back to the pulling my hair out and crying myself to sleep puppy days!
__________________ Taryn Momma to Gizmo AKA Monkeyman My husband, daughter, son, and dog make me who I am "My goal in life is to be as good of a person my dog already thinks I am." |
07-24-2011, 05:29 PM | #11 |
YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Dakota City, Iowa USA
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| completely frustrated! My friend got a morkie from the exact same kennel a few weeks ago and he will NOT pee or poop in his kennel when he is in it. Bella not only pees and poops in hers, she eats her poop after she does it. I set a timer, I take her out religously on time, I reward her when she does, potty time is only potty time, never play time. I am so very frustrated. I simply don't know what else to do. |
07-24-2011, 05:34 PM | #12 | |
Owned by a Gremlin Donating Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: The Mitten State!
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How old is she now?
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07-24-2011, 06:18 PM | #13 | |
Mardelin Yorkshire Terriers Donating Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: California
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Keep her in the x-pen with a pee pad in a corner......if she is going on the pee pad, great you've established her potty area.....
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07-24-2011, 06:24 PM | #14 | |
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07-24-2011, 07:02 PM | #15 |
Therapy Yorkies Work Donating Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Central, Florida
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| I too had a poop eating pup once. I was at my wits end. Then an old trainer said " Read Smarter than you Think by Paul Loeb. Read page 133, the cardboard match trick and use 1/2 a Q-tip instead. Just coat the cotton bulb with petroleum jelly. And tell the puppy go pottie. Praise like crazy when they poop. Pick up the poop at once." I read it the book and tried it. It worked. I got the book from the library, because I already had about 20 books on dog training. LOL Hope this helps. |
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