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Old 03-05-2010, 10:37 PM   #1
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Confused 15 month old male still not totally potty trained

My little Max is almost 15 months old and unless i keep him locked in my room with me he poops and pees everywhere. This is fine for now but I am about to get a job soon and won't be here to take him out. I would leave him in my room but he crys and annoys others in the house and others refuse to take him out. Instead I come home to poop everywhere. Also If I am not in the room he throws a fit and will deliberately poop and pee on my bed. PLEASE HELP!
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Awww... He's cute!
My oldest boy Crusty had somewhat same problem.
If you are not working and have time, you need to pay attention to him like his body guard. I put Crusty on the wee wee pad right away as soon as he woke up. And whenever I saw him tying to do his business, I brought wee wee pad to him and praised him like he won gold medal in olympics. After tat, I put wee wee pad where he could find easily, and placed him on the pad right after he did his business, and praised him with treats which I stopped after while. I made sure that he couldn't smell his pee pee & poo poo...by cleaning my floor like crazy. My whole house was Crusty's public toilet until he turned 7month. He still has accidents about once a month. It will take some time, but if you are commited he'll come around. good luck.
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My little Max is almost 15 months old and unless i keep him locked in my room with me he poops and pees everywhere. This is fine for now but I am about to get a job soon and won't be here to take him out. I would leave him in my room but he crys and annoys others in the house and others refuse to take him out. Instead I come home to poop everywhere. Also If I am not in the room he throws a fit and will deliberately poop and pee on my bed. PLEASE HELP!

I never could train Apple, 'till I got rid of the carpet, put in laminate, and took her outside to do her business...She was not, under any circumstances, going to pee on the pads...I don't know why? Anyway, if you don't have any uncarpeted area, while you are gone, then go buy a remnant of vinyl/linoleum that will fit under an x-pen, and you can leave your kiddo there, while you are at work...I'm of the opinion, that nothing on the planet will ever get the smell, completely, out of the carpet, and they're always tempted to go in the same spots...
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i have only had my little boy for 4 days and he is 10 weeks old today, but he seems to be catching on really well with what im doing...

if he eats or drinks within 10-15 min i take him in my bathroom where his pad is and stay in there with him play with him and as we are playing when i see that little button nose start to go i put my finger on his pad and say "potty" so he knows the word and he is curious so he runs over there to see what im talking about once he gets a whiff of whatever is on there he does his crazy circle around the pad and then pees same thing with poopy...also since i know how crucial it is right now for him to get trained i have had to wake up one time in the middle of the night to take him to the bathroom....

but other than that maybe you should try crate training him i hear that works well....and maybe start now while your still home...

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my suggestion would to be to crate him or place him in an expen when you are not there...that is sorta disgusting to have him peeing and pooping on your bed every time you leave...jmho
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I would also suggest an xpen. I got one for my 2nd yorkie after losing my first little guy to a tragic accident.This has a gate and while home I leave gate open so she can go in and out. I love it and wish that I had gotten one the first go around.I place the pee pads at one end a bed and water at the other. My baby stays in hers while we work and the kids are at school this has worked wonderfully and already at only 14 wks she runs to her pads in her x pen from anywhere in the house to go potty. I also place her in here in the middle of the night when she licks me and wakes me up and she'll potty in here then too. I tried strictly outside training my first baby and this just seems to work better.
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When we first adopted my Neko last year from the humane society, he was already potty trained to go outside, but just needed time to get use to his new home and the rules that went along with it. He had to learn which door he'd be using to get outside, etc. Some don't agree, but I do beleive that the create training works well! I kept Neko in the crate when we weren't playing with him during the day and only took him out every 2 hours to use the potty and also 15 minutes or so after each meal. I took him to my back door telling him, "outside potty" everytime. When he finally went potty, I gave him lots of praise and then a treat. Doing this for about a week or so, just kinda rubbed off the way I'd hoped. Then I went to the crafts store and purchase a thick string and a bell. This hangs from the door knob on the back door so that when Neko goes to the back door to jump on it, we'd hear the bell and run to take him out. Each time I tell him "good doggie ring the bell, outside potty". So now when ever he's just sitting alone, I can say "ring the bell, outside potty" and he goes running outside to potty. It took time and consistancy not to mention a great deal of patience, but he learned! I am also a firm beleiver that no dog is perfect just as we aren't, they will still have accidents from time to time. Just try to find something that works for you and your baby, then remember to give lots of "praise and treats" and to also be "consistant!!" Good Luck
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All of these are wonderful ideas. my fiance says that he thinks its cruel to crate him so he wont let me. I left him in a crate just one day and he had pooped and peed all in it and had got in all over him plus he had cried til he had no voice. So my fiance has said that WE ARE NOT crating him. lol As for pee pee pads I'd love that but again my fiance said that we arent teaching to potty in the house period even if it is on a pad. So he said he learns to go outside or he stays outside. so I've kept him in the room with me at all times and I take him out on his leash every hour. He hasn't had any accients in 4 days now but I am so worried about when I wont be here. My fiance says I can't leave him in the room because he cries and bothers his brother.
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All of these are wonderful ideas. my fiance says that he thinks its cruel to crate him so he wont let me. I left him in a crate just one day and he had pooped and peed all in it and had got in all over him plus he had cried til he had no voice. So my fiance has said that WE ARE NOT crating him. lol As for pee pee pads I'd love that but again my fiance said that we arent teaching to potty in the house period even if it is on a pad. So he said he learns to go outside or he stays outside. so I've kept him in the room with me at all times and I take him out on his leash every hour. He hasn't had any accients in 4 days now but I am so worried about when I wont be here. My fiance says I can't leave him in the room because he cries and bothers his brother.

You and Max are in a tough situation, here. It sounds like your fiance hasn't really bonded with Max, and that his expectations of him are totally unrealistic. Has he ever successfully house trained a toy dog? Terriers are tough little customers sometimes, totally unlike other breeds.

If you want to learn how to train Max, PLEASE listen to the folks on this board who have actually been successful. They know what they are talking about. Crates are not cruel unless they are used to excess and the dog is confined all of the time. Crate training takes advantage of a dog's natural instinct not to soil the area where they sleep, and are only a temporary tool until the dog recognizes that the whole house is their den. Try the crate again, but for a very short period of time, say 1 hour, then take Max outside. Don't start out crate training him by leaving him in there all day. He won't understand that he only needs to hold it for awhile, and will go ahead and relieve himself in the crate because he doesn't know that you'll be back soon to let him out.

This is going to sound a harsh, but if you can't get Max trained before you have to start leaving him during the day, then you should seriously consider surrendering him to a reliable rescue. They will find him someone who will either tolerate his accidents or will use one of the tried and true methods to get him trained. Otherwise, Max is going to be a constant source of friction in your relationship with your fiance and with other members of your household (the brother) and you and Max will both be miserable. I know you are devoted to Max and are cringing at my suggestion, but you have to be realistic about the situation. Tossing a tiny dog outside to live permanently because of an owner's ineffective approach to house training is inhumane, and I know you love Max much too much to ever be cruel to him. Tiny dogs do not have enough body mass to tolerate extremes in either hot or cold weather, their coats are thin and get matted easily when they are not groomed regularly. They can escape through fences, their necks are too fragile to tolerate being tethered, and they are too small to defend themselves from any neighborhood dog (or even cat) who wanders into their yard if they are left outside unattended. You got Max to be your companion, and that is what he wants to be, too. He would die of a broken heart if he was left outside all day by himself. (Just remember how he lost his voice after a day in the crate.) Which reminds me, then you may end up with your neighbors complaining about his barking and whining, just like your fiance's brother already does.

Then you can look for a dog that is already house trained, there are lots of them at your local shelter or on Petfinder.com.
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You and Max are in a tough situation, here. It sounds like your fiance hasn't really bonded with Max, and that his expectations of him are totally unrealistic. Has he ever successfully house trained a toy dog? Terriers are tough little customers sometimes, totally unlike other breeds.

If you want to learn how to train Max, PLEASE listen to the folks on this board who have actually been successful. They know what they are talking about. Crates are not cruel unless they are used to excess and the dog is confined all of the time. Crate training takes advantage of a dog's natural instinct not to soil the area where they sleep, and are only a temporary tool until the dog recognizes that the whole house is their den. Try the crate again, but for a very short period of time, say 1 hour, then take Max outside. Don't start out crate training him by leaving him in there all day. He won't understand that he only needs to hold it for awhile, and will go ahead and relieve himself in the crate because he doesn't know that you'll be back soon to let him out.

This is going to sound a harsh, but if you can't get Max trained before you have to start leaving him during the day, then you should seriously consider surrendering him to a reliable rescue. They will find him someone who will either tolerate his accidents or will use one of the tried and true methods to get him trained. Otherwise, Max is going to be a constant source of friction in your relationship with your fiance and with other members of your household (the brother) and you and Max will both be miserable. I know you are devoted to Max and are cringing at my suggestion, but you have to be realistic about the situation. Tossing a tiny dog outside to live permanently because of an owner's ineffective approach to house training is inhumane, and I know you love Max much too much to ever be cruel to him. Tiny dogs do not have enough body mass to tolerate extremes in either hot or cold weather, their coats are thin and get matted easily when they are not groomed regularly. They can escape through fences, their necks are too fragile to tolerate being tethered, and they are too small to defend themselves from any neighborhood dog (or even cat) who wanders into their yard if they are left outside unattended. You got Max to be your companion, and that is what he wants to be, too. He would die of a broken heart if he was left outside all day by himself. (Just remember how he lost his voice after a day in the crate.) Which reminds me, then you may end up with your neighbors complaining about his barking and whining, just like your fiance's brother already does.

Then you can look for a dog that is already house trained, there are lots of them at your local shelter or on Petfinder.com.

I think I have him potty trained!!!! He hasn't went potty in the house since 4 days before I posted my first post. I could never get rid of my little Max but I'd also never let my fiance make him stay outside. I've seen what the weather can do to a small dog outside and I'm not going through that. I am very attached to Max. He's like my son, as I do not have any kids. I don't have a job yet and I've talked it over with my fiance and he seems a lil less harsh on him lately. He said that we would cross that bridge when it gets here. He does love max they cuddle and Max goes from him to me all night. I'm hoping my fiance is just saying those things but really doesn't mean them. though like I said I would not let him live outside. lol Max is doing really well on the leash. He's been telling me when he needs to go which is not as often as I first thought. I think once I get a job I'm going to make sure my hours are kinda opposite my fiance so my little Max wont be home too long by himself.
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I think I have him potty trained!!!! He hasn't went potty in the house since 4 days before I posted my first post. I could never get rid of my little Max but I'd also never let my fiance make him stay outside. I've seen what the weather can do to a small dog outside and I'm not going through that. I am very attached to Max. He's like my son, as I do not have any kids. I don't have a job yet and I've talked it over with my fiance and he seems a lil less harsh on him lately. He said that we would cross that bridge when it gets here. He does love max they cuddle and Max goes from him to me all night. I'm hoping my fiance is just saying those things but really doesn't mean them. though like I said I would not let him live outside. lol Max is doing really well on the leash. He's been telling me when he needs to go which is not as often as I first thought. I think once I get a job I'm going to make sure my hours are kinda opposite my fiance so my little Max wont be home too long by himself.
What wonderful news that Max is getting it. Congratulations to you for your success!!! Our little Yorkies are smart, but often stubborn. We just have to prove to them that we're not going to give up and eventually they'll cooperate.


Good for you and for little MAX!!!
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