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06-14-2009, 06:59 PM | #1 |
YT Addict Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Shelby Twp, MI
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| Pulling on leash during walks I'm trying to train JoJo to walk beside me with a slack leash, but I'm failing miserably. He loves to sniff and explore and wants to run up to trees to "mark" them. I've tried the stopping method, where I wait until I have his attention, reward him and continue, but shortly after he's pulling again. I really want to get this down, as I want our walks to be enjoyable for both of us. I use a harness because of the fear of a collapsed trachea, but I read that harnesses are very ineffective for dogs who pull, and I'm wondering if that's part of the problem. Any advice? |
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06-14-2009, 07:35 PM | #2 |
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| You could probably get one of the front-pull harnesses. I think Chattiesmom offers them && says they are good for training??? I am not sure, but you could ask her?
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06-14-2009, 07:46 PM | #3 |
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| I have the same problem so I'm watching this thread with interest
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06-14-2009, 11:38 PM | #4 |
Thor's Human Donating Member | From what I understand, they use harnesses on bloodhounds. So yes, they are designed to give the dog maximum leverage to pull humans behind them. There are some good tips in this thread (some of them from me. ) http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/tra...t-working.html
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06-14-2009, 11:53 PM | #5 |
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| Leash Pullers I've been reading about the leashes made by Chattiesmom too, and I've decided that I'm going to get one come next month's payday. I've been trying out the theory on that, by hooking up Riley's leash in the front of his harness, where the 3 straps are joined by a ring. It WORKS for Riley!!! Being that the leash hook rests on Riley's body as it is now, it can't be all that comfortable for him, but having the leash hooked up to his harness in the front has made a remarkable, INSTANT change in the way Riley walks on his leash, and it does keep his attention too. He's much more cooperative. Now, I just have to decide on the color I want him to have....decisions, decisions! Last edited by azureblue54; 06-14-2009 at 11:55 PM. |
06-15-2009, 12:21 AM | #6 |
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| I'm a relatively new mommy. We've had both extremes. Sitting stubbornly at the end of a leash and or jetting off until the leash runs out and yanks her to a stop, (we used a soft neoprene vest harness that made me feel safe w/that). Somewhere hear I read that Cesar guy said keep the leash short and gently tug in direction you want to head in. And do not use treats as a bribe. I wonder if you kept your leash short and walking metered? This worked for me. "Good Walk"... Also -- I've been told that Cesar's books help a lot on this topic and delivers a dog by your side. I was also told to never say "Good girl" but to be specific, not to over-talk to Boo and confuse her. What I have found works: The first few (25 or so) walks i really had to give Boo time to get into it. No such thing as 10 minutes walks. And she was fascinated by every smell, every blade of grass. Took a long time for short distance. All or nothing, 0-10, not much in middle. When she pulled forcefully, I took up slack, closed the gap and kinda forced her to slow her walk down, again gently but firmly, The more she pulled the more we slowly closed up the gap w/retractable leash. Again - slowly. Once she was walking forward, (still trying to pull but slowed down a bit) we say "Good walk" (even thought it wasn't the best :-)) so she gets that this is the type of walk that makes us happy. Week Three: Now she trots happily right next to me or a bit in front of me. We give her much more leash and retract when we need to redirect her. She doesn't fight or resist any more and really loves her walks now. We have 2 commands. When i want her to come back next to me, or off a lawn, the curb etc. we say "Sidewalk" w/tad of command tone, and I shorten the leash and sorta steer. The slight tug sensation (Really Slight but firm - sucking up slack) works, then lotsa of "Good Sidewalk" praise. If she is just a lump on end of the rope, i ask "Pick up"? and extend forearm. If she wants to be picked up she crawls up my arm. Usually that's when she is tired. Then more praise "Good Pick up", instead of just picking her up when i got frustrated, I either ask her or tell her and wait until she digests we are doign a pick up. Now - if we head out for walk and she's a spaz, I head for space and let her burn it off for a few minutes.
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06-15-2009, 08:42 AM | #7 |
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| The previous post had some good points But walking with a dog you have to show who is walking who If you want your dog to stop pulling ..... stop walking when he stops and waits for you then and only then do you walk Yorkies are very active inquisitive guys and they will tend to pull to check things out If you Calmly walk and do not Pull Back ... because this makes the dog think ... hey, this is what walking feels like they will walk more calmly with you
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06-15-2009, 10:44 AM | #8 |
Action Jackson ♥ Donating Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Maryland
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| Well, for starters, I use the Premier Easy Walk harness. It works wonders! http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/tra...t-working.html You can see a video I posted of Jackson in that thread. It's a harness but it attaches on the FRONT, so it's the same concept as loose leash walking on a collar. When Jackson had the one on his back, it made him pull. I guess it brought out the sled dog in him, lol. Second, for training, you're going to look ridiculous but to get your dog to follow you practice in your yard or a field where you have the leash on him and you run in circles, and run in different directions, and go every which way so he's like "HUH?!" and has to follow you. It's very tiring to the dog and it lets him know he needs to follow you!
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06-15-2009, 12:06 PM | #9 |
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| I have had a pulling issue as well. I have 2 yorkies which makes it even more interesting! My yorkies have Tuff Lock harnesses, but I don't particularly love them since they seem to turn quite a bit. I train them separate, but also together, since we go on most of our walks together. I started using the word "Back" instead of "heel" & it actually works for me. I'm still training them so they need some reminders, but here's what I do: Start walking, and if they pull like mad-dogs, I stop and say "No Pull". Once they come back by me, we start going, and if they pull again, I repeat "No Pull" - they have to come back to me on their own or we don't move. After we're walking, if they creep up & start going ahead of me, I say "Back" and stick out my leg across from me (like a sideways kick, but of course, not a kick, just very gently swing out so it bumps them if they don't go back). I'm sure I look like a crazy person, but this has been helping me. I say back, and if they don't listen, out of leg goes (the leash is sinched up at that time as well). I try the turn-around-the-other-way thing, but either I don't have the patience or it just isn't working (I'm guessing it's the first one). And, of course, when there's another dog nearby, their listening skills are non-existent so I'm still working on that too!
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06-15-2009, 10:58 PM | #10 |
YT Addict Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Shelby Twp, MI
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| Everyone gave wonderful tips and advice. I'm going to start implementing some of these suggestions to hopefully see if they help. The front-pull harness sounds like a great idea. The harness I use has a ring in the front of the chest, so I'll use that for now to see if it's effective, before I invest in a new one. This is my 4th one! Keeping my fingers crossed! |
06-21-2009, 02:12 PM | #11 |
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| I got the gentle leader head collar for my pup and saw instant improvement within the first 10 minutes. it's amazing, she walks beside me now! it's not as easy as the harness to put on, but I find she still acts out on walks with the harness. so i definitely recommend it. |
06-21-2009, 03:22 PM | #12 | |
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06-21-2009, 03:34 PM | #13 |
Action Jackson ♥ Donating Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Maryland
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| Just Google "Premier Easy Walk Harness"
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06-21-2009, 03:36 PM | #14 |
Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Fall River, MA
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| Gentle Leader w/ Plastic Clip Buckle, Petite - Dog Supplies I started using the Gentle Leader because Sasha pulls like mad and she slips out of every harness I put her in. However, if you get it be prepared for some spastic antics at first. Sasha still occasionally goes ballistic over it usually when we are not moving and she has an opportunity to try and push it off... On the other hand, it works for actual walks. |
06-30-2009, 06:16 PM | #15 |
Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Osage Beach, Missouri
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| I have two dogs I adopted from shelters. The first dog was a dream dog! He was leash trained and almost house trained. My new dog, however, is a different story. Very calm spirit and sweet but as soon as the leash goes on is whole body goes down. He seems extremely reluctant when it comes to the leash. Can someone help? |
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