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06-06-2009, 08:12 AM | #1 |
Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Arkansas
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| DH (and I) can not take much more of this potty business!! We have praised, we have scoulded, we crate her, we used pads, we use word association............she will stand outside the door and bark to be let in and do her business 2 feet from the door b/c she couldn't hold it long enough to run to her favorite hiding spots!!!!!!! She will stay in the bathroom while I'm at work and do nothing....but give her chance when no one is looking and WHAM-O! Our carpet is less than 2 years old and is a mess! I have children, there are health issues here. She PREFERS the house people!!! We have informed the kids, if she can't be broken soon she will have to go. I really wanted a Yorkie, knew they were hard to break---but this goes beyond anything I could have imagined. I can't even truly "bond" with her b/c it is so frustrating. If you walk to the back of the house, and there's poo, she puts her head down. So you can't tell me she doesn't realize she's doing wrong....but she doesn't care enough to not risk it. HELP!! She is 6 months old and very healthy. What can I do that truly works and QUICK!!!! :cr y: |
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06-06-2009, 09:06 AM | #2 | |
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06-06-2009, 09:09 AM | #3 |
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| She knows she's upsetting you, not that she's "doing wrong" Nothing will work "quick" as she is 6 months old. She may not be fully trained until she is 8-12 months old, especially since she has so many bad habits already. Why are you using pads if you want her to go outside? It doesn't really work both ways. If you want her to go on pads, you have to teach her to use the pads and not just the floor and she will learn it's OK to go in the house. If you want to teach her it's only OK to go outside then don't try to use pads. You can't let her out of a pen/room she's been in all day and obviously not gone - first you need to take her RIGHT outside, carry her out, and walk her until she goes. You have to go outside WITH her and give her a treat for going potty (choose a word, like hurry up, to teach her to do it on a cue) Try bell training her so that she can ask to go out. She has no idea where the proper place to go is, and she is probably afraid of going in front of you which is why she has hiding spots. If you are crating her when not watching her, then why is she going on the carpet? (Crate training means a period of time in the crate 30-60 minutes or when you can't watch her, like when you are cooking dinner... then a potty break and when she goes she gets freedom, if she doesn't go she goes BACK in the crate. The whole point is to prevent accidents) If she goes right in front of you when you are watching her, then whisk her outside immediately. Try keeping her on a leash you tie to your belt to make it easier to catch her. Do you feed her on a schedule? If so, she should poop on a schedule. Walking will almost always result in a BM if she has just eaten. She's only 6 months old. She's only just started to get a signal from her body before she needs to go. Before 4-5 months old they are like infants, they do not know when they need to go ahead of time and it's up to you to make sure she is in the right place at the right time and there will be accidents. Now that she is a little older she should start improving with your guidance. I would suggest you spend $80 on a steam cleaner, we have a Bissell Quicksteamer, and clean up right away with Simple Solution carpet cleaner and follow up with the steam cleaner. If you get the smell out of the carpet she will be less likely to go. Cut off her access to her "favorite" spots - close the door, put a dog bed there, etc. Make sure the kids understand she needs to go out on a schedule, every 1-2 hours, and she needs to be supervised to make sure she does not come back in until empty. Give her a treat immediately when she goes, while still outside. Simply letting her out in the backyard will not train her, you have to go outside with her. Draw up a poster board and make the kids sign off on her schedule every hour. If she doesn't have accidents, set it for 1.5 hours, then 2 hours... I know it's frustrating, but it's not fair to give up on a 6 month old because "Yorkies are hard to housetrain" I have two that are trained. You have to work with them and teach them and make small exceptions for their small bladders, like making sure they go out more often than a big dog, but it's possible and you adjust to the routine. If the kids are old enough to help out, even better! Good luck! |
06-06-2009, 09:20 AM | #4 |
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| As others have said, it does take a while. She may even be really good and then bam she will regress. At 6 months old, she should NOT have have free run of the house. You need to get baby gates and expens to contain her area. She should always be in the same room as you to watch her and watch her signs of needing to do potty. If you are training her to go outside, then you need to take her out every 1/2 hour. You need to praise her when she goes and give a yummy treat reward for good potty behavior. I use Peanut Butter Chips from the baking isle. They are small and effective and are ONLY used for good potty. Inside, my dogs are pee pad training. I have throw rugs that YES have been peed and pooped on. So I bought the dog litter boxes and put the pee pads inside, so there was a difference between rugs and pee pads, the had to *step into* the box to pee and poop. I have a boy, and he began to pee on the side of the box, so I now have the www.doggiepotty.com ~ It is fake dog turf, and you put the pee pad under the grass. This may be good for you, as you are also training her to go outside on grass. The key to potty training is keeping to the same route, not allowing free run of the house (mine didn't get free run until they were 1.5 yrs), praise and a yummy potty treat, ignore bad potty - just clean it up. It will happen, but you also have to stick to it and put your own efforts into it. |
06-06-2009, 09:36 AM | #5 |
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| Lots of good advice has been given, so I'll just add a bit. Sounds like she's developed some bad habits and like you've tried a lot of different things. But the key to potty training is consistency over time. Read the good advice given here, check out the numerous threads on this subject, then choose a method and stick to it. There is no quick fix. Good luck!
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06-06-2009, 10:08 AM | #6 |
Donating YT 500 Club Member | Do you have friends/family who have housetrained dogs who could bring them over for a play date & stay long enough for the visiting dogs to pee/poop in the back yard? Dogs can learn well from other dogs. I'd leave any poop remains for a couple days & make sure she smells it a few times to help make the connection in her little brain. Do you have a daycare nearby that would take her for a whole or half day for a few days? Roxy was having a hard time 'getting it' until I took her to daycare. She didn't even go outside the first day there. The second day she did. After that she started going outside to do her duty almost every time. In case we messed up during chilly days & didn't have the door open, her pee pad is still in place by the door & she uses it. She has not appeared to be confused with the pee pad option & outdoors. Praise & treats! Also, we put a small doggie door in the slider screen door. It didn't take but 2-3 days to train her to use it. Now she thinks she's a real hot shot using her own door. She will even wait until I close the door after going out so she can go out her own door. She rarely uses the pee pad anymore.
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06-06-2009, 10:09 AM | #7 |
Thor's Human Donating Member | Please do not give up on your yorkie because of house training. You will be missing out on 15 years of joy because of nine months of let's be honest here, tiny potties. Potty training CAN be maddening, it's understandable that you are frustrated. Please keep your dog's perspective in mind, though. Clearly she does not understand everything that's going on, otherwise there is no way she would risk losing her family over her bathroom habits. Dogs can prefer to go inside for the same reasons we do: it's more comfortable, and you have privacy. ALSO, dogs can absolutely understand that potties on the floor get the humans upset, but NOT connect that with their own bathroom functions. It's extremely common. You've already gotten a lot of good advice here. Make sure you clean up accidents with an enzyme cleaner and restrict her access to her favorite potty areas. You can also put her food there, that will make her more reluctant to toilet there. Finally, and I know this is hard, remember that every accident in the house is actually your fault, because it means you either need to restrict her movement more, or watch her more closely. I have been potty training an adult yorkie for several months now, and I had no idea how hard it would be. I had a couple weeks where I got almost nothing done because I was watching him so closely. BUT after that, it clicked. He's had one accident in the past two months. It also helps to have a delicious treat that she ONLY gets for good potties. When she goes in the right place, praise her lavishly and break out her special treat.
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06-06-2009, 10:20 AM | #8 |
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| Agree on all of the above posts, no further advice from me.
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06-06-2009, 10:29 AM | #9 |
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| I'd advise, after every meal, to take her out on a leash & stand there with her for 10 minutes, if she potties, give her a treat. If she does not potty take her in the house put her in her crate for 15 minutes then back out with the leash. If you are putting her out there by her self, she doesn't know what you want her to do. |
06-06-2009, 03:46 PM | #10 |
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| Potty Training I have a year old male who still has to go out often, at least during the day. He is both inside and outside trained, but he prefers to go outside because he loves to sniff around. I have never reprimanded him when he makes a mistake, only praised him when he has done good. I know when he makes a mistake, in my eyes, not his, that it is my fault for not paying more attention to what he is trying to tell me. He will usually scratch on the door when he has to go out, but if I don't take him out right away, he will go and use his papers. |
06-06-2009, 04:20 PM | #11 |
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| hi there. please dont give up on her, at this young age she is still learning i had the same problem with my king charles but at around 8/10 months she learned pretty quick! as soon as she goes in the house take her outdoors! and say the keyword , wotever word you use when you want her to go potty, i use pee pee and molly almost goes on que! repeat!repeat!repeat!and she will get it! and praise ALOT! when she goes outdoors. i know alot of people dont agree with pads and outdoors but when i work through the day molly uses the pads, because i taught her when i brought her home that if she needs to go indoors this is the pace to go! (by putting her on the pad and saying pee pee! as if letting her know this is where i want you to go! i find both work for me. and i take her outdoors at the same time everyday! and use the keyword.and alot of praise! i feed her at the same time everyday too so i know before she does when she is going to go! give or take 20 mins after a meal. be persistant with this and it should turn things around for you. after a long walk or alot of exersise usually comes a poo.. or around 20 mins after feeding time. another thing. if u are going to use the pee pads and outside be sure to put her on the pee pad indoors after any accident! if u shout whilste peeing. this can cause her to go hide and do her buisness! goodluck!
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06-06-2009, 04:26 PM | #12 |
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| Its a long long hard road , my puppy is 6 months and pretty much potty trained.... but I am home all day with no other children so its just been the two of us till my youngest gets home from school , but I still get up at 2 am to do outside potty and I take her outside WITH ME every hour or two , praise and treat and say HURRY UP.. now I can just make her pretty much go on command If i say hurry up she pees or poops... it really really is alot of HARD consistant work. If she has an accident it is usally my fault because I didnt see the signs of her wanting to go out.. Hang in there she will get it one of these days.. try boiled chicken it does work !! PS you can send her to me
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06-06-2009, 07:35 PM | #13 |
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| I agree with the others! I hope you don't give up on her too soon. I know when I have a litter of puppies and mine when they were little. I would go outside with them and just walk around the yard. The little ones will always follow and if you walk or stand outside with her she will eventually go. Good luck!
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06-06-2009, 07:46 PM | #14 |
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| Don't give up on her!! My Baron is 18 M.o. and I've had him for 1 year. He is about 90% Housebroken. He's still not allowed free run of the house. When he makes a mistake I just clean it up. When he goes outside or on the puppy pad I praise him. He goes for days doing good and then messes up. Then we start over. They're hard to train, But, I would not ever give up on him. He'll get it sooner or later...
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06-06-2009, 07:59 PM | #15 |
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| Sounds like my Golden Retreiver Just to encourage you....I had a female Golden who is passed away now, but, she was so smart and was easy to train in everything, except housebreaking. I finally broke down and called a dog training school. They told me she was smarter than me and of course she'd rather go in the house. They told me to keep a leash on her and keep her by me all day long, never letting her off the leash and to take her outside when she gave any signs she needed to go potty. I did that for WEEKS until she figured out I was not going to let her sneak off and find a place in the house. It finally worked. It was frustrating having her on the leash but it did finally convince her she was not going to win. They are worth the effort and the rewards are beyond description. As my husband puts it "they enrich our lives". Good luck! |
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