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Old 08-20-2005, 07:09 AM   #1
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My biggest fear is that my pup will sneak out when someone opens the door.

What is the best way to teach a dog NOT to do this! Anyone have a step by step I can follow?

The importance of this is right up there with potty training.

I know she can learn, she is very bright....I am just not sure what commands to teach or how to go about this. I want one of those dogs that won't step past the property line (without permission)? How do people teach that???
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The stay command works very well as you are leaving out the door. Eventually she will learn to not run out when the door is opened and wait for your command to say it's ok to go out.

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My biggest fear is that my pup will sneak out when someone opens the door.

What is the best way to teach a dog NOT to do this! Anyone have a step by step I can follow?

The importance of this is right up there with potty training.

I know she can learn, she is very bright....I am just not sure what commands to teach or how to go about this. I want one of those dogs that won't step past the property line (without permission)? How do people teach that???

I just tell Mollie to stay. 99% of the time it works. Once in a while she will get out depends on who's at the door.
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Simon likes to bolt out the door and he doesn't stay 100% of the time so I have put up a baby gate in the entryway. I don'tknow if that is an option but I have noticed now that if I ever take that gate down he won't go past where it was.
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first keep her on a leash. make sure she knows stay first. have someone (hubby, friend, kids etc.) go out the door and come back in, if she gets up to run out pull her back and have her sit. as soon as she just sits there go CRAZY with praise. thats what worked for me, good luck!
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Simon likes to bolt out the door and he doesn't stay 100% of the time so I have put up a baby gate in the entryway. I don'tknow if that is an option but I have noticed now that if I ever take that gate down he won't go past where it was.
Rudy must be Simon's brother, because if the door is open he is out it. I have put a gate up too and if the gate is down I don't open the door unless I am holding Rudy. Maddie and Polly will stay and only go if I say come on. Rudy will be two in Nov, thought he would have got better, but it just goes to show ya how different there personalities are, because they have all been raised the same.
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toby used to do this too........ but i have found that if i yell "NO" then he freezes in his tracks (lol....... poor guy does it even if i yell no at the cat). Now we can have people come in and out and he goes to greet them but he NEVER runs out the door anymore, he doesnt want a "no bad dog" yelled at him
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I would work with her using Megan's suggestions. Put her on a leash and have her sit and stay while people go in and out the door. Also it may be good to have a certain command for when she gets to go out. Like say "Let's go out" when you are taking or letting her out (every time) that way she will know that if she doesn't hear this it isn't her turn to go out. However until you feel comfortable with her not going out a baby gate will keep her from sneaking out like everyone else said. Its also a good idea to teach her to walk out the door instead of bolting out. Keep her on a leash and have her walk out not run, praise her when she walks out and turn around and do it again if she runs. Also after you get these down go outside and teach her a command to go back inside when you tell her. Again put her on a leash and tell her to go to the door and take her up there if she doesn't go by herself. Remember plenty of praise is key.

I have a lab who will sit and wait inside his fence until you tell him he can come out (when the gate is opened) and then he walks out. Also if you tell him "in your pen" he'll head back that way, he isn't happy about it but he does it. So with patience it can be done. Trust me I'm not a dog trainer so if I can do it you can too.
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I agree with all the great advise but thought this is always good to remember especially with impulsive yorkies....it's crossposted and very sad but happens far too often

Trust - A Deadly Disease
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There is a deadly disease stalking your dog, a hideous, stealthy thing just waiting its chance to steal your beloved friend. It is not a new disease, or one for which there are inoculations. The disease is called "Trust". You knew before you ever took your puppy home that it could not be trusted.
The breeder, who provided you with this precious animal warned you, drummed it into your head.

Puppies steal off counters, destroy anything expensive, chase cats, take forever to house train, and must never be allowed off lead!!

When the big day finally arrived, heeding the sage advice of the breeder, you escorted your puppy to his new home, properly collared and tagged, the lead held tightly in your hand.

At home the house was "puppy-proofed". Everything of value was stored in the spare bedroom, garbage stowed on top of the refrigerator, cats separated, and a gate placed across the living room to keep at least one part of the house puddle free. All windows and doors had been properly secured, and signs placed in all strategic points reminding all to "Close the door!"

Soon it becomes second nature to make sure the door closes nine tenths of a second after it was opened and that it is really latched. "Don't let the dog out" is your second most verbalized expression. (The first is "No!") You worry and fuss constantly, terrified that your darling will get out and disaster will surely follow. Your friends comment about whom you love most, your family or the dog. You know that to relax your vigil for moment might lose him to you forever.

And so the weeks and months pass, with your puppy becoming more civilized every day, and the seeds of trust are planted. It seems that each new day brings less destruction, less breakage. Almost before you know it, your gangly, slurpy puppy has turned into an elegant, dignified friend.

Now that he is a more reliable, sedate companion, you take him more places. At this point you are beginning to become infected, the disease is spreading its roots deep into your mind.

And then one of your friends suggest obedience classes, and, after a time you even let him run loose from the car into the house when you get home. Why not, he always runs straight to the door, dancing a frenzy of joy and waits to be let in. And, remember he comes every time he is called. You know he is the exception that disproves the rule. (And sometimes late at night, you even let him slip out the front door to go potty and then right back in.)

Year’s pass- it is hard to remember why you ever worried so much when he was a puppy. He would never think of running out the door left open while you bring in the packages from the car. It would be beneath his dignity to jump out the window of the car while you run into the convenience store. And when you take him for those wonderful long walks at dawn, it only takes one whistle to send him racing back to you in a burst of speed when the walk comes too close to the highway. (He still gets in the trash, but nobody is perfect!)

This is the time the disease has waited for so patiently. Sometimes it only has to wait a year or two, but often it takes much longer.

He spies the neighbor’s dog across the street, and suddenly forgets everything he ever knew about not slipping out doors, jumping out windows or coming when called due to traffic. Perhaps it was only a paper fluttering in the breeze, or even just the sheer joy of running...

Stopped in an instant. Stilled forever- your heart is broken at the sight of his still beautiful body.

The disease is trust.

The final outcome ....hit by a car.


NOTE: Every morning my dog bounced around off lead exploring. Every morning for seven years he came back when he was called. He was perfectly obedient, perfectly trustworthy. He died fourteen hours after being hit by a car. Please do not risk your friend and your heart. Save the trust for things that do not matter.

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ooops...forgot to add GOOD luck ~ I didn't want to depress anyone - but that post above just grabbed me when I read it....the ending was not what I expected.
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first keep her on a leash. make sure she knows stay first. have someone (hubby, friend, kids etc.) go out the door and come back in, if she gets up to run out pull her back and have her sit. as soon as she just sits there go CRAZY with praise. thats what worked for me, good luck!
That is a good idea! Thanks!
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Thank you everyone for great suggestions AND reminders. I love this little dog so much I have to teach her as much as I can that will help keep her safe.
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Come and stay are the two most important commands to teach a dog. They are absolutely necessary for their safety. There arelot so f good dog training sites on the internet that teach step by step how to teach both those behaviors and it is never too early or too late to start teaching them.
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We had the same problem with Gracie. A couple of times when I was going out the door, I would say "Back" like I was the big boss. For whatever reason...she would back up and stay. Now every time anyone comes in or goes out, we just say BACK and she backs up and does not try to run out. I have no idea why she listened and understood this command when she would never listen to my STAY command. She got out a couple of times before and ran all over the neighborhood with me chasing her and my husband in the car trying to catch her. I would not trust her outside with out a leash for anything, but she is doing well with the BACK command.
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Gidget used to bolt out the door then I was reading that the door hittng them on there nose was a way to keep them in (the book didnt mean like hitting them with the door but having it tap (touch) their nose) we have a screen door and I would open it and tell her to "stay" and when she went to start walking out I closed the door to tap her nose. we did this a few times (maybe 5 or so) and then walked away from it...when I went out the next time I walked out the door facing the inside (I always go out butt first to keep her in sight...she is just too quick) anyhow I walked out and told her "stay, stay" and she did....of course now she does donuts at the door when you go out but she stays in the house and wont go out till the door is open for a period of time and you tell her come on...... I dont know if it would work for every pup but it worked well with her.
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