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Old 10-29-2008, 06:25 PM   #1
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Angry I am frustrated beyond frustrated!!!!

Ok here I am 7 dogs later...never ever had a problem with crate training...which i still don't think i do...it is Kioko...all Kioko...i mean i take them out to potty pretty often...he doesn't have a problem peeing outside...but it seems like he holds his poop in until he comes back in...and put inside his crate when i am not able to supervise....it is driving me nuts..


and to make matter worse he then steps all over it...lays in it...and whatever else he does...any other would and if they happen to have an accident would do be laying, sitting and/or stepping on away from it...argh!!!


no other has ever done this...and if they did they got over it...he is 10 months now and it seems to be getting worse...i am having to spray out and down his kennel everyday how many times a day...i don't know what to do anymore...

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Does he poop about the same time every day? Do you go out with him or just let them run and play?
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Did you get him from a pet store? That is a problem with dogs from pet stores because they were kept in crates or cages. Try feeding him in his crate for a couple of days - at least a week. He may come to see the crate as his place for food rewards and dogs don't like to use the bathroom where they each. Good luck! Keep us posted on how it goes
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Did you get him from a pet store? That is a problem with dogs from pet stores because they were kept in crates or cages. Try feeding him in his crate for a couple of days - at least a week. He may come to see the crate as his place for food rewards and dogs don't like to use the bathroom where they each. Good luck! Keep us posted on how it goes
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annabella did that.. I took her food away from her early evening so she did not have to poop in the night.. but I was always around so she did not have to be crated by day...unless I went out and had an x pen for her.. I am sure he will grow out of it..
I did not have that problem once.. but pepsie would poop on the floor and then ask to go outside.. did that for over a year before he got it straight.. I just picked it up like a good mom and he came around..
but cleaning the crate that often would drive any good mom crazy.. hope some one has something good to tell you... anne
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Does he poop about the same time every day? Do you go out with him or just let them run and play?
i go out with all off them on a leash...i let them know that when going outside it means to do their business...which the other don't have a problem with...Kioko on the hand does not seem to get it and it is driving me nuts!
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Did you get him from a pet store? That is a problem with dogs from pet stores because they were kept in crates or cages. Try feeding him in his crate for a couple of days - at least a week. He may come to see the crate as his place for food rewards and dogs don't like to use the bathroom where they each. Good luck! Keep us posted on how it goes
No I got him from a breeder down in TX..I went to their home and visited...he however was the runt...i don't know if that has something to do with it or not...

The only dog i ever got at a petstore was a toy poodle an ex bought for me...but that was 10 years ago....and from my experience with her i vow to never purchased from a petstore again...

And as far as feeding goes...that is where they all get feed...inside their crate. Until they are potty trained. Thanks.
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annabella did that.. I took her food away from her early evening so she did not have to poop in the night.. but I was always around so she did not have to be crated by day...unless I went out and had an x pen for her.. I am sure he will grow out of it..
I did not have that problem once.. but pepsie would poop on the floor and then ask to go outside.. did that for over a year before he got it straight.. I just picked it up like a good mom and he came around..
but cleaning the crate that often would drive any good mom crazy.. hope some one has something good to tell you... anne
girl you just just don't how frustrating it is....it just seems like he purposely wait to come in and be let into his crate so he can poop...i don't know what is going on with him...
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I know how frustrating it can be. TJ would poop on the rug under the table if I didn't watch him, when he was tiny. It took lots of patience. Reward him and make a huge deal of it, when he poops outside. Maybe he is one that takes a long time to get the urge to poop. Good luck to you and your baby.
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I know how frustrating it can be. TJ would poop on the rug under the table if I didn't watch him, when he was tiny. It took lots of patience. Reward him and make a huge deal of it, when he poops outside. Maybe he is one that takes a long time to get the urge to poop. Good luck to you and your baby.
he doesn't even try...i sit there and wait them for an hour at a time...he would go up to Yoshi or MeiLing when they are pooping and sniff it while they are doing it...then once they are done they run around and chase each other...

all he cares about is seeing what MeiLing or Yoshi is doing...they are used to stay in a crate together but i learn to never do that anymore...because if i had to take Yoshi and/or MeiLing to the vet or something....Kioko would cry like he is being killed...i mean it gets old pretty quick...
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Oh you poor thing! My girlfriend got two yorkie puppies WAY TOO YOUNG and tiny (she wouldn't listen to me ) and her little girl did the same thing- she would take her outside for 30-40 minutes and the second she brought her in, she would poo in either the kennel or x-pen, and then get it all over her.

She finally got better about it but I don't think she's completely trained yet. I don't even know what I would do, well, I do know I would be super skinny because I would be throwing up everytime I had to clean out the kennel.

I wish I had better advice for you! On the bright side of things, at least it's only ONE of them who's doing it! It could be five out of six

What if you took him outside by himself and totally ignored him until he did his business? Then make a huge deal? I really don't have any other ideas.
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Oh you poor thing! My girlfriend got two yorkie puppies WAY TOO YOUNG and tiny (she wouldn't listen to me ) and her little girl did the same thing- she would take her outside for 30-40 minutes and the second she brought her in, she would poo in either the kennel or x-pen, and then get it all over her.

She finally got better about it but I don't think she's completely trained yet. I don't even know what I would do, well, I do know I would be super skinny because I would be throwing up everytime I had to clean out the kennel.

I wish I had better advice for you! On the bright side of things, at least it's only ONE of them who's doing it! It could be five out of six

What if you took him outside by himself and totally ignored him until he did his business? Then make a huge deal? I really don't have any other ideas.
true but my 3 oldest (9 year old male Maltese, 5 year old female maltese and 3 year old is 99.9% trained) and Yoshi who is 19 months old and MeiLing who is 11 months old is 90% trained...then there is Kioko who takes 1 step forward and 10 steps back...argh!

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he doesn't even try...i sit there and wait them for an hour at a time...he would go up to Yoshi or MeiLing when they are pooping and sniff it while they are doing it...then once they are done they run around and chase each other...

all he cares about is seeing what MeiLing or Yoshi is doing...they are used to stay in a crate together but i learn to never do that anymore...because if i had to take Yoshi and/or MeiLing to the vet or something....Kioko would cry like he is being killed...i mean it gets old pretty quick...

I can see where it would. I wish I could tell you something to help you with this baby. It sounds like you are doing everything you can think of. Hopefully he will figure it out. Good luck.
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Ok here I am 7 dogs later...never ever had a problem with crate training...which i still don't think i do...it is Kioko...all Kioko...i mean i take them out to potty pretty often...he doesn't have a problem peeing outside...but it seems like he holds his poop in until he comes back in...and put inside his crate when i am not able to supervise....it is driving me nuts..


and to make matter worse he then steps all over it...lays in it...and whatever else he does...any other would and if they happen to have an accident would do be laying, sitting and/or stepping on away from it...argh!!!


no other has ever done this...and if they did they got over it...he is 10 months now and it seems to be getting worse...i am having to spray out and down his kennel everyday how many times a day...i don't know what to do anymore...

PLEASE HELP!!!
Smokey does the SAME thing... except we can't even get him to pee outside either. He is impossible! We've been trying for the past year and he just won't get it. Then, like your Kioko, Smokey steps all in it and gets it everywhere. I know I'm not much help, but Smokey is 1.5 years old and still doing it... *sigh*
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Smokey does the SAME thing... except we can't even get him to pee outside either. He is impossible! We've been trying for the past year and he just won't get it. Then, like your Kioko, Smokey steps all in it and gets it everywhere. I know I'm not much help, but Smokey is 1.5 years old and still doing it... *sigh*
i can understand your frustration....because i am dealing with it now...its one thing for me to have accidents in there...but then to lay, walk step and sit in it...drives me crazy...

if yoshi had an accident...i can find him on the other side of the small crate...leaning against the wall of the crate not wanting to get it all over him...

but with kioko..he does it by the opening of the crate...sits in it and whatever else he does with it...
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