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08-06-2008, 05:23 PM | #1 |
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| Aggressive Biting! So I'm new to this site and to owning a Yorkie as well so I thought I'd ask for some advice... Chica is about 9 weeks old, still a baby I know, but every time I try to groom her or trim her nails or even touch her face she bites and growls and then freaks out. I have scratches all up and down my arms from her. I've tried the water bottle and it works sometimes, but only sometimes. I'm good friends with the breeder so I took her there to continue her vaccinations and get a haircut. Whenever the breeder would touch Chica she would try and bite her too and the breeder said she was spoiled. I don't have any idea how to make her less spoiled without feeling like I'm being mean... If anyone has any ideas about training or disciplining, I would love to hear them! I need help! |
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08-06-2008, 05:46 PM | #2 | |
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08-06-2008, 06:06 PM | #4 | |
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Flipping a dog on its back is the Alpha Roll. It was started by the Monks of New Skete back in the 70's as a training technique. It's been misused over the years and the Monks finally came out and said that they never intended it to be used by casually by pet owners, but be reserved for only the most severe cases of aggression and then only done by a professional. It is considered outdated and dangerous today. In the wild, the only time a dog is flipped on it's back is by an attacker to who trying to kill him by ripping open his belly. A dog will instinctively fight for this life when flipped on his back. It's a good way to get bitten. Rolling or flipping a dog over on its back will only make it more aggressive. Please read these links: Your Dream Dog » Blog Archive » Never Use an “Alpha Roll” on Your Dog (Trainer Causes Dog’s Death) Alpha Roll - One Mistake When Working With Aggressive Dogs - Thoughts of a Professional Dog Trainer About.com Dogs - Dog Training - Using the Alpha Roll - Alpha Rolling Your Dog It is far more effective to use more modern training techniques like the Nothing in Life is Free program. Nothing in Life is Free Gaining control of your dog humanely | |
08-06-2008, 06:56 PM | #5 | |
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Thanks for the links. I will read them. This Alpha Roll was taught to me by my vet. I assumed I was doing everything right. I'm always open to learning more and modern. Maybe, some of these links will help me with Jersey. She's 17 months old and we've had her from 10 weeks. Never had a problem. All of my Yorkies got along but Jersey has become very aggressive and attacking. I'm desperate. I love her and don't want to part with her but also terrified she will kill one of them. I've placed her up for adoption looking for a home with a semi retired/retired couple with no other pets and older or grown children. I cannot afford $3,000 - $5,000 for a behaviorilist that my vet has reccomended but also said may not help. She's a great dog, 5 lbs. spayed and healthy. I'm just at my wits end and heartbroken at the same time. I'm going to look at the links you posted. Thanks. Elaine | |
08-07-2008, 06:55 PM | #6 |
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| I was also recommended the alpha roll... lately I've been working with Chica daily on sitting down so and getting her used to being groomed. If she starts to bite I grab her by the scruff of her neck and if she whines I spray her with the spray bottle. It's been working fairly well so far... I think I'm also going to look into trying the empty coke can with change in it. |
08-07-2008, 08:05 PM | #7 |
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| you need to hold her until she relaxes, it can take 5-10 minutes, even longer in some situations. you can try to muzzle her if you must, but i dont recomend it, maybe put on a jean jacket to prevent problems on your arms. start slowly with the nail clipping, and finish all the nails, then praise, praise, praise. hair grooming, needs to be done regularly on a yorkie, so you need to work on it. my yorkie hated the brush at first as well. we used a brush that was black with tons of small brisltes on it, and used it, he actually liked it. it doesnt really brush very well, but it can get them accustomed to the motions. |
08-07-2008, 09:57 PM | #8 |
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| For my new girl I found some info on how to help her trust me...this has helped in handling her paws more then when I first got her. Hope this helps with some ideas for you too!! this is just some of the article on Paws Awhile: How to Wash Your Dog - The Right Way "Even the most easy-care dog in the world needs some attention to be paid to her appearance every once in a while – so it’s worth spending a bit of time learning the best techniques for easy, stress-free grooming. The trick is getting your dog to tolerate (and even enjoy!) the process … PREPARING YOUR DOG FOR GROOMING First of all, the absolute most important thing you can do is to accustom your dog to the grooming process. Now, starting this in puppyhood is the ideal way to handle the situation, but of course not all of us have this luxury; if you’ve got an adult dog, you’ll probably need to move a little slower, but you should still start getting her used to being touched and handled all over as soon as you can. As your puppy or dog gets used to the sensation of being rubbed and handled, she’ll slowly come to enjoy it. Dogs are social creatures by instinct, and physical affection and contact is a big part of their lives – it shouldn’t take long before she begins to trust you, and allows herself to get some pleasure out of your touch. All you have to do is start rubbing her slowly all over. Fondle her ears, touch her cheeks and neck, rub her back and belly, pick up her paws and – if she’ll let you – give each one a gentle squeeze (treating and praising her whenever she lets you do this, since paw touching is generally a pretty big deal for most dogs). If she has a tail, rub it between your fingers; get her to roll over on her back so you can rub and stroke her belly and hocks. This might not seem like such a big deal, but it’s actually a really important part of the grooming process: the more your dog enjoys it, the less stressful the whole event will be for both of you, and so the more often you’re likely to groom her – which increases the health benefits for her. KEEP YOURSELF CALM Remember that most dogs have an inherent dislike of being bathed, which can cause anxiety and even outright panic. Your dog takes a lot of her emotional cues from you, so make sure you act like a good role model for the occasion. Reassure your dog frequently, keeping your voice well-modulated, low, and even; keep your movements slow and deliberate; praise her lavishly for good behavior, and give her a couple of treats throughout the process to make it more enjoyable for her. The more she enjoys the process, the easier it’ll be for you!"
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08-08-2008, 08:16 AM | #9 |
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| I have a point to this story so bear with me When we got Pebbles she was a 5 month old rescue who had never been groomed and started to get aggressive too. I took her to Petsmart for her first grooming and she attacked to groomer, growling and snapping. IMO the groomer was a idiot and could have ruined her forever but I learned my lesson. I picked her up in tears thinking I had made a huge mistake. About a week later, I found a groomer that use to breed yorkies and took her there for a grooming. She did ok and I promised to work with her until her next time. What I did was to take it slow. I would put her on the washer with a towel and have treats in my hand and just touch her everywhere, her feet, legs, face, ears, etc. and praise her and treat her. Use something good like cheerios or little pieces of cheese. Do it often maybe a few times a day where you put her up and touch her and maybe clip 1 nail. It worked like magic with Pebbles (formally known as DEVILDOG). Now she is the at the groomer and at home. She will lay on the chair and fall asleep while I do whatever I want to her. We have used the spray bottle when she got really nuts but have not needed it in a very long time.
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