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Old 06-30-2008, 03:07 PM   #1
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Default He's regressed in training.

Peanutt has had his X-Pen in the kitchen forever it seems, or at least since we got him. He's in there all day when we work and all night when we sleep. I guess you could say he lives the large majority of his life there. So, he had gotten pretty good about going on his pad and not the floor. That made it easier for us to clean it up, and there was less smell.

We ripped out the linoleum and put in tile recently, and his pen went to the garage while we did it, so he started staying there. It took 3 weeks from start to finish (MUCH longer than we thought!), and he did VERY well in his pen in the garage!

So then, we moved him back into the kitchen when the floor was finally ready. Now, he's disgusting about it. Urine and feces everywhere, and a terrible smell. He totally regressed!

SO now, we have had to put him back into the garage, because it was too gross for the house!

Is there ANY good reason why he seemingly "lost it" once he came back into the kitchen?? I mean, he's good in the garage. What the heck?
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You say he's been out in the garage for the past three weeks, while you were working on the kitchen, could you tell us a little more what his day is like?
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I'm going to find it interesting to read the advice offered to this OP. I read her other thread with more than passing interest. http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/gen...e-peanutt.html

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Is Peanutt able to go outside to potty at all or is he soley pee pad trained? I'm kind of thinking that maybe some "re-training" and positive reenforcement might help him.
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Is Peanutt able to go outside to potty at all or is he soley pee pad trained? I'm kind of thinking that maybe some "re-training" and positive reenforcement might help him.
I agree. I know personally that Coby doesn't do well with change. He likes a routine. Coby gets confused about things easily so we try to stick with what we teach him. Maybe start from scratch (very frustrating, I know) and see if you can train him to do how he did before. Best of luck to you.
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Does he spend time with you outside the x-pen? He needs to be loved and held and given attn. He is crying out for interactions. He definitely needs consistency, just like a small child. I have to say I'm a bit alarmed about a yorkie living in a garage.

I really do not want to sound mean, but have you thought about whether he is the right for you right now? Yorkies really need a lot of attn and you need to be thinking what is best for him. I know this is hard. My 2 came from another home, where their original owner realized that she couldn't provide them all they needed. We still see her occasionally, she even took care of the yorkies for me 2 mths ago for a weekend.

Perhaps you need to look at from is point of view rather than yours.

If you keep him, I would definitely look at outdoor training
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Here's the thing about pee-pads. They are not like a litter box for cats. If you move the pad you have to re-train the dog. Unless you have taken the time to train him to go on command and completely reinforced that the PAD is the right place to go, it's not really the pad they take to but a specific area. If you put the pad in the laundry room (and properly train the dog to use it there, they do NOT learn this automatically) they are going to continue to go in the laundry room whether or not there is a pad there. You can't just move the pad to another room.

He probably doesn't like all the changes. Every dog is different. Loki freaks out if his day is even a few hours off schedule. Sammy doesn't care what happens as someone plays fetch the fishy with her. Seriously, she is the happiest dog ever. Loki is a grump and things have to be a certain way, he is like OCD or something.

My dogs are trained to go outside because I did not want to teach them that it is OK to go in the house. You might try that, and then hire a pet sitter to take him out during the day if you have to work. At least he will learn NOT to go on the floor, and once they learn that they typically only have accidents if they can't hold it.
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If you don't like my response, oh well... you asked for advice/opinions so you're going to get them and it really bothers me how you resort to sticking him in the garage because he's doing what he KNOWS to do.

You make it sound like he doesn't get hardly any attention at all. I really can't understand or find the reason why you even have him. You've changed it so many times he probably doesn't know where the heck he's supposed to do his business, he's completely confused.

I think you really need to pay attention to the way you're doing with him, if you had a child (which is how I consider my girl) would you put him/her in the garage or a separate room if they had accidents? He's only going by what he's been taught/trained to do so I really think the one regressing is you.

Don't know if this is too blunt, hopefully not .
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If you don't like my response, oh well... you asked for advice/opinions so you're going to get them and it really bothers me how you resort to sticking him in the garage because he's doing what he KNOWS to do.

You make it sound like he doesn't get hardly any attention at all. I really can't understand or find the reason why you even have him. You've changed it so many times he probably doesn't know where the heck he's supposed to do his business, he's completely confused.

I think you really need to pay attention to the way you're doing with him, if you had a child (which is how I consider my girl) would you put him/her in the garage or a separate room if they had accidents? He's only going by what he's been taught/trained to do so I really think the one regressing is you.

Don't know if this is too blunt, hopefully not .
I actually this you worded that very perfect. I am new to having a dog, new to a Yorkie,but I am a mother of 7 years. I know that my lil Leo is just as my two children are. they require love, attention, and when they are not given what they need they act out. He is no different. He is a baby, a child, a loving being you have taken into your home to love and raise. HOw can he feel a part of a stable family if things continue to change for him? HOw can he feel love if he is put in the garage? I feel sad for him, I feel very upset that someone would treat another living thing in such a disregarded measure.Too harsh perhaps,but I've never been one to not give my thoughts when asked.
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Peanutt has had his X-Pen in the kitchen forever it seems, or at least since we got him. He's in there all day when we work and all night when we sleep. I guess you could say he lives the large majority of his life there. So, he had gotten pretty good about going on his pad and not the floor. That made it easier for us to clean it up, and there was less smell.

We ripped out the linoleum and put in tile recently, and his pen went to the garage while we did it, so he started staying there. It took 3 weeks from start to finish (MUCH longer than we thought!), and he did VERY well in his pen in the garage!

So then, we moved him back into the kitchen when the floor was finally ready. Now, he's disgusting about it. Urine and feces everywhere, and a terrible smell. He totally regressed!

SO now, we have had to put him back into the garage, because it was too gross for the house!

Is there ANY good reason why he seemingly "lost it" once he came back into the kitchen?? I mean, he's good in the garage. What the heck?
It breaks my heart, and I feel so sorry for the little one. I think what you are doing it's cruel, period.!
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I want to be kind here all - -- we don't want to run her off. We want to see the best interest of this guy attended to
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My two cents here on this..I am not trying to be harsh.. but I love yorkies so so much.. so please just understand with my feelings.. my first three yorkies were abused.. and it took so much more time to train them coming to a house to start over after such sad living conditions..with that said..
I think it is a bloody crime that there was not room in the house other then the kitchen that was being renovated so he was put in the garage.. these dogs are lap dogs to be loved and to love..I do not believe you should keep this dog.. and I think that rehoming him would be the best solution for both you and for this yorkie.
I mean do you have kids, and would you do this if you were redoing a childs bedroom.. I don't think so.. so why would any normal person buy a yorkie and pay those prices to treat this dog like this.. a child coming out of diapers.. do not know automatically oh I guess now I have to use the big toilet.. so why would you think a dog would know oh I am now x months old so I am to go outside.. no we are all taught.. yup even dogs are taught.. not locked away..
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Here's the thing about pee-pads. They are not like a litter box for cats. If you move the pad you have to re-train the dog. Unless you have taken the time to train him to go on command and completely reinforced that the PAD is the right place to go, it's not really the pad they take to but a specific area. If you put the pad in the laundry room (and properly train the dog to use it there, they do NOT learn this automatically) they are going to continue to go in the laundry room whether or not there is a pad there. You can't just move the pad to another room.

He probably doesn't like all the changes. Every dog is different. Loki freaks out if his day is even a few hours off schedule. Sammy doesn't care what happens as someone plays fetch the fishy with her. Seriously, she is the happiest dog ever. Loki is a grump and things have to be a certain way, he is like OCD or something.

My dogs are trained to go outside because I did not want to teach them that it is OK to go in the house. You might try that, and then hire a pet sitter to take him out during the day if you have to work. At least he will learn NOT to go on the floor, and once they learn that they typically only have accidents if they can't hold it.

Well said! I agree completely. My guess is that Peanutt is confused with all of the change going on. I'd make sure to clean up any messes he makes just as quickly as possible so he doesn't get comfortable living in it. Dogs like to keep their "home" clean so he should have a seperate place to sleep, eat, and go to the bathroom...or at least a decent amount of room between the 3 in his x-pen. Do you have peepads laid out in the other parts of your house that he can use when he's outside of the pen? Giving him praise and a treat everytime you see him use the pad should help reinforce good behavior. Good luck!
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Hi. There was something I was kind of wondering about. Is your garage air conditioned? You know, it gets awfully hot in the garage even with the door cracked. Just was wondering. You do live in the south. I know how hot it gets there. My family is from MS. I also was reading on this thread: http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/gen...irst-time.html that you seem to be gone an awful lot. You know that could very well be affecting his behavior. I don't know what goes on in your life except what you have posted. It's so hard on our beloved little Yorkies to not have a consistent routine. My furbabies always react very negatively to any disruption. They get diarrhea, refuse to eat, start piddling/pooping where they are not supposed to, become fearful. There just seems to be a host of problems that surface. Maybe my experience can help you figure out what is going on with your little baby. I also want to tell you that when I was younger I was a terrible furbaby mommy. I tried to have a doggie when I had little ones and was busy with this or that, running all the time, never home. I wish I had waited longer to have a try at owning a dog. The results weren't good. Had very stressed out doggies. One even lost a lot of hair because of the stress. I re-homed her and she became a happy doggie. I am much better now. Much more settled with my children gone. Have time to tend to the needs of my babies. Doggies need companionship. If they don't have it behavioral issues arise. I've been through it all. Just wanted to let you know that there is a way to fix it if you want to take the time. Good luck in solving you problem.
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