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Old 12-10-2010, 06:59 AM   #1
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1. Your full name - Susan Dodge,dba Clover Hill Yorkshire Terriers

2. Your city, state - Boston MA

3. Your contact information: Clover Hill Yorkshire Terriers - Massachusetts

4. Yorkie(s) For Sale -

5. Birthdates- 09/10/2010

6. Age of Yorkie(s) -

7. Weight of Yorkie parents - 4 & 5 lbs

8. Current weight of Yorkie(s) for sale - will be 4-6 lbs

9. Registration - AKC-limited

10. Price - $1800 when under 6 mos, $3000 over 6 months old includes neuter, complete blood panel, bile acid testing.

11. When puppies will be ready to be taken home -2 males available now

12. Do you ship your Yorkies -NO

13. Do you require a deposit? Is it refundable? n/a

14.Your health guarantee and Yorkie selling contract: email or see web site for details

15. NOTE: We are a small home based breeder-exhibitor. These are very well bred puppies sired by Quicksilver Monastery of La Rabida, pedigrees full of champions from Camparis, Monderlay, Durrer, Padawis. We strongly encourage prospective puppy parents to thoroughly research the breed and the breeder.
We have gone to a great deal of trouble and expense to acquire breeding and show dogs from some of the best show breeders in the world. Three of our four stud dogs are sons of World Champions from Padawis, Coramonte, and Rothby, two are themselves multi champions. Our puppies are consistently correct in structure with sound health, intelligent with sweet temperament and pretty faces. We do not make promises with regards to adult size and mature coloring. We can make guesses on these things based on the parents and our experience, but no promises. If we think you are more interested in a size or color than the actual puppy, we will not sell it to you, so please come to us with realistic expectations.
In response to increased demand for testing and more comprehensive health guarantees, any puppies we hold until 6 months of age will be spayed or neutered prior to leaving, retained deciduous teeth removed, and complete blood panel and bile acid studies completed. Prices will be increased accordingly.
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Just wanted to stop by and say thank you! Trixie is one year old today - Happy Birthday Trixie!! and I wanted to let you know how much joy and happiness she has brought into our lives!!
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Just wanted to stop by and say thank you! Trixie is one year old today - Happy Birthday Trixie!! and I wanted to let you know how much joy and happiness she has brought into our lives!!
WOW, that went by so fast! It's so nice to be reminded how she's loved. Hugs from MamaSue!
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It looks like you have nice dogs but I dont understand why you need so much money for your dogs. You seem to use the same line as most breeders "my dogs are champs" or we are "concerned where we place our dogs". I just recently purchased a sweet healthy pup from a local "shop" for $1150. My vet said she was totally healthy and a nice sturdy example of the breed.

Where do you get off looking for this HUGE premium???
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There's no excuse in this day and age for buying a puppy in a pet shop. We all know those puppies are raised in deplorable conditions and you've promoted bad breeding by doing that. As for what I charge, it's none of your business. The people who come here for my puppies know exactly what my breeding is all about and willing to pay for premium quality.
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It looks like you have nice dogs but I dont understand why you need so much money for your dogs. You seem to use the same line as most breeders "my dogs are champs" or we are "concerned where we place our dogs". I just recently purchased a sweet healthy pup from a local "shop" for $1150. My vet said she was totally healthy and a nice sturdy example of the breed.

Where do you get off looking for this HUGE premium???
I can't believe someone would come here and promote pet shop puppies and then in turn question a breeder who appears to be doing all the right things.

A pet shop puppy will in the end cost way more than even a 3000 dollar puppy from a breeder who health tests and cares about the breed.
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The puppies in this ad are all sold. A new ad will be posted soon to announce a lovely litter from Multi CH Mortimer the Knight of Blue Cross and Clover Hill's Gretel. Morti is son of Multi CH & World CH Rothby's Rockafella at Amwend. Gretel is granddaughter of Multi CH & World CH Handsome Roy of Padawis. The puppies are stunning and will be ready to go home mid-February.
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It looks like you have nice dogs but I dont understand why you need so much money for your dogs. You seem to use the same line as most breeders "my dogs are champs" or we are "concerned where we place our dogs". I just recently purchased a sweet healthy pup from a local "shop" for $1150. My vet said she was totally healthy and a nice sturdy example of the breed.

Where do you get off looking for this HUGE premium???
Members are welcome to post whatever price they feel is appropriate. Personally, I'd more be happy to pay a higher price for a loved, home-raised puppy who has good lines - than to pay a lesser amount to a pet shop, where the dogs come from puppy mills.

I'm not entirely sure what the intention of your post was, bc it doesn't appear like you were wanting a discussion. If you were hoping for a discussion, this wasn't the way to achieve it.
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I was censored here for posting an honest opinion. I feel the asking price is very high. Yorkies are not for profit. We love ours as much as you love the high price tag dogs. They are no better.......
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I was censored here for posting an honest opinion. I feel the asking price is very high. Yorkies are not for profit. We love ours as much as you love the high price tag dogs. They are no better.......
I have to say that $1800 for a yorkie in New England is right in line with all the other breeders and actually is slightly lower. In fact, the last time I walked into a pet store in RI, there were two yorkies with $1800 price tags and I can tell you that they were poor representations of the breed and sickly.

You say that yorkies are not for profit, but I disagree -- they are very much for profit, unless you go to a reputable breeder.

BTW, I have two pet store dogs that are 10 and a dog from a breeder. I will agree with you on one thing - I love my pet store dogs as much as I love my dog from a breeder, but I have not loved spending tens of thousands of dollars on vet care for one of my pet store dogs who was bred by trash in deplorable conditions. I'd never line the pockets of a miller again and hope you will come to feel the same way.
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I was censored here for posting an honest opinion. I feel the asking price is very high. Yorkies are not for profit. We love ours as much as you love the high price tag dogs. They are no better.......
NEWSFLASH! Pet Stores are a HUGE profit making business- you should research how puppy mill dogs are raised- 50 to a cage, cages stacked on top of each other, puppies covered in feces and urine without food and water for days- its disgusting- NO money goes into them thats why they can ask less for them and still make a HUGE profit.

This breeder on the other hand is taking her pups to the vet, supplying food, water, clean pads, clean beds, toys, is paying for shots and if kept longer neuter and bile acid tests. I have paid for spays and neuters, bile acid tests, shots, vet visits and let me tell you, I tried to figure it out financially and I am not sure how she is even doing it, I just don't see her rolling in piles of money over there from these dogs. Most importantly, these dogs are handled by people- kind people not people throwing them from one cage to another- are loved and socialized.

I have ZERO tolerance for puppy mills- I DO understand how people still get sucked into backyard breeders, but I can't understand for the life of me, in this day and age how people can still walk into a pet shop and walk out with a puppy- it is no secret that puppies there come from puppy mills and it is no secret, the terrible, terrible conditions they are kept in.

The hypocrisy is shocking- supporting disgusting, terrible conditions of puppy mills and at the same time questioning a breeder.
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I was censored here for posting an honest opinion. I feel the asking price is very high. Yorkies are not for profit. We love ours as much as you love the high price tag dogs. They are no better.......
With only 11 posts behind you it was pretty easy for my to find that your petshop puppy Lucy has a Grade 2 LP that you posted about here asking for help due to lack of funds for an ER visit.

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/2905871-post1.html

After having such an experience IMO you should have learned that good breeding is very important to the health of your dog. Purchasing from a pet shop will almost guarantee a poor representation of the breed and many time bring the owner huge medical bills. Reputable breeders never sell to pet shops and breeding for good health as a high priority.

It is very concerning that after being a member of this forum for well over a year, purchased a puppy mill dog with Grade 2 LP that you would question price as you did. Have you not read all of the many posts from other members regarding their pet shop purchases and poor health of their puppies? I am offended for the OPer and any members of this board that have purchased healthy Yorkies from MagicGenie.

A side by side analysis of pedigrees of your puppy mill dog and one of the puppies in this thread might also help you understand just how misguided you are with your post. My suggestion would be to do more research on the subject of puppy mills and their poor breeding practices. A little research might be eye opening for you and your questionable comparisons.
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I can't believe someone would come here and promote pet shop puppies and then in turn question a breeder who appears to be doing all the right things.

A pet shop puppy will in the end cost way more than even a 3000 dollar puppy from a breeder who health tests and cares about the breed.

We've had a few of those lately. Of course, the funniest one was the guy who came on here defending a particular pet store, only to have that store the subject of an undercover investigation a few months later. Busted for buying from puppy mills.


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If you got one that was healthy, consider yourself lucky. But make no mistakes about her origins. She's either from a bad breeder or a puppy mill. A reputable breeder doesn't sell to stores. They don't relinquish control over who their pups go to as long as the credit check clears. I personally don't consider the asking price that high. A reputable breeder in GA can easily ask $1500+ for a dog, and have a full waiting list of potential clients. I have more of a problem with the ones who ask 500-600 for them because I can be assured they didn't put in the necessary testing or guarantee the health of the dog.

ETA: The OP does have some gorgeous dogs.
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It looks like you have nice dogs but I dont understand why you need so much money for your dogs. You seem to use the same line as most breeders "my dogs are champs" or we are "concerned where we place our dogs". I just recently purchased a sweet healthy pup from a local "shop" for $1150. My vet said she was totally healthy and a nice sturdy example of the breed.

Where do you get off looking for this HUGE premium???
I think the more approriate question is ..... exactly where do YOU get off questioning a breeder regarding how much they charge when you have no intention of buying one of their puppies!

I am responding to your inflamatory question/comment only because I have to hope that your statement was said because you are ignorant and not just an a**. Either way, you are insulting and arrogant.

The answer to your question though, would be quality breeding.

I happen to have adopted on of magicgenie's pups and did so after much research.

I wanted to adopt a yorkie who was looked after and cared for as if they were part of a family so that they would be healthy and have a nice temperment.....not be just locked up in a cage, ignored, handled by strangers and bred from some poor mama who has been locked up in a cage her whole life.

I also wanted to adopt a healthy yorkie. At our first appointment, my vet (who I have used for many, many years) was amazed with Trixie's knees and overall health, commenting that she has rarely seen a yorkie puppy without knee problems. My vet comments on how beautiful Trixie's teeth and hair/skin are each time we visit.

Good luck with your new pup....I am glad to hear that you got a healthy one.

My suggestion to you would be... in the future, keep your negative, unhelpful comments to yourself....it isn't always necessary to share every thought you have in your head..in fact, sometimes the less said, the better. I'm sure you've heard that before.
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We've had a few of those lately. Of course, the funniest one was the guy who came on here defending a particular pet store, only to have that store the subject of an undercover investigation a few months later. Busted for buying from puppy mills.




If you got one that was healthy, consider yourself lucky. But make no mistakes about her origins. She's either from a bad breeder or a puppy mill. A reputable breeder doesn't sell to stores. They don't relinquish control over who their pups go to as long as the credit check clears. I personally don't consider the asking price that high. A reputable breeder in GA can easily ask $1500+ for a dog, and have a full waiting list of potential clients. I have more of a problem with the ones who ask 500-600 for them because I can be assured they didn't put in the necessary testing or guarantee the health of the dog.

ETA: The OP does have some gorgeous dogs.
Did you see my link? His dog had Grade 2 LP and he was here asking for advice how to pop the knee back into place himself because he didn't have the money for an ER visit. These are his own words!
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