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KissKiss · 03-05-2008, 04:31 AM

Hi there

It seems that Yorkies in the US are generally alot smaller than they are in the US although the breed standard is the same.

Is this true?

I ask because whether I see a yorkie out and about there are so much bigger than the ones I have seen on this site and on American TV and even the yorkies I have seen in the states!? I have never seen a small yorkie in real life in the UK.

Chellbe46 · 03-05-2008, 04:38 AM

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Originally Posted by KissKiss

Hi there

It seems that Yorkies in the US are generally alot smaller than they are in the US although the breed standard is the same.

Is this true?

I ask because whether I see a yorkie out and about there are so much bigger than the ones I have seen on this site and on American TV and even the yorkies I have seen in the states!? I have never seen a small yorkie in real life in the UK.

I have a teacup yorkie and hes very tiny, you get standered size and a teacup size

tino in dress.jpg

Kbsqueff · 03-05-2008, 04:43 AM

There's not such thing as teacup yorkie.... The standard for the yorkshire breed is up to 7lbs...

Kbsqueff · 03-05-2008, 04:44 AM

And here in Brazil it's up to 3.100kg...

Lorrie · 03-05-2008, 05:25 AM

One of the problems with the UK and US standards is that they do not have a minimum weight - they just say "under (or up to) 7 pounds". That leaves the door open for breeding way down in size to suit perceived demand/fashion which could cause whelping difficulties and health/genetic issues further down the road.

There are some really tiny Yorkies in the UK and some of the smallest can be found on the public puppy sale websites. There are some tiny ones in the show ring. There may be some at Crufts, starting tomorrow. I seem to recall the Ozmillion line pups are still quite small, but the little ones do not seem to be as well favoured by the current crop of judges as the larger ones.

Kbsqueff · 03-05-2008, 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Lorrie

One of the problems with the UK and US standards is that they do not have a minimum weight - they just say "under (or up to) 7 pounds". That leaves the door open for breeding way down in size to suit perceived demand/fashion which could cause whelping difficulties and health/genetic issues further down the road.

There are some really tiny Yorkies in the UK and some of the smallest can be found on the public puppy sale websites. There are some tiny ones in the show ring. There may be some at Crufts, starting tomorrow. I seem to recall the Ozmillion line pups are still quite small, but the little ones do not seem to be as well favoured by the current crop of judges as the larger ones.

I so agree w/ you

But only bad breeders breed tiny dog (under 4lbs)...
And, maybe, the judges not favoring the smaller dogs it's a way the tell breeders to keep their dogs in the 5-6 lbs range...

kezza · 03-05-2008, 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Lorrie

One of the problems with the UK and US standards is that they do not have a minimum weight - they just say "under (or up to) 7 pounds". That leaves the door open for breeding way down in size to suit perceived demand/fashion which could cause whelping difficulties and health/genetic issues further down the road.

There are some really tiny Yorkies in the UK and some of the smallest can be found on the public puppy sale websites. There are some tiny ones in the show ring. There may be some at Crufts, starting tomorrow. I seem to recall the Ozmillion line pups are still quite small, but the little ones do not seem to be as well favoured by the current crop of judges as the larger ones.

Yes thats true...my breeder shows at Crufts and all over the country..she sold me my little girl because she would be too small to breed and show...she said the judges tend to not like them to be on the small side...my Pixie is about 3 pounds..her brother was alot larger though and she kept him for breeding.

Chellbe46 · 03-05-2008, 07:05 AM

Tino is only 3lb and hes nearly 8 months, we in the uk call them teacups, the us call them toy

MIZBROWN · 03-05-2008, 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Kbsqueff

There's not such thing as teacup yorkie.... The standard for the yorkshire breed is up to 7lbs...

Ditto

Kbsqueff · 03-05-2008, 07:29 AM

Hmmm...
Standard Yorkies belong to Toy Group...
Teacup is not standart and not a group

Kbsqueff · 03-05-2008, 07:32 AM

Teacup is just a word used by some bad breeders to make more money...

yorkiekist · 03-05-2008, 02:47 PM

I do think that the European Yorkies have a different look to them. Seems like they are a little more leggier and have a longer reach of neck. The heads are a little more terrierish. But talk about silk!!!!!!!!!!! As with here in the USA, it depends on the bloodlines also.
I wonder if you see more "t-cups" here because there are more byb'rs and mills hear and more people are "in it" for the $$$? Just a thought.

marcerella02 · 03-05-2008, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Chellbe46

Tino is only 3lb and hes nearly 8 months, we in the uk call them teacups, the us call them toy

we do not call them Toy here... they are part of the Toy group however there is no such thing as a teacup yorkie and if a breeder tells you that they sell them.. it's just a ploy to get more money for a tiny puppy

Lorrie · 03-05-2008, 11:51 PM

Some "breeders", and I use the term loosely, still call them teacups here and charge a lot of money for them.

All these "size-ist" names for small breed dogs are merely an ad-man's concoction IMO

Some people also like the "baby doll face" with a much shorter muzzle. I think that looks quite cute but it tends to be seen only on the really tiny ones.

Chellbe46 · 03-06-2008, 12:08 AM

can you tell what my baby is,
Whenn i got him from a beeder near my home he told me Valentino was a teacup(small) yorkie and a docked tail. Since then i have found out loads of stuff about the breeder. tino is now fully grown and has got a bit longer in the body but still small i think.
I got alot for horrible people on this site saying that there is not such thing as a teacup, but that is what i was yold when i got my baby boy.
how can you tell what he is?
hes 8 months and 3lb and nutty as hell .

03-05-2008, 04:31 AM	#1
KissKiss Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: manchester Posts: 110	Yorkies in the UK compared with Yorkies in the US. Hi there It seems that Yorkies in the US are generally alot smaller than they are in the US although the breed standard is the same. Is this true? I ask because whether I see a yorkie out and about there are so much bigger than the ones I have seen on this site and on American TV and even the yorkies I have seen in the states!? I have never seen a small yorkie in real life in the UK.

03-05-2008, 07:05 AM	#8
Chellbe46 YT Addict Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Hayes, London England UK Posts: 251	Tino is only 3lb and hes nearly 8 months, we in the uk call them teacups, the us call them toy __________________ Michelle & Puppy Tino *Dogster.com/dogs/620966 -facebook.com/dogbook/profile/view/4452263*

03-05-2008, 07:29 AM	#10
Kbsqueff YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Brazil Posts: 853	Hmmm... Standard Yorkies belong to Toy Group... Teacup is not standart and not a group Last edited by Kbsqueff; 03-05-2008 at 07:30 AM.

03-05-2008, 11:51 PM	#14
Lorrie No Longer a Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: London, UK Posts: 94	Some "breeders", and I use the term loosely, still call them teacups here and charge a lot of money for them. All these "size-ist" names for small breed dogs are merely an ad-man's concoction IMO Some people also like the "baby doll face" with a much shorter muzzle. I think that looks quite cute but it tends to be seen only on the really tiny ones. Last edited by Lorrie; 03-05-2008 at 11:54 PM.

03-06-2008, 12:08 AM	#15
Chellbe46 YT Addict Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Hayes, London England UK Posts: 251	can you tell what my baby is, Whenn i got him from a beeder near my home he told me Valentino was a teacup(small) yorkie and a docked tail. Since then i have found out loads of stuff about the breeder. tino is now fully grown and has got a bit longer in the body but still small i think. I got alot for horrible people on this site saying that there is not such thing as a teacup, but that is what i was yold when i got my baby boy. how can you tell what he is? hes 8 months and 3lb and nutty as hell . __________________ Michelle & Puppy Tino *Dogster.com/dogs/620966 -facebook.com/dogbook/profile/view/4452263*

03-05-2008, 04:43 AM	#3
Kbsqueff YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Brazil Posts: 853	There's not such thing as teacup yorkie.... The standard for the yorkshire breed is up to 7lbs...

03-05-2008, 04:44 AM	#4
Kbsqueff YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Brazil Posts: 853	And here in Brazil it's up to 3.100kg...

03-05-2008, 05:25 AM	#5
Lorrie No Longer a Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: London, UK Posts: 94	One of the problems with the UK and US standards is that they do not have a minimum weight - they just say "under (or up to) 7 pounds". That leaves the door open for breeding way down in size to suit perceived demand/fashion which could cause whelping difficulties and health/genetic issues further down the road. There are some really tiny Yorkies in the UK and some of the smallest can be found on the public puppy sale websites. There are some tiny ones in the show ring. There may be some at Crufts, starting tomorrow. I seem to recall the Ozmillion line pups are still quite small, but the little ones do not seem to be as well favoured by the current crop of judges as the larger ones.

03-05-2008, 07:32 AM	#11
Kbsqueff YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Brazil Posts: 853	Teacup is just a word used by some bad breeders to make more money...

03-05-2008, 02:47 PM	#12
yorkiekist YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Arizona Posts: 1,540	I do think that the European Yorkies have a different look to them. Seems like they are a little more leggier and have a longer reach of neck. The heads are a little more terrierish. But talk about silk!!!!!!!!!!! As with here in the USA, it depends on the bloodlines also. I wonder if you see more "t-cups" here because there are more byb'rs and mills hear and more people are "in it" for the $$$? Just a thought.