Which is the best detangler and shampoo - YorkieTalk.com Forums

Franceen · 01-02-2008, 05:56 PM

Hi

I live in the UK and I wondered if anyone can recommend a good dog shampoo and detangler. I want something to make my baby's coat shiny and glossy and something to get the tangles out of her coat. I really struggle to get the tangles and knots out and she hates me doing it.

Luv

Franceen

ilovesassykmd09 · 01-02-2008, 06:10 PM

What i do is i use human shampoo and conditioner the same kind i use for myself after the shampoo use conditioner and it makes the knots so much easier to deal with.

Dior'sMom · 01-02-2008, 06:25 PM

Chris Christensen ice on ice detangler, works beautifully. www.chrissystems.com/
Minksheen is an excellent shampoo. www.touchofmink.com

Meggie · 01-03-2008, 05:52 AM

For shampoo, I use the Groomers range. Either Detangle, Evening Primrose, or Puppy for the young ones. They all work well, you can get them in Pets At Home etc. I don't use human shampoo as the PH is different, except for Johnson's Baby for their faces so it doesn't sting their eyes.

I do use human conditioner though. Bit of a belt & braces person, so I use a rinse out one, any really, followed by a leave in conditioner. I've found VO5 leave in is very good.
I also use a grooming spray if they've got a bit tangled up in between shampoos, Squirt Spray & Shine is brilliant. Sometimes I use Shaws Detangler spray, but don't like it so much, it can feel a bit sticky.

Franceen · 01-03-2008, 06:25 AM

Thank you all so much for the recommendations. I will try them, one by one, and see which works the best for her tangles. She seems to get little mats that are so hard to get out. I have to tug them out strand by strand, holding the base of the mat, so that she doesn't get hurt. They seem to be back in a couple of days! She is wearing her warm jerseys all the time now, as it is so chilly, and I think that this is giving her the mats, although I can't be sure. Does anyone else find that their little dogs get these mats? She is bathed once or twice a week and I find that the conditioner I used did not help to release the mats at all. I just have to sit down and take them out by hand. I can't use a comb as it hurts her. I brush her every day in the mornings and then put on her jersey, but brushing does not release the mats either. I am making it sound as though she is covered in matted hair but this is not the case!! It is just a few tufts here and there but, obviously, I don't want her to have any at all.

Thanks again for your recs.

Luv

Franceen

Meggie · 01-03-2008, 06:44 AM

I find the matts are worse when they are puppies. the puppy fluff seems to clog up near the skin, rather than down the hair shaft, & need to be brushed out every day. It almost seems to get worse as their coat is changing, then sorts itself out when the adult slky coat comes in & doesn't tangled nearly so much. except for round the elbows & behind the ears, & a bit more on the side they sleep on.
I do think clothes make it worse. No matter how tangle free mine are before I put a jacket on, it can resemble a bird's nest when it comes off

Harnesses do it to mine as well, though I know they're better for throats, no wonder the show Yorkies still wear show leads like my bigger ones do!

Franceen · 01-03-2008, 10:49 AM

Thanks for the reply, Meggie. Her mats are on the side that she sleeps on, now I come to think of it. She also has a harness and there are mats where that is too. At least I now know what is causing them, thanks. They are just so difficult to get out! Poor little thing has to be so patient, as I take them out slowly so as not to hurt her. She gets fed up with the whole thing. I am wondering if perhaps my brush is not a very good one for her coat. I got it at a pet store and it wasn't very expensive. Perhaps a better brush will help keep the mats out? Perhaps I should brush twice a day? I am clutching at straws now! She isn't a puppy - she is 4 years old - five in two months time. I have only had her for a few months.

Thanks again, Meggie.

Luv

Franceen

kezza · 01-03-2008, 11:37 AM

My Pixie's breeder told me that she uses Pantene conditioner, she shows at Crufts every year, so i have been using it too, it leaves Pixies coat very soft, shiny and it's easier to get rid of any tangles.

kezza · 01-03-2008, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Meggie

I find the matts are worse when they are puppies. the puppy fluff seems to clog up near the skin, rather than down the hair shaft, & need to be brushed out every day. It almost seems to get worse as their coat is changing, then sorts itself out when the adult slky coat comes in & doesn't tangled nearly so much. except for round the elbows & behind the ears, & a bit more on the side they sleep on.
I do think clothes make it worse. No matter how tangle free mine are before I put a jacket on, it can resemble a bird's nest when it comes off

Harnesses do it to mine as well, though I know they're better for throats, no wonder the show Yorkies still wear show leads like my bigger ones do!

yeah, my breeder told me she doesn't approve of harnesses as they ruin the coat, she gave me a slip lead for pixie, but i do sometimes use her puppia harness. I bought pixie some lovely little t-shirts but i hardly put them on her as they tend to matt her coat.

Franceen · 01-03-2008, 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kezza

My Pixie's breeder told me that she uses Pantene conditioner, she shows at Crufts every year, so i have been using it too, it leaves Pixies coat very soft, shiny and it's easier to get rid of any tangles.

Thanks for that recommendation, kezza. I will try that first.

Luv

Franceen

lopresm · 01-03-2008, 02:30 PM

Franceen,
Perhaps your pup needs a good trim from the groomer. I found, as some others have suggested here, that the conditioner is the trick.
I use Earthbath shampoo on Remi and either Pantene or Nexus conditioner. I have very little or no knots on my pup's hair at all!

Good luck! Happy New Year to you across the pond!

Franceen · 01-04-2008, 03:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lopresm

Franceen,
Perhaps your pup needs a good trim from the groomer. I found, as some others have suggested here, that the conditioner is the trick.
I use Earthbath shampoo on Remi and either Pantene or Nexus conditioner. I have very little or no knots on my pup's hair at all!

Good luck! Happy New Year to you across the pond!

Thanks for your reply and for the good wishes and recommendations. A very happy New Year to you, too.

I am going to try the Pantene conditioner first and see if this helps. I am using a very nice aloe vera puppy shampoo at the moment. It is a store brand but seems to be good quality, so I will try the conditioner with it and see if it reduces the mats or even solves the problem.

Thanks again.

Luv

Franceen

Meggie · 01-04-2008, 04:42 AM

Franceen. If you can get hold of the Squirt Spray & Shine, I find that helps more than anything. I spray it on the coat before brushing, a bit extra on the tangled bits. It lubricates so the brush glides through more easily. If you can't get that, dipping the tips of the bristles in a little light oil, jojoba ( Body Shop) is best, or almond oil, is very similar.

I don't use a pet brush. For first brush through of tangled coats I use a Kent pure bristle, a small one that's easy to manage round their little fiddly bits, got mine in Boots. Once the tangles are out I use an old silver backed pure bristle brush that I bought cheaply from an antique fair. I was recommended to use one of those by some friends who show Yorkies, they're softer than modern brushes & polish the coat to a lovely shine. You can get them really cheap at fairs. Most antique hunters want ones with the silver looking perfect, so ones that look a bit bashed in the silver department are dirt cheap but work just as well. I've picked up about half a dozen for my dogs & only paid about £10 for each.

BrunoReggiemom · 01-04-2008, 05:08 AM

I use puppy shampoo and pantene conditioner... the pantene does work really well.. I just got my second yorkie and now I am running into the matting because they play together all day long - I am assuming anyway./. someone told me the spit from the dogs tangles up the other dogs hair..

I am going to try that spray and shine stuff though before I brush them out.. hopefully that helps

lopresm · 01-04-2008, 12:10 PM

Thank you both for some great ideas regarding shampoos and tangling. I will certainly try looking for the brush mentioned also.

A groomer I know does not recommend the Pantene that I use. He says the PH balance is not correct. Anyone have any comments on this?
Thanks!

01-02-2008, 05:56 PM	#1
Franceen YT Addict Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 289	Which is the best detangler and shampoo Hi I live in the UK and I wondered if anyone can recommend a good dog shampoo and detangler. I want something to make my baby's coat shiny and glossy and something to get the tangles out of her coat. I really struggle to get the tangles and knots out and she hates me doing it. Luv Franceen

01-02-2008, 06:25 PM	#3
Dior'sMom Donating YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: virginia Posts: 2,856	Chris Christensen ice on ice detangler, works beautifully. www.chrissystems.com/ Minksheen is an excellent shampoo. www.touchofmink.com __________________ Proud Mom 2 Dior And Diezel

01-03-2008, 11:37 AM	#8
kezza Love my Princess Pixie Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Oxfordshire, United Kingdom. Posts: 2,408	My Pixie's breeder told me that she uses Pantene conditioner, she shows at Crufts every year, so i have been using it too, it leaves Pixies coat very soft, shiny and it's easier to get rid of any tangles. __________________ Princess Pixie Pooh..3lbs of pure naughtiness!Every Dog Should Have a Tail To Tell..

01-04-2008, 05:08 AM	#14
BrunoReggiemom Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: West Norriton, Pa Posts: 89	I use puppy shampoo and pantene conditioner... the pantene does work really well.. I just got my second yorkie and now I am running into the matting because they play together all day long - I am assuming anyway./. someone told me the spit from the dogs tangles up the other dogs hair.. I am going to try that spray and shine stuff though before I brush them out.. hopefully that helps __________________ Bruno & Reggie's Mamma myspace.com/brunothedawg

01-02-2008, 06:10 PM	#2
ilovesassykmd09 Yorkie Talker Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: iowa Posts: 10	What i do is i use human shampoo and conditioner the same kind i use for myself after the shampoo use conditioner and it makes the knots so much easier to deal with.

01-03-2008, 05:52 AM	#4
Meggie YT Addict Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Lancashire, England Posts: 459	For shampoo, I use the Groomers range. Either Detangle, Evening Primrose, or Puppy for the young ones. They all work well, you can get them in Pets At Home etc. I don't use human shampoo as the PH is different, except for Johnson's Baby for their faces so it doesn't sting their eyes. I do use human conditioner though. Bit of a belt & braces person, so I use a rinse out one, any really, followed by a leave in conditioner. I've found VO5 leave in is very good. I also use a grooming spray if they've got a bit tangled up in between shampoos, Squirt Spray & Shine is brilliant. Sometimes I use Shaws Detangler spray, but don't like it so much, it can feel a bit sticky.

01-03-2008, 06:25 AM	#5
Franceen YT Addict Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 289	Thank you all so much for the recommendations. I will try them, one by one, and see which works the best for her tangles. She seems to get little mats that are so hard to get out. I have to tug them out strand by strand, holding the base of the mat, so that she doesn't get hurt. They seem to be back in a couple of days! She is wearing her warm jerseys all the time now, as it is so chilly, and I think that this is giving her the mats, although I can't be sure. Does anyone else find that their little dogs get these mats? She is bathed once or twice a week and I find that the conditioner I used did not help to release the mats at all. I just have to sit down and take them out by hand. I can't use a comb as it hurts her. I brush her every day in the mornings and then put on her jersey, but brushing does not release the mats either. I am making it sound as though she is covered in matted hair but this is not the case!! It is just a few tufts here and there but, obviously, I don't want her to have any at all. Thanks again for your recs. Luv Franceen

01-03-2008, 06:44 AM	#6
Meggie YT Addict Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Lancashire, England Posts: 459	I find the matts are worse when they are puppies. the puppy fluff seems to clog up near the skin, rather than down the hair shaft, & need to be brushed out every day. It almost seems to get worse as their coat is changing, then sorts itself out when the adult slky coat comes in & doesn't tangled nearly so much. except for round the elbows & behind the ears, & a bit more on the side they sleep on. I do think clothes make it worse. No matter how tangle free mine are before I put a jacket on, it can resemble a bird's nest when it comes off Harnesses do it to mine as well, though I know they're better for throats, no wonder the show Yorkies still wear show leads like my bigger ones do!

01-03-2008, 10:49 AM	#7
Franceen YT Addict Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 289	Thanks for the reply, Meggie. Her mats are on the side that she sleeps on, now I come to think of it. She also has a harness and there are mats where that is too. At least I now know what is causing them, thanks. They are just so difficult to get out! Poor little thing has to be so patient, as I take them out slowly so as not to hurt her. She gets fed up with the whole thing. I am wondering if perhaps my brush is not a very good one for her coat. I got it at a pet store and it wasn't very expensive. Perhaps a better brush will help keep the mats out? Perhaps I should brush twice a day? I am clutching at straws now! She isn't a puppy - she is 4 years old - five in two months time. I have only had her for a few months. Thanks again, Meggie. Luv Franceen

01-03-2008, 02:30 PM	#11
lopresm YT Addict Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Long Island, New York Posts: 327	Franceen, Perhaps your pup needs a good trim from the groomer. I found, as some others have suggested here, that the conditioner is the trick. I use Earthbath shampoo on Remi and either Pantene or Nexus conditioner. I have very little or no knots on my pup's hair at all! Good luck! Happy New Year to you across the pond!

01-04-2008, 04:42 AM	#13
Meggie YT Addict Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Lancashire, England Posts: 459	Franceen. If you can get hold of the Squirt Spray & Shine, I find that helps more than anything. I spray it on the coat before brushing, a bit extra on the tangled bits. It lubricates so the brush glides through more easily. If you can't get that, dipping the tips of the bristles in a little light oil, jojoba ( Body Shop) is best, or almond oil, is very similar. I don't use a pet brush. For first brush through of tangled coats I use a Kent pure bristle, a small one that's easy to manage round their little fiddly bits, got mine in Boots. Once the tangles are out I use an old silver backed pure bristle brush that I bought cheaply from an antique fair. I was recommended to use one of those by some friends who show Yorkies, they're softer than modern brushes & polish the coat to a lovely shine. You can get them really cheap at fairs. Most antique hunters want ones with the silver looking perfect, so ones that look a bit bashed in the silver department are dirt cheap but work just as well. I've picked up about half a dozen for my dogs & only paid about £10 for each.

01-04-2008, 12:10 PM	#15
lopresm YT Addict Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Long Island, New York Posts: 327	Thank you both for some great ideas regarding shampoos and tangling. I will certainly try looking for the brush mentioned also. A groomer I know does not recommend the Pantene that I use. He says the PH balance is not correct. Anyone have any comments on this? Thanks!