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10-05-2006, 09:53 AM | #1 |
Slave to My Rug-Rats Donating Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Long Island
Posts: 7,247
| Beware of Byrlaur Puppies - Maine Please take caution if you are considering a Brylaur Puppy. Here is the Website: http://hometown.aol.com/brylaur2/home.html I tried to educate myself in my search for my babies (I had not discovered YT at the time ), anyway, I thought I knew enough - mainly to stay away from Pet Stores... I fell in love with TJ and Roxy - and what a deal, I could get them at the same time! I was on the search for 2 and I found them TJ and Roxy have the same father - different mothers I believed the above breeder and truely thought I was getting 2 well taken care of babies. You be the judge! TJ has a roach back, he has Immflamitory Bowel Disease (IBD), luxating patella in both rear legs, he has approx. 9 adult teeth that never formed from the jaw. Roxy has collapsing trachea, luxating patella in both rear legs, when I got her she was 6 months old and she NEVER had her teeth brushed - what makes that so bad, was that she had ALL her babies and ALL her adult teeth - BIG TIME TARTAR, etc... I did recommend the breeder once (before I know about all their problems) and that person got 2 baby girls from the breeder (same parents as Roxy). One girl - so far is healthy. The other girl is sick - liver disease, maybe a liver shunt! The Vet said her 1 year old liver was that of an OLD, OLD dog! I have made numerous attempts at contacting the breeder, THEY COULD CARE LESS! They told me LP can be caused by injury and NONE of their dog have it! When I told them Roxy was going in for surgery, NOT A CARE IN THE WORLD...What makes me most upset is that these were their pups - only 1 year ago...And they didn't even care to conatct me to ask if Roxy was ok after surgery - HOW DISGUSTING!!! SHAME ON ALL BREEDERS THAT ACT THIS WAY! I just couldn't live with myself if I did not share my story, please take caution with this breeder. I know better now. I would not recommend a breeder like this anymore. Feel free to PM me if anyone wants to discuss anything I have said further. |
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10-05-2006, 10:26 AM | #2 |
Donating YT 4000 Club Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Portland Oregon
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| this is a section from their contract...did you sign one?...they do not state a time limit ...perhaps that is something you can hang your hat on! Genetic Guarantee!! We guarantee this puppy to be free from birth defects!! Should this puppy/dog die, must be put to sleep or is found to have a proven birth defect than a replacement puppy, of the same quality, will be offered. The replacement puppy does not have to the same breed, this can be decided by both parties. This puppy does NOT have to be returned to the breeder as long as the breeder is provided with the medical reports and written statement from the new owners Veterinarian. The written statement MUST include the proven genetic problem and a complete description of the puppy/dog. Please do not just send the medical reports, that just tells us the problem and NOT the cause. New owner is completely responsible for any and all transportation and medical expenses..
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10-05-2006, 10:31 AM | #3 |
No Longer A Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: NEW YORK
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| I am so sorry Nicole that this happend to you. I do hope your babies will be ok. You must be devestated for them. How people can literally screw someone else for $ is so hard to believe not to mention not caring about the health of the animals they are breeding! I read this over and over on this site about breeders. I have learned so much from this site over the past year. I actually purchased Buddy from a private pet store! I had no idea about these stores at the time. However, he was born in Budapest, Hungary and is the picture of health, large 13.5lbs but healthy! I hope everything works out for your babies. Keep us posted on their health. |
10-05-2006, 10:31 AM | #4 |
Donating YT 4000 Club Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Portland Oregon
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| this link is posted on her site as well http://hometown.aol.com/brylaur2/MaineLaws.html 7~4155. Rights of the Purchaser 1. Unfit for Sale. If within 10 days after receipt of the animal by the purchaser, a veterinarian states in writing that the animal has a health problem that existed in the animal at the time of delivery or if, within one year after receipt of the animal by the purchaser, a veterinarian states in writing that due to a hereditary or congenital defect the animal has died or has a condition that will shorten its life or will require constant treatment during its life, the animal is considered to have been unfit for sale at the time of sale. 2. Death; Remedies. When an animal dies due to a health problem that would have rendered the animal unfit for sale pursuant to subsection 1, and that health problem existed in the animal at the time of delivery but was not disclosed under the provisions of section 4152, the pet dealer shall provide the purchaser with one of the following remedies selected by the purchaser: A. An animal of equal value, if available; or B. A refund of the full purchase price of the animal. 3. Health Problem; Remedies. When an animal has a health problem that that renders the animal unfit for sale pursuant to subsection 1, and that health problem existed in the animal at the time of delivery to the purchaser but was not disclosed under the provisions of section 4152, the pet dealer shall provide the purchaser with one of the following remedies selected by the purchaser: A. Return of the animal to the pet dealer for a refund of the full purchase price of the animal; B. Exchange of the animal of the purchaser's choice of equivalent value, providing a replacement is available; or C. Retainment of the animal and reimbursement for 1/2 of the resonable veterinary fees not to exceed 1/2 of the original purchase price of the animal. 4. Veterinary Service; Fees. The fee for veterinary service is reasonable if the service is appropriate for the diagnosis and treatment of the health problem and the fee for the service is comparable to fees charged by other veterinarians who are in proximity to the treating veterinarian. 7~4156. Responsibilities of Purchser To obtain the remedies provided in section 4155, the purchaser has the following responsibilities with respect to an animal with a health problem. 1. Veterinary Diagnosis. The purchaser must notify the pet dealer, within 2 business days, of the diagnosis by a veterinaarian of a health problem and provide the pet dealer with the name and telephone number of the veterinarian and a copy of the veterinarian report on the animal. 2. Refund. If the purchaser wishes to recieve a full refund for the animal, the purchaser must return the animal not later than 2 business days after receipt of a written statement from a veterinarian indicating that the animal is unfit due to a health problem. With respect to a dead animal, the purchaser must provide the pet dealer with a written statement from a veterinarian indicating that the animal died from a health proble that existed on or before the receipt of the animal by the purchaser.
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10-05-2006, 10:48 AM | #5 |
Slave to My Rug-Rats Donating Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Long Island
Posts: 7,247
| Thanks Kim for your information. Yes, I did sign a contract that had those exact words from them. The problem is that (from my understanding) if I were to get 'anything' from them...it would be another puppy. Which I DO NOT WANT! I wouldn't even want a puupy from them to give free to someone! I have learned sooooooo much from YT and I share that knowledge to everyone. My DH and I love TJ and Roxy so much, we pretty much would die for them as if they were our flesh and blood. We are committed to providing the absolute best life for them, including any medical attention they need. I just feel so aweful that I had that much faith in someone that could probably fall into the category of BYB or worse - puppymill. I hate that someone else bought 2 girls - under my recommendation. These poor helpless pups, they are victims of irresponsible and greedy souls. The carelessness is just unbelievable. It is such a shame. |
10-05-2006, 11:14 AM | #6 |
YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Alabama
Posts: 2,225
| i just don't understand how people like that can have clear concious and not think about the babys they are producing being sick and suffering just for money! i hope your dogs will be ok! noe of their dogs look groomed at all either http://hometown.aol.com/brylaur2/adults.html
__________________ A pet's love is true right from the start, through good times and bad, like sharing one heart. Last edited by Peters; 10-05-2006 at 11:17 AM. |
10-05-2006, 11:20 AM | #7 |
Slave to My Rug-Rats Donating Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Long Island
Posts: 7,247
| It is so very sad I think TJ and Roxy will be ok, Roxy has had surgery for LP (both legs), but one leg is luxating again, so she has to go back again for surgery. TJ will also have to have surgery. Roxy's CT, is mild, but we still have to take caution. The other little girl with the 'bad' liver, I hope she will be ok too, but only time will tell. It really is just such a shame, b/c these genetic defects could so easily be disolved, if only more of the breeders in this world would do proper screening of their breeding dogs (or just not breed at all) - greed is a very evil thing. |
10-05-2006, 11:22 AM | #8 | |
Donating YT 4000 Club Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Portland Oregon
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It appears by Maine law you would be entitled to 50% refund and you still have possession of the dog...you may want to look into that.
__________________ Kimberly | |
10-05-2006, 11:38 AM | #9 |
Slave to My Rug-Rats Donating Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Long Island
Posts: 7,247
| I will look into it more, Thanks Kim. Although, it says, within 1 year from when I got them. Which I think was 5/23/05. I did get the first confirmation from my general vet about Roxy this past spring, I will have to go back and look at my records... C. Retainment of the animal and reimbursement for 1/2 of the resonable veterinary fees not to exceed 1/2 of the original purchase price of the animal. I paid $700 for TJ and $800 for Roxy - so if they had to give me something the most it would be is $750 (Better than nothing, considering Roxy's LP is at $3000 plus another $600 (re-surgery) and then TJ will be another $3000 |
10-05-2006, 05:15 PM | #10 |
YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Virginia
Posts: 989
| It seems like they are inbreeding. Max and Draco are father and son and seem to be the only males. Then you have Onya and Tara. Max is their father and Draco is their brother. I could be wrong but I don't think that is a good idea to breed them.
__________________ MICHELLE DIESEL "The Weasel" and little brother TUCKER |
10-05-2006, 05:20 PM | #11 |
Slave to My Rug-Rats Donating Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Long Island
Posts: 7,247
| They say that they don't breed Max anymore. They say they never breed Draco. On page 2 you will see Toto - That is my 2 fathers, and he seems to be the father of all the pups that have been listed in the past year. But, who knows for sure, right! |
10-05-2006, 10:47 PM | #12 | |
Donating Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: NJ
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Go Kim! Way to help a fellow yorkie talker out once again!
__________________ Krissy, mommy to the kids... | |
10-06-2006, 07:16 AM | #13 |
No Longer a Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: South Florida
Posts: 8,577
| breeder I talked with this breeder..seh said she was unaware of any unhappy buyers with genetically unsounds pups...but if she did know about the buyers she would correct the problem...sooo I would take her up on it..good luck |
10-06-2006, 07:45 AM | #14 |
Slave to My Rug-Rats Donating Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Long Island
Posts: 7,247
| WOW, that's very interesting. I have saved all of our communications via e-mails. She definitely knows about IBD and the LP, and she told me that the mucus poop problems, etc...are because I changed TJ food from (crap)-Eukenuba to a high quality food and that I should have kept them on the Eukenuba. When I told them about the LP, they said LP can be caused by injury and that Roxy's parents and TJ's parents DO NOT HAVE LP and they HAVE NEVER PRODUCED ANY PUPS WITH LP...end of story! I continued to tell them about the surgery required and I got NO RESPONSE! They could care less...BUT I will gather all my info again over the weekend and contact them about all of this further. I basically just wanted to tell my story and tell how VERY DISAPPOINTED I am with this breeder. I wanted to list all the problems that TJ and Roxy have, so that if anyone was thinking about this breeders pups, maybe my story could help them to make a decision. Again Thanks, I will try to pursue this as far as I can, because it just makes me sooooooo mad how they just don’t seem to care at all! |
10-06-2006, 09:18 AM | #15 |
Slave to My Rug-Rats Donating Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Long Island
Posts: 7,247
| ...also on the AKC Suspension List ...I also just found out that they are on the AKC Suspension List http://www.barkbytes.com/suspend/suspindx.htm#a ************************************* http://www.barkbytes.com/suspend/suspca.htm Castle Bryant Whitefield ME 5/7/01 5/7/11 multiple for failure to comply with recordkeeping and identification requirements. (6/01) -------------------------------------------------- Castle Laura Whitefield ME 5/7/01 5/7/11 multiple for failure to comply with recordkeeping and identification requirements. (6/01) |
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