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12-13-2005, 11:22 AM | #16 |
Mommy's Lil' Piper Cub Join Date: May 2005 Location: Pennsylvania
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| WOW!! That's A LOT of pups but Cisco's Mom already has her baby from there... the info will be valuable for those looking in the future
__________________ Tammy & Piper ~Yorkies Are Not Our Whole Life, But They Make Our Lives Whole~ |
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12-13-2005, 01:08 PM | #17 | |
Monte, Mone't's Joy! Donating Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: MD
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12-13-2005, 06:07 PM | #18 |
Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Staten Island, NY
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| Congrats on your new baby...I hope you have many, many years of happiness with this amazing breed Just as a note...Sammi's breeder was USDA registered as well..And when I first found that out last year I got very upset because RIGHT AWAY I assumed Sammi was from a mill (not that it made any difference, becuase I would love her regardless) so I had Kim from Nopuppymills.com check for me last year...then again this year...Her report to me is below... ID 3439 Date Submitted 12/1/2005 Yorkie puppy purchased March 2004. No problems noted. Owner is concerned because she found the breeder on a list of licensed breeders by USDA and believes the breeder is 'bad.' USDA is required by law to license and inspect any breeder with more than 3 female breeding dogs, that is selling the puppies from those dogs to "wholesale" places, such as brokers and petshops. While many people believe that a breeder should take responsibility for the puppies they breed, and sell them themselves to ensure the puppies are going to good homes, it still does not mean that a USDA breeder is abusing or neglecting their dogs. Please see the comments below, but also understand that I have never seen this breeder's facility so I can't say for sure how she treats her dogs. Also, My reports are a little outdated now and I have no idea how many dogs she might have now. Lastly, please know this is the EXCEPTION, not the rule. Most puppies come from facilities with an average of 100 breeding dogs, and over 50% of those facilities have violations listed by USDA. Even those that do not have violations, may be only meeting the 'minimum standards' set by USDA, which treats dogs like livestock, not like companion animals. ID 2066 Date Submitted 11/10/2004 Yorkie puppy purchased March 2004. Puppy reported healthy. I show no violations at all on this breeder and show in 1999 she had only 9 adult breeding dogs. This is a very rare thing to find in commercial breeders and I can only hope I see more and more like them! Licensee Name: BELISLE, KAREN DBA: BELISLES KENNEL Certificate #: 43-A-3006 Address: P.O. BOX 165 OSCEOLA, MO 64776 County: ST CLAIR Site Code: 001 Description: KAREN BELISLE Date: 23-SEP-04 Received By: KAREN BELISLE This inspection was conducted by Karen Belisle, owner and Jennifer Schmitz, ACI. Last inspection was conducted on Sep 8, 2003. No non-compliances identified this inspection. Site Code: 001 Description: KAREN BELISLE Date: 08-SEP-03 Received By: Karen Belisle Inspection was conducted by Karen Belisle- owner and David Courtright- ACI. Site Code: 001 Description: KAREN BELISLE Date: 21-OCT-02 Received By: KAREN BELISLE Inspection was conducted by Karen Belisle- owner and David Courtright- ACI. No non-compliant items identified this inspection.
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12-15-2005, 06:20 AM | #19 | |
Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: mo
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12-15-2005, 06:27 AM | #20 | |
Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: mo
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I thought i had done my homework, but now y'all got me worried... I know she had a clean home etc, and she had a kennel in the back of her house, i guess i should have asked to look at the kennel too? I didn't know about the USDA either.. | |
12-15-2005, 06:29 AM | #21 | |
Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: mo
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12-15-2005, 06:34 AM | #22 | |
Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: mo
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Maybe she would check into fantasy yorkies for me... | |
12-16-2005, 02:14 PM | #23 |
Yorkie Talker Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Waynesville. Mo
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| Rocky's Dad We puchased a small yorkie from Fantasy Yorkies. We called and went to their home tp see the puppies that we available. We were met by three or four beautiful dogs. They were well groomed and trained. Shirley and her husband were great. They showed us two male puppies but my wife wanted a smaller puppie. e had just lost our beautiful female yorkie Lucy. Shirley brought Rocky to my wife and it was instant love. We purchased him but could not take him home until he was bigger. We visited him on two occasions and he was very clean and well cared for. After we got him our vet gave him a complete check-up and gave him a clean bill of health. He said that we had gotten him from a good breeder. We went back a couple of months later to pick up a new harness and leash and they asked that we bring Rocky with us. They are very concerned about their puppies and who gets them. Our Rocky is spoiled rotten, worse than Lucy was or our other yorkie pepper is. He is so full of life and our entire family loves him so much. He crawls up on my wife's shoulder and goes to sleep just like a baby. It is so easy to get off of track when talking about yorkies. In any case, Fantasy Yorkies gets an A plus from us. |
12-16-2005, 03:05 PM | #24 | |
Stewie Rox the Sox Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Chicago
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12-16-2005, 05:31 PM | #25 |
Yorkie Talker Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Waynesville. Mo
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| Rocky's Dad Yes, I am Rocky's Dad. And yes he came from Fantasy Yorkies. His father is Micky Bleau. He is 10 months old and is an ounce or two less than 4 pounds. He is spoiled rotten by the entire family. My daughter, grandsons, and my sisters in Kentucky all think he is the greatest. He has had check ups from our vet which is a personal friend of mine and was found to be healthy. There is no hidden kennel at Shirley and Ron's house. They have not changed locations. I think if you checked they don't have all of the dogs that you have listed. I know people that have purchased yorkies from them and they are as happy with their puppy as we are. I don't know what your problem is with them and it is not my business but I sure hope that Cisco's mom will do as I am doing and that is to enjoy my yorkie. Shirley and Ron have been outstanding with us and made every effort to provide us with a loving and healthy puppy. |
12-16-2005, 05:45 PM | #26 | |
Stewie Rox the Sox Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Chicago
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12-16-2005, 05:54 PM | #27 |
Lily Loves Maximus Donating Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Missouri
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| Congratulations on that cute little furball!!!! He is adorable!!!!! I checked out Fantasy Yorkies when I was looking for Lily. They had some pretty babies!
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12-16-2005, 06:03 PM | #28 |
Yorkie Talker Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Waynesville. Mo
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| Rocky's Dad The answer to yor personal qustion is no, I am not affiliated with Ron and Shirley. I have one yorkie that my best friend gave me and we had another , Lucy, that we lost last spring that came from my cousin in Kentucky. One of our friends purchased two puppies from Fantasy Yorkies and had nothing but praise about them. We were treated outstanding by the owners and I can assure you that the dogs they have are not treated like dogs in a puppy mill. I have no knowledge of any violations. As was stated earlier, anyone with three of more breeding dogs must register USDA. So, I am sorry to disappoint you but I am not worried in the least about our yorkie. He is awesome, full of energy and love and we make sure that he gets all of the love and caring he needs and wants. He was so easy to house train and he is so smart. I will finish this up because it is our play time( Racky and I). |
12-17-2005, 08:45 AM | #29 | |
Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: mo
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Cisco seems to be in a minority as a yorkie to how good he has taken to house training. He hardly ever misses a pad, and i have only had him 2 weeks. He's got a wonderful personality. So thus far i am very happy with him. | |
01-03-2006, 02:00 PM | #30 |
Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: PA
Posts: 225
| I also considered purchasing from them. Unfortunately when I asked since they do not provide a health guarantee against hereditary conditions, if they at the least had their sires and dams tested for these, I received no reply. At that moment I realized they were not the ones to purchase my yorkie from. Their prices were about the same when purchasing from a different breeder with a one year guarantee. |
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