BEWARE N2themsyticyorkies.com!

[majesticyorkies]

There is a puppymill in lincolnton North Carolina! N2themysticyorkie. is a puppy mill, I stoped breeding a year ago. I let Karen Mcdonald Bowels take over my website and placed my yorkies in her care, she was to spilt the first litter from each female with me to buy for the dogs. On Thursday the 10th of June 2010, I had to go get my dogs back. They were in small cages 3-4 in a cage no water no food, in the heat outside! They were matted beyond anything I have ever seen before! I rushed them to the vet they were dehydated/ starved / they had lossed mussle mass and were barely alive! I did find pet homes for all of them thanks to Tracy and Kathy 2 laldys that have gotten puppies from me in the past. The ending for these babies was a good one but there are more still suffering! I could not take the ones that did not belong to me but I am working with animal control to try to get the rest of the animals from her! The problem is in North Carolina, the laws do not prevent her from getting more in the future! I want to warn everyone so they don't buy a puppy from this woman! She will offer to bring the puppy to you so you can't see where it's really been kept or the bad conditions the parents are in! The dogs were also covered in fleas and had tapeworms! Please spread the word for me, I need all of your help on this one! I hope this thread will attch to her website so people can see the warning before they call her! I feel like a bad person for sending my babies into such a bad place but I had 2 disc removed from my back last year and am still not better, no bend/ lift/ or swist for 5 months! She would bring one or 2 to see me ever once and a while if I asked and they looked O.K I had no idea how they were really living! They thank god have great homes now and are doing wonderful! Yes I am checking up on them now! Just tell people! Please! One yorkie of hers was pregant! I had to leave her there! I do hope the animal control does what they should do, but I don't have much faith in N.C. I do hope they banned puppy mills and make it a felony if you run one! Thank you all for your time and any help in this matter just go to my user and email me if you kno of anything else I can do. I am so worried about the babies left behind! All of them not just the yorkies.

[red98vett]

People like that make me so sick - keep on them and don't stop - if you have proof from the vet that the poor dogs you went back to get were starved and dehydrated then show it to them too - anything to help the ones left behind

Pictures are always a plus too - Here in Houston I had to report a neighbor and took photos of the dog and the condition he was in (it was bad and i still have the photos) and they were out there the very next day

The owner surrendered him claiming he couldnt afford the vet care - yet they had a big home - huge yard - trampoline and other things for the kids out in that yard ......and here was this poor dog huddled up in a corner near my fence with half his hair missing and skin was RAW - it was horrible to see ....

[mojo]

I don't understand, did you know this lady before you gave your dogs to her? Did you ever see the conditions they would be living in?

[YorkieGeorge]

I am so sorry that your furkids went to the hands of puppymills. I pray that you can them back. this really makes me sad.......I am 100% against puppymills or cage breeders.

[majesticyorkies]

Yes I thought I did anyway! I went to her 2086 sq ft house! I saw 3 dogs living in house fenced in back yard. Everything looked ok! I could not go back because of my surgery very painful! Surgery was as suvere as triple buy pass. Hope you can try to understand that part. when I did go back I found the dogs in very bad shape! She had gotten more dogs too, total of 30 dogs way too many!! Got mine and left! straight to the vet! Called animal control but have not heard back. I am worried about the others. Back surgery did not work, I have to use a cain and can't sit very long. But with my hubby and Moms help managed to groom and place 5 yorkies and 2 maltese in 2 days, well and Tracy and Kathy finding them homes! Yes I have vet records and a letter from him. he's been my vet for 8 yrs. He knows me and my dogs and they were always healthy vet checked and well loved kept in the house/ in my bed every night. My hubby and I have seperate bedrooms because of the babies. I still have 3 yorkies and one 12 yr old poodle all fixed all my babies. They mean everything to me. There is nothing wrong with breeding did it for 12 yrs, as long as you put the dogs first. And you are doing it to better your breed. I wanted to go in show that was my dream. But dreams change.

[majesticyorkies]

Originally Posted by mojo

I don't understand, did you know this lady before you gave your dogs to her? Did you ever see the conditions they would be living in?

Maybe you all can help me figure out how to post this other places, I 'm in my 40's not very computer savy. I don't know how to pull in letters from vet so forth on ty. I can't really sit more than 30mins at one time. If you go to her website click on grooming button and scroll to the bottom of the page and click on home button you will be in my old website. You can read how I was as a breeder. That how she said she would be. I was lied to over and over I see that now. I saw her dogs and they were taken care of, thats all I had to go on. I am so glad I don't breed anymore. I don't want the worry of is this a good home? Are they honest people? Etc, too much to worry about in placing puppies anymore. All I want is the word out so people know. And I hope breeders will read this and not sell her any puppies. Who knows what I could stop from happening later. Yes I was stupid! You don't have to say it believe me I feel it! Stupid / low/ and jsut plain sick to my stomach. I have to do something to warn everyone for the babies left behind. I have too!

[LunasMomma]

Oh my gosh I'm so sorry that this happened to you and your babies, and also for all of the pain you've been experiencing

It sounds like she had you fooled. You tried to do the right thing and placed your babies with someone who you thought would love and care for them like you did, and she turned out to be a miller

I'm glad that you got your dogs back and they are all in good homes now. Praying that the other dogs get away as well. OH how I wish that there were stiffer punishments for these horrible people. They should be made to live like they force these innocent animals to!

[pagonzal]

Looked at the website. She is saying that someone stole her animals and is trying to sell them. HMMM!

Pam

[tammy8833]

im not sure what the deal is..and no offense to the OP...but the OP has been on here before several times ripping breeders that were previous friends or breeding associates and she has come back to apologize for for over reacting ..sounds like she runs into trouble and then bashed them when it doesnt go as planned ...

i dont know either breeder..this is MY observation reading past threads

[tammy8833]

wow there is a lot of history of the OP giving and taking dogs back...and then attacking the people she gave them too..

i think there is pieces we are missing in those stories..again just my observation..still reading

[pagonzal]

Originally Posted by tammy8833

wow there is a lot of history of the OP giving and taking dogs back...and then attacking the people she gave them too..

i think there is pieces we are missing in those stories..again just my observation..still reading

Thought something seemed familiar.

Pam

[tammy8833]

im sorry i dont mean to keep pointing things out..but im intrigued some what and doing some research..

Im confused...how can you say you basically didnt know her..yet everything ties you two together? all your ads listed under your name refers to the above mentioned site with a woman named karen..who is stating her dogs were stolen

this looks like the 3rd breeder you have done this too...and no i dont know any details but its seem on three occassions you "befriend" someone give them dogs..then rush and take them back stating these are horrible pm or horrible breeders and they have horrible living conditions for the dogs...SOMETHING IS SERIOUSLY NOT RIGHT HERE..

looks like karen created your website for you
your available puppies pages DIRECTS everyone to the above website you have BEWARE on on this post
found advertise rare micro miniature golden morkie with your contract info


i have to admit the reason i am so intriqued is during my research on YT through postings, someone she bad mouth (who is still listed a her best friend on her site) is actually a breeder i just purchased a puppy from (shocked i know, i was) my experience with the breeder was "OK"..i found her online...after looking for months..i found the picture of the cutest yorkie..ya da ya da made the call..talked some, driving distance was a bit a problem...but the breeder worked with me gave me a great deal on delivering my akc female..very nice lady..got a little lost..i had to meet her bit futher than planned..puppy is beautiful, healthy n sweet...i didnt see the breeders property..i did get my akc papers..did not receive the health guarantee paper work..did not get the medical records just the dates i was surprised at how often the puppy was vaccinated before i got her ..all in all it was an OK experience...i am happy with my pup though..still a nice lady..i did not push the issue on the guarantee paper work (probably should have) i was told to call if something was to happen..and that i had a 1 yr genetic warranty

and of course im not just posting to fend for someone i have been a member a long time and post many times but i am posting because i found all the bad mouthing a little odd...if there is anything the OP can clear up WONDERFUL!

in my eyes it seems there alot more going on btw her and her "breeder friends/foes" than she is letting on...and thats only natural..to just want to voice your own side of the story..but remember there is 3 sides to every story..hers, his and the truth some where in the middle

[majesticyorkies]

Originally Posted by tammy8833

im sorry i dont mean to keep pointing things out..but im intrigued some what and doing some research..

Im confused...how can you say you basically didnt know her..yet everything ties you two together? all your ads listed under your name refers to the above mentioned site with a woman named karen..who is stating her dogs were stolen

this looks like the 3rd breeder you have done this too...and no i dont know any details but its seem on three occassions you "befriend" someone give them dogs..then rush and take them back stating these are horrible pm or horrible breeders and they have horrible living conditions for the dogs...SOMETHING IS SERIOUSLY NOT RIGHT HERE..

looks like karen created your website for you
your available puppies pages DIRECTS everyone to the above website you have BEWARE on on this post
found advertise rare micro miniature golden morkie with your contract info


i have to admit the reason i am so intriqued is during my research on YT through postings, someone she bad mouth (who is still listed a her best friend on her site) is actually a breeder i just purchased a puppy from (shocked i know, i was) my experience with the breeder was "OK"..i found her online...after looking for months..i found the picture of the cutest yorkie..ya da ya da made the call..talked some, driving distance was a bit a problem...but the breeder worked with me gave me a great deal on delivering my akc female..very nice lady..got a little lost..i had to meet her bit futher than planned..puppy is beautiful, healthy n sweet...i didnt see the breeders property..i did get my akc papers..did not receive the health guarantee paper work..did not get the medical records just the dates i was surprised at how often the puppy was vaccinated before i got her ..all in all it was an OK experience...i am happy with my pup though..still a nice lady..i did not push the issue on the guarantee paper work (probably should have) i was told to call if something was to happen..and that i had a 1 yr genetic warranty

and of course im not just posting to fend for someone i have been a member a long time and post many times but i am posting because i found all the bad mouthing a little odd...if there is anything the OP can clear up WONDERFUL!

in my eyes it seems there alot more going on btw her and her "breeder friends/foes" than she is letting on...and thats only natural..to just want to voice your own side of the story..but remember there is 3 sides to every story..hers, his and the truth some where in the middle

I built my website no one else! Thank you! Bred for 12 years! I had to place my dogs due to back surgery! I got these back because they were starving!!!!!!!!! I tried to teach this lady how to be a good breeder not a puppy mill!! If you are refer to Celia Miller who no longer breeds buy the way! I got my chipper from her. Not the other way around. As far as anyone else I did not make the post just posted back ?? are fine But do you want her to breed then call her! I beg you do call ask to see the Moms and Dads! You want a puppy mill operating?? This is for those people who don't want them. I was not a greedy breeder but am finding there are alot of them out there! But I puppy mill is a puppy mill! As far as the post you need to really read them! And read my old website or all my old post, then you would not be asking so many ?? comman sence really, thats all been posting longer than she's been around. So thank you to all that read and listen so you don't seel her a dog or buy one from her. Blessings to those nice people here on yt.

[majesticyorkies]

Originally Posted by pagonzal

Thought something seemed familiar.

Pam

I know alot about the breeders in this State. I live here. She has no breeders friend page That was my page not hers. I don't breed anymore, so why do I care]]]]]]] Because its a puppy mill thats why. I was fooled. And if you really read the post you could see that. Besides if the other lady who's only 28. I have a daughter that age, so that's very young would read the other post she would see that I had bred yorkies for 12 yrs. The post were posted about me not by me. And I had to place my babies because I could not groom them. Not because I could not feed them/ wanted them in cages in the hot sun all day. I could have kept them if I beleived that was the right thing to do. Good Greif. If the other lady got a yorkie from someone that was on my old website well good. They I believed were good breeders at the time or they would not have been on majesticyorkies breeders friend page. any other ?? please just ask. I don't mind as I expected such. Buy a yorkie from her if you want to but you won't get any papers, she will tell you you will. Up to you, just make sure you ask to see the parents. Call the #. Just a # ask ?? Do that please then post back please. I have nothing to hide.

[tammy8833]

i think you need to slow down..the comments you have posted are very unclear

i just think its odd..that 3 people you have listed as friends and "shared" yorkies with are now PM and horrible breeders and you are making sure the yorkie community knows that ..apparently i hit a sore subject.

i did read the post and did do a LOT of googling..of course i saw no dates...

the website SAYS CREATED BY KAREN BOWLES (i think that was the last name)..