Tiffany Coburn

[yorkieisme]

Originally Posted by Chrissy0277

I called too but if it was an AKC error as stated. Why did it take 2 years to reinstate you?
You know what shouldnt care I would never by a dog from you anyway. You sold a male for breeding that had one testicle. If you knew he was not correct and you sold him as an adult he SHOULD of been neutered. If you did you wouldnt be here defending your self now, would you? You should always protect your lines and now that you sold this male he was bred (without your permission or not) and he has reproduced pups with his same health issues.

Maybe she trusted her to do the right thing. Sometimes people do make mistakes. The poor boy should have not been bred, but OP still did it. Was that really the breeder's fault? I am planning on buying my yorkie I want a pet only, well the breeder has to take my word for it or neuter him before leaving her house.

The new owner knew this and still did it. Then used "I'm new to breeding" as for why she did it. Did she not do enough research, studying, mentoring prior to jumping in and becoming a breeder. A breeder guides her own breeding program not the person who sold her the dog. Within a year you should know if he/she is good enough to use.

Two sides to everything.......doesn't matter what the cause of them re-instating her they did and that is all that matters.

[AHicks99]

First of all I would like to thank all of you for reading and posting. As you can see in Tiffanys posts she is quite on the defesive side. I am not looking for anyone to take my side. I am just looking to educate people on the personality of Tiffany and her breeding habits. I assure you all I never knew he only had one testicle until I received him. Tiffany knew I was looking to buy a small male to breed with my female. And I never paid 700.00 for him. He was far more then that. She advertised him as a champion sire. She is totally lying! And as far as her referring to the bible and so on. Please do keep praying Tiffany because lies count against you. And when you intentionally do harm to people or living creatures thats on you. You and I both know what really went on and if you can live with yourself then thats you. And reason this is brought up now is because I finally found a place where she is dealing. Back FOUR years ago I would email her and she never emailed me back. Over the years I've looked her up and found she was suspended (for whatever reason) its not because of the AKC its because she didnt supply the info the requested. In another post she is even admitted to it. She blames it on a move. And now wants to say it was the AKC's error. Tiffany is a spineless person and wants to blame everyone else for her wrongdoings. Again I take full responsibilty for him. Like I said previously I have the emails and paperwork of what Tiffany sent me. Stating he was ok to breed. I did take him to the vet right away and thats who told me he COULD not be used for breeding. Thats when I contaacted Tiffany back. I never had any other problems with him he aggressive. I even called Tiffanys vet and asked why he would write on the certificate ok for breeding, her vet stated to me he never wrote that. She put it on there to make it seem ok. Anyhow he is now fixed and a pet only. And Tiffany noone is judging you thats what it is. You did me wrong and you know it. I paid for it and I want others to know who you really are. You are not as good as you say. You may have champions but you didnt get them by being honest.

Anyhow thank you all again for reading and posting. I have learned a lot in the past four years about dogs and breeding. Tiffany knew I was just starting out and I thought she could be a good resource for me and I trusted her until the emails stopped and I realized she scammed me. Good luck to you all!

[missgin]

For someone who has better things to do with their life they still come back to defend themselves--just stating the obvious.

Tiffany, I hope you find loving homes for your Yorkies and that the Yorkies you intend for breeding are sent to good homes with good breeders. I wish you nothing but the best.

Alysia, I hope that the Yorkie is well and healthy and knows how much he is loved in your home. I'm not sure how long you've been breeding but I wish you the best of luck.

Also, the last time I checked this was a Yorkie forum, not a religious one. Lets keep this clean. Bringing religious beliefs into this will only stir up more problems. Everyone is entitled to their own beliefs and their own faith.


Now that all is said and done, a matter that is many years old needs to go to rest. Everyone learned a lesson.

[amr333]

I THINK IT IS TIME FOR THIS THREAD TO BE CLOSED!!!

[Chrissy0277]

Funny you just joined and apperently know sooo much about me. Im not entitled to a day off of work for a day of doing NOTHING? I work hard at what I do and matter of fact I do have a life. I show dogs too and no Im not a breeder but when someone posts something like how they got screwed over not only myself but other YTers search out the truth too. I didnt know it was a crime to search out a person. Go ahead research it and you will find hundreds of threads of the same crap. So for someone to search out YT (which im sure you had gotten the gossip elsewhere, so whos the one with no life?) just to post what you did, shows someone with nothing better to do. How many posts do you have? 2. You just happened to have found YT today to defend your friend. The AKC privalige revoke stated she and her husband had inproper paperwork for multiple breeds. How else is one supposed to take that? Go and search dog breeder websites most of your BYBers mention God a thousand times. Now go and search that person you founds name. Im willing to bet you any amount of money you will find many negative things about their breeding program, sick puppies, falsifying paperwork,the list goes on.
And please get over yourself.. quoting the bible.

[Chrissy0277]

Yeah close this thread.

Im so tired of people bringing religion into things. I think that was the whole thing that set me off. So many commerical breeders talk about God, I think that is supposed to change ones perspective of things.. Yeah so and so talked about god.. That must mean they are a good person. Im going to buy a puppy from them sight unseen

[HanksMom]

Originally Posted by amr333

I THINK IT IS TIME FOR THIS THREAD TO BE CLOSED!!!

AGREED! I dont want you guys to keep getting more angry with each other.

[yorkieisme]

Originally Posted by amr333

I THINK IT IS TIME FOR THIS THREAD TO BE CLOSED!!!

This is nuts. I second you on this. I like this board but now it seems it has become a big mess. I do believe Mrs Coburn has a right to defend her self and she did it. Now allow people to buy if they want to.

I would not want a show baby or even show one because of stuff like this. Yikes scary stuff

[yorkiegirl2]

Originally Posted by Chrissy0277

Yeah close this thread.

Im so tired of people bringing religion into things. I think that was the whole thing that set me off. So many commerical breeders talk about God, I think that is supposed to change ones perspective of things.. Yeah so and so talked about god.. That must mean they are a good person. Im going to buy a puppy from them sight unseen

I'm glad you said this.
I feel the same way.
I had bad dealing with one of these types of breeders and let me tell you.
A person can be/claim to be religious and still not be an honest person.
IMO...Religion should not be used as a selling ploy.

[Sugar's Mom]

Feel free to review your breeder, groomer or vet. Please note, only post your PERSONAL experience with the breeder, groomer, or veterinarian. This is not a place for heresay or second-hand information. List positives and any negatives, and please let us know when you interacted with them. This forum is also only for Yorkie-related experiences with breeders, groomers, and vets.


I see that only one person, the original poster, has had PERSONAL experience with this breeder so these other posts shouldn't even be here according to the forum rules. While I can appreciate that everyone has an opinion, this forum is not the place for them unless you have had PERSONAL experience directly with the person being reviewed.

[tisheayorkies]

Come on people really..., just close the thread, you can think of me as you will and I am at peace with that. and people will always judge other people, because thats the sin in the flesh.
As far as religion is concernd, I made a statement of do not judge me, for I am not shame of GOD, so I will speak his name always. Regardless of the situation because he is my strength and with out him we are nothing. He has blessed all us with just life itself. Every morning you wake up, you are blessed with another minute of life.
I never use GOD to sell dogs, what is wrong with people who would even say something like that. The world is getting sicker by the day. I will never be ashamed of God, and I will speak his name always wherever I am. I do not care if it offends others, or if they do not believe, but I do, for I am not ashamed. His strength and my faith is what gets me through situations like this. And for people to just take their day and just search me out like a witch hunt, absouletly blows my mind. WOW!!!! is all I can say.
As for the statement of someone saying I think people are just crazy,... no the truth is I think some people are just ate up with sin, thats what I think... if you don't have something good to say, then don't speak at all. Dont make the world a more misserable place to live, take your day and do something nice, it will make you feel better.. And for the lady, she knows who she is, Did GOD not bless you with show dogs? and beautiful healthy yorkies? and you are shamed to say his name and thank him, and you just made a statement that ALL COMMERCIAL Breeders use GOD, I am not a commercial breeder, and once again you just put her self in a hat by saying ALL, you are so judgemental! really ALL of them do, do you know ALL OF THEM? Even though I do not agree with commerical breeding, I DONT put words out their like ALL of them, because I don't know any of them to say that, and who I am to judge them for what they do, I don't agree with it, but its not my place to judge them! and for all who says... oh here goes the religion thing and that his name set you off, WOW!!! hearing his name sets you off??? Lord have mersy on your soul lady.. all I can say is may GOD forgive you... BLESS YOU ALL and your fur babies...

[jencar98]

Originally Posted by Sugar's Mom

Feel free to review your breeder, groomer or vet. Please note, only post your PERSONAL experience with the breeder, groomer, or veterinarian. This is not a place for heresay or second-hand information. List positives and any negatives, and please let us know when you interacted with them. This forum is also only for Yorkie-related experiences with breeders, groomers, and vets.


I see that only one person, the original poster, has had PERSONAL experience with this breeder so these other posts shouldn't even be here according to the forum rules. While I can appreciate that everyone has an opinion, this forum is not the place for them unless you have had PERSONAL experience directly with the person being reviewed.

Dee I don't see where it says an opinion of a breeder can not be posted, in someone's review. An opinion is not heresay or second-hand information. Opinions can be formed by going to breeders sites and seeing what information is there, also with information that has been posted in the past on YT. If we are not allowed to give an opinion within someone's thread, where else should it be done? Or, are you saying opinions should never be given?

[jrsygal37]

Originally Posted by tisheayorkies

This is Tiffany Coburn, Alyssica Hicks in New Mexico has to be crazy, she bought this male about 6 yrs ago, he had a testicle that did not descend, I told Alyssica that the male only had one testicle, the other did not drop, she was informed before she every bought this male, I let her know everything up front, and she bred him anyways to females, she said she had one female and wanted a friend for her, not for breeding. Not only did she breed him once, not twice but many times! She is posting this on yorkie talk after i have not heard from her in 6 yrs! And she choice to breed him anyways. I also told her he had aggressive behavior towards females, she choice to still breed him, this could of been a hereditary trait, I did not breed this male, I bought him as a puppy, and sold him after a year because he was aggressive and did not drop. I had once accident when he breed a female, she had all females and we put them all in pet homes. No breeding rights. I then put him up for sale right away, with the facts that he was aggressive, had one testicle and was being sold as a pet, now she wants to blame me for her breeding him. Lady get a life. This is why we have backyard breeders, you just wanted to make money with him, when he was suppose to be a companion for your female. Please ignore this thread, maybe she just didn't have anything better to do after 6 yrs than to blame me for her breeding him instead of fixing him, i don't have time for this! Oh and i'm not suspended lady! call akc!

Not to jump in the middle of this but since it is an open forum I have to ask why it is you would sell a dog with one testicle and not have him nuetered first? I'm assuming he was older when he was sold. Usually, a male with this problem is nuetered for his own health as there is a high risk of cancer. Also, if you knew he was aggressive with females and you knew she wanted a friend for her female why wouldn't you just refuse to sell him? You say she just wanted to make money and that may be true in fact I'd say it is probably true but it seem that you too did not have this dog's best interest at heart either. Not taking sides infact I don't think either of you had this dog's best interest and that's a shame. Elaine

[yorkieisme]

Originally Posted by jrsygal37

Not to jump in the middle of this but since it is an open forum I have to ask why it is you would sell a dog with one testicle and not have him nuetered first? I'm assuming he was older when he was sold. Usually, a male with this problem is nuetered for his own health as there is a high risk of cancer. Also, if you knew he was aggressive with females and you knew she wanted a friend for her female why wouldn't you just refuse to sell him? You say she just wanted to make money and that may be true in fact I'd say it is probably true but it seem that you too did not have this dog's best interest at heart either. Not taking sides infact I don't think either of you had this dog's best interest and that's a shame. Elaine

I agree

[Sugar's Mom]

Originally Posted by jencar98

Dee I don't see where it says an opinion of a breeder can not be posted, in someone's review. An opinion is not heresay or second-hand information. Opinions can be formed by going to breeders sites and seeing what information is there, also with information that has been posted in the past on YT. If we are not allowed to give an opinion within someone's thread, where else should it be done? Or, are you saying opinions should never be given?

so we meet again. didn't I say, granted everyone has an opinion? If your opinion has to do with YOUR PERSONAL experience, then by all means it should count. i didn't make the rule. I just copied and pasted it and I think we can all read.