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Old 08-02-2008, 07:29 PM   #16
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IMHO I would have NEVER bought from a pet store in the first place. Most of them even "Hollywood" pet stores come from puppy mills. I would have found a reputable breeder. If you cannot resist to buy a pet store puppy, then don't go in one. The best thing that you can do is to WALK AWAY. There are so many rescues out there that need good homes and reputable breeders that are concerned about improving the breed. I am sorry for your loss.

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Old 08-02-2008, 08:55 PM   #17
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Let's get everything straight:

1.) Yes, of course I emailed a picture of Bennigan settled into his new home with his brother.
2.) When he ate chicken on his own, I was so happy because that was the first time he had eaten on his own. But eating a little baby food with chicken doesn't constitute a healthy puppy, as he quickly returned back to not eating.
3.) You told me you were having to force feed him, and that I would continue to have to do so until he was over 16 weeks old. He wasn't eating when you sent him home with us, you said that you all took turns taking him home and getting up in the middle of the night to syringe feed him.
4.) Yes, my vets originally thought it was pneumonia because of his breathing problem. The necropsy later showed it was due to the mineralization in his lungs from renal failure.
5.) I mailed a necropsy months ago and never got a response.
6.) I would never want another puppy from Millionaire Mutts. I have a puppy report showing that Bennigan's mom had given birth to another sick puppy, a year before Bennigan. The other puppy had Kennel Cough and a skin disorder where its hair falls out. Yet they still bred his mother. The other puppy was sold in a pet shop in FL. In my OPINION, this sounds like a puppy mill (as only a puppy mill would send puppies to pet stores in Las Vegas and Boca Raton, FL.)
LINK: http://www.petshoppuppies.com/report.asp?ID=73A1893

~Extra Details: Bennigan had been at the vet hospital for days before he died. They discharged him once, but when his condition worsened we rushed him back. He had been at the vet hospital overnight and stable, but there he went into shock and died.

I am posting the Colorado State University Necropsy.
As you can read in the necropsy:
Diagnosis:
Kidney: Renal dysplasia with metastatic mineralization.
Lung: Metastatic mineralization with atelectasis

"The degree of mineralization present within the lungs is severe enough to result in clinical dyspnea and respiratory distress and undoubtedly clinically mimicked pneumonia."

I am posting the necropsy so you can read for yourselves.

Information about Renal Failure (Taken from AKC.org)
"Renal dysplasia is a developmental or genetic defect of the kidneys. This makes it quite different from common forms of kidney disease which occur in adult or aged dogs and from other diseases and/or drugs which may cause inflammation of the kidneys and abnormal results on blood and urine tests of kidney function. Dogs affected with renal dysplasia have had an embryonic arrest in kidney development at some time around birth. The immature nephrons normally found in young puppies persist throughout life. Also, some nephron units do not develop and are replaced with fibrous tissue. There may be diffuse interstitial fibrosis in the cortex and medula, reduced numbers of glomeruli, dilated and hypoplastic tubules, and a variety of sizes of glomeruli. The disease is found most commonly in Shih Tzu and Lhasa Apsos, although it is also present, with less frequency, in several other breeds.

The disease usually progresses in three stages, each of which may have a variable and independent time course. Stage one is the silent destruction and loss of nephrons over a period of months and years in the absence of symptoms. Stage two occurs when approximately 30% of functioning nephrons remain and clinical symptoms (excessive thirst and volume of urine, weight loss, lack of vigor, and intermittent loss of appetite) are first obvious. This stage may persist for months or years. In the final stage, vomiting, weakness, dehydration, and severe debilitation are added to second stage symptoms, and death from renal failure (uremia) is the eventual outcome."


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Old 08-02-2008, 09:57 PM   #18
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sure, you do not buy puppies from a PM.

Thanks God, not too many stupid people around, who believe in it.

btw, I am not surpised that people with NO moral, who run pet stores, have same "moral" veterinars.

your vet seems like has a bad reputation

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First of all, I as well as alot of others believe you as I have my own eyes & feelings & when I see someone w/2 posts from "las vegas" I think we can all pretty much figure that out. I think that's terrible what you went through, also think about that poor mother sick having to have all those litters w/out being tended to, there are no winners-everybody but the greedy breeder loses.
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I have an email from the customer over a week after she took him home. She was raving about how great he was doing...eating on his own, playing, happy, healthy,she even sent a picture. The puppy was barely one pound. We showed her how to syringe feed him in the event he was stressed when he left us and wouldn't eat. WE NEVER told her to force feed him constantly, only if he wouldn't eat. You all know it is necessary to do if these tiny puppies won't eat, otherwise they could fall victim to hypoglycemia. She called the manager to tell her how wonderful he was doing and said she still will get up in the middle of the night to syringe feed him because she was paranoid and wanted to do it just in case. She is the one who told us originally that her vet said he had aspiration pneumonia. She was the one later screaming at us because she had caused him to die. All we asked for was a necropsy proving this puppy had the problem when we sold him or that it was a congenital issue and we told her we would replace her puppy. We never received the necropsy until two days ago. Our Vet, Dr. Elena Pederson of Advanced Care Animal hospital has reviewed it and we will be responding to the customer next week. WE DO NOT buy from puppy mills. Over half of our current puppies are from local breeders. Go ahead, spew venom about us, but we are not what she is portraying and I feel sorry for her.
mmutts....Since you seem to want people to respond to you - you said 1/2 of your current puppies come from local breeders..... so reading between the lies ...I mean LINES I take that to mean the other half come from puppy mills.

I also see your vet is a Celeb too - Declaw Hall of Shame - Stop Declawing Now!

I've searched my own vet numerous times and have never seen him starring on the internet with complaints. I can't believe you had such a tiny tiny puppy caged in a PET STORE. IF you were so worried about his health - why was he SOLD IN THE FIRST PLACE ?

oh shoot - I keep forgetting....3 grand.

Pet Store Sellers and Buyers = People Who Support Puppy Mills.
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To prevent anyone who has a pet store puppy from being offended ...when I said Pet store buyers support mills - I know many many people don't realize where 98% of Pet Stores get their puppies. So since this whole thread is about a Pet Store - for anyone who doesn't know - do your research ! Most all Pet Stores will 'say' they buy from local breeders....

Just type in 'Petland' or 'Pet Stores' in a search... and you'll see what a huge business this is. They can call themselves anything they want ...but 'Pet Stores' around the country are the Puppy Mills biggest customers.
It's sickening.
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To prevent anyone who has a pet store puppy from being offended ...when I said Pet store buyers support mills - I know many many people don't realize where 98% of Pet Stores get their puppies. So since this whole thread is about a Pet Store - for anyone who doesn't know - do your research ! Most all Pet Stores will 'say' they buy from local breeders....

Just type in 'Petland' or 'Pet Stores' in a search... and you'll see what a huge business this is. They can call themselves anything they want ...but 'Pet Stores' around the country are the Puppy Mills biggest customers.
It's sickening.
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BlondeYorkieMom, trust me, I believe you. Pet stores are just an extension of the horrific puppy mills that are heartless. Therefore, heartless applies to mmutts, owner of a pet store that gets their puppies from "local breeders," i.e puppy mills. Can't believe that she comes on here and even begins to think that YTers are so uneducated as to believe she sold a healthy puppy out of a pet store when the op has written proof. Great odds against that!!!!! Joanne
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BlondeYorkieMom, trust me, I believe you. Pet stores are just an extension of the horrific puppy mills that are heartless. Therefore, heartless applies to mmutts, owner of a pet store that gets their puppies from "local breeders," i.e puppy mills. Can't believe that she comes on here and even begins to think that YTers are so uneducated as to believe she sold a healthy puppy out of a pet store when the op has written proof. Great odds against that!!!!! Joanne
Well the part that gets me is selling a tiny yorkie under a pound to begin with.. yes for money and big money to...and we all know a puppy at 8 weeks old should never be sold to begin with.. and then to tell any person they need to use a syringe to feed..whether it be due to them not eating or what ever the excuse is,..anyone knowing anything at all.. the seller would never in this world sell a puppy that small that is not eating on his/her own to begin with.. so do not ever try to explain any of the crap to me..and any breeder that would sell to a pet store at that age.. is in this for money only hence puppy mill !!!!!!!
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Well the part that gets me is selling a tiny yorkie under a pound to begin with.. yes for money and big money to...and we all know a puppy at 8 weeks old should never be sold to begin with.. and then to tell any person they need to use a syringe to feed..whether it be due to them not eating or what ever the excuse is,..anyone knowing anything at all.. the seller would never in this world sell a puppy that small that is not eating on his/her own to begin with.. so do not ever try to explain any of the crap to me..and any breeder that would sell to a pet store at that age.. is in this for money only hence puppy mill !!!!!!!



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Well the part that gets me is selling a tiny yorkie under a pound to begin with.. yes for money and big money to...and we all know a puppy at 8 weeks old should never be sold to begin with.. and then to tell any person they need to use a syringe to feed..whether it be due to them not eating or what ever the excuse is,..anyone knowing anything at all.. the seller would never in this world sell a puppy that small that is not eating on his/her own to begin with.. so do not ever try to explain any of the crap to me..and any breeder that would sell to a pet store at that age.. is in this for money only hence puppy mill !!!!!!!
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sure, you do not buy puppies from a PM.

Thanks God, not too many stupid people around, who believe in it.

btw, I am not surpised that people with NO moral, who run pet stores, have same "moral" veterinars.

your vet seems like has a bad reputation

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my post was the answer to PET STORE OWNER, of course.

I feel sorry for the buyer, I hope it will be a lesson for her.

NEVER EVER BUY ANY PET IN PET STORE.

people who sell puppies in pet store don't have ANY moral. they never tell you the truth, NEVER trust them.

They always tell: from a local breeders. you have to understand: that means from LOCAL puppy mills and back yard breeders, because no one reputable breeder will never ever give their pups to pet store. Never.

Just imagine, HOW a good person can do that?
Read more about puppy mill, particularly how they get puppies at wholesale, where, how they transfer them (in most cases, when they receive puppies, always some are dead already)and you will understand what I mean.

People who love animals just cannot do that....
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I have an email from the customer over a week after she took him home. She was raving about how great he was doing...eating on his own, playing, happy, healthy,she even sent a picture. The puppy was barely one pound. We showed her how to syringe feed him in the event he was stressed when he left us and wouldn't eat. WE NEVER told her to force feed him constantly, only if he wouldn't eat. You all know it is necessary to do if these tiny puppies won't eat, otherwise they could fall victim to hypoglycemia. She called the manager to tell her how wonderful he was doing and said she still will get up in the middle of the night to syringe feed him because she was paranoid and wanted to do it just in case. She is the one who told us originally that her vet said he had aspiration pneumonia. She was the one later screaming at us because she had caused him to die. All we asked for was a necropsy proving this puppy had the problem when we sold him or that it was a congenital issue and we told her we would replace her puppy. We never received the necropsy until two days ago. Our Vet, Dr. Elena Pederson of Advanced Care Animal hospital has reviewed it and we will be responding to the customer next week. WE DO NOT buy from puppy mills. Over half of our current puppies are from local breeders. Go ahead, spew venom about us, but we are not what she is portraying and I feel sorry for her.
If half of the puppies come from local breeders where do the other half come from?
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This woman is spewing lies and half-truths in order to alleviate her own responsibility for the death of this puppy that left our care HEALTHY. The autopsy proved it. We are heartbroken about his death, but we will not be intimidated by her slanderous attempts to extort money from us. Please use common sense and come see for yourself.
IF YOU AND YOUR PUPPY MILL SUPPORTING "BUSINESS" HAD ANY COMMON SENCE WHAT-SO-EVER, YOU WOULD NOT BE SELLING A PUPPY THAT WAS 10 WEEKS OLD, LESS THAN A POUND AND THAT HAD TO BE FED BY A SHRING!! GET REAL, YOU KNOW YOU ARE ONLY "IN IT" FOR THE GRAND $$$ AT THE PUPPIES EXPENSE!! A " HEALTHY" PUPPY DOES NOT HAVE TO BE HAND FED!
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MMutts...I feel certain that you are upset. Upset that you ran across this review while doing a Google search. Upset that you picked a puppy owner you couldn't keep quiet. And now you're upset because our members are asking you some hard questions. Where are you now? Why aren't you answering these questions?
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