how should i tell this one breeder that i don't wanna buy her puppy anymore? - Page 2 - YorkieTalk.com Forums

kalina82 · 10-04-2007, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by dani23d

Can you guess which one he is? He was born on Monday, September 24. He is 1 week and 3 days old today! He is the smallest of the litter of five (three boys, two girls)! He weighed 3/4 of an ounce! He is going to be super small. I wonder how many pounds he'll weigh as an adult!
Anyway, I almost teared up when the breeder sent me this picture. I can't wait to be a dog momma!!!

congrats on picking out your new puppy!

i can't believe he's 3/4 of an ounce? is that right?

that's friggin small, omg i'd be so worried. My morgan was 2.5 ounces when born and i thought THAT was small. good luck, you must be so excited. can't wait to see all your updates and pictures on the little boy

love_me_cody · 10-04-2007, 05:47 PM

i think it was 3/4 of an ounce when born... they all are so cute!!

Fancy · 10-04-2007, 05:50 PM

I 'm a breeder, and I'm against selling a puppy that is as young as these are. I don't think a good breeder would put their puppies up for sale untill they are at least 6 weeks old. Too much can happen between 1 week and 6 weeks of age, especially to the smalles of the litter. It's like putting Meat on a platter.
I like to weigh my babies each week, take time to let them be a baby. You can't really tell a thing about what they will look like any way. If I would place a deposit on the smallest, it would probably die, Momma could lay on it, or it may turn out the biggest of the litter. Just isn't a good policy. Besides there is such a danger of the smallest one not being the healthy one, then somone could get up set, and disappointed.

dani23d · 10-05-2007, 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Fancy

I 'm a breeder, and I'm against selling a puppy that is as young as these are. I don't think a good breeder would put their puppies up for sale untill they are at least 6 weeks old. Too much can happen between 1 week and 6 weeks of age, especially to the smalles of the litter. It's like putting Meat on a platter.
I like to weigh my babies each week, take time to let them be a baby. You can't really tell a thing about what they will look like any way. If I would place a deposit on the smallest, it would probably die, Momma could lay on it, or it may turn out the biggest of the litter. Just isn't a good policy. Besides there is such a danger of the smallest one not being the healthy one, then somone could get up set, and disappointed.

I had no idea. This is crazy. What should I do? I haven't yet put a deposit, but am wondering when I would be sure? Not that I would completely reject the puppy because he's the runt. But I'm not getting a lot of good feedback overall.

dani23d · 10-05-2007, 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by dbeach

Did I read that wrong..does he weigh three quarters of an ounce?? or 3.4 oz??

Debbie

Hi, I looked back at my email from the breeder and this is what it says:

"Hi Dani,
Wow! Im exhausted as well as mom! 5 Puppies.
This is unusually large litter considering the Mom is 4.5 lbs! I will keep you updated as they grow, Eyes open at 12-14 days, crawling by 4 weeks, running by 5 weeks
He will be Ready around Christmas Eve, if this is Too soon for you, we will hold on to him until you are ready
They are all suckling Mom , all seem quite Healthy
largest pup weight 2 oz , smallest 3/4 of an oz.

Enjoy
XXXXXXXXX"

Is 3/4 of an ounce unusually abnormal?!

dani23d · 10-05-2007, 08:08 AM

I am getting frustrated. Can anyone please help me? Should I go back to the original breeder? She is seems more reputable to me now

CollegeCutieUSF · 10-05-2007, 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Fancy

I 'm a breeder, and I'm against selling a puppy that is as young as these are. I don't think a good breeder would put their puppies up for sale untill they are at least 6 weeks old. Too much can happen between 1 week and 6 weeks of age, especially to the smalles of the litter. It's like putting Meat on a platter.
I like to weigh my babies each week, take time to let them be a baby. You can't really tell a thing about what they will look like any way. If I would place a deposit on the smallest, it would probably die, Momma could lay on it, or it may turn out the biggest of the litter. Just isn't a good policy. Besides there is such a danger of the smallest one not being the healthy one, then somone could get up set, and disappointed.

I know of a lot of breeders that list their puppies for sale from very tiny (just a week or so old), just so they get deposits on the pups, but don't actually give them pups out until they're 8 weeks. I see ads in the paper all the time for people advertising litters that won't be ready for a month or more.

dbeach · 10-05-2007, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by dani23d

Hi, I looked back at my email from the breeder and this is what it says:

"Hi Dani,
Wow! Im exhausted as well as mom! 5 Puppies.
This is unusually large litter considering the Mom is 4.5 lbs! I will keep you updated as they grow, Eyes open at 12-14 days, crawling by 4 weeks, running by 5 weeks
He will be Ready around Christmas Eve, if this is Too soon for you, we will hold on to him until you are ready
They are all suckling Mom , all seem quite Healthy
largest pup weight 2 oz , smallest 3/4 of an oz.

Enjoy
XXXXXXXXX"

Is 3/4 of an ounce unusually abnormal?!

My female's weight was 5lbs. before getting pregnant...she delivered 6 puppies, delivered on approximately day 60/61 and her puppies weighed between 3.4oz. to 5.2 oz. The stud was 3.5lbs.

So, yes, I would say that a puppy that only weighs 3/4 oz. is definitely very, very small. I am not saying there will be anything wrong with the puppy, just be cautious and watch it's development.

Debbie

dani23d · 10-05-2007, 08:17 AM

Here's my story: I posted in a KiJiJi ad that I was looking for a Yorkshire Terrier in December. This one lady emailed me and said she has a litter coming that will be ready to go to new homes in December.

A couple weeks later (September 24), she emailed me and said the litter was born! I was so happy. So I knew about the puppies before they were even born. That's why I knew about them at such a young age. But I was aware that the puppies won't be ready to go until December 24, she says. So she's still giving 12 weeks with the mom, which is good.

She owns a full fledged farm in the countryside and breeds Yorkies for sale to pet owners only (non-breeding contract).

She sounds legit to me. Do you think I could still ask to put a deposit on one of the other males if they're not taken yet? Or should I keep looking around?

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Originally Posted by CollegeCutieUSF

I know of a lot of breeders that list their puppies for sale from very tiny (just a week or so old), just so they get deposits on the pups, but don't actually give them pups out until they're 8 weeks. I see ads in the paper all the time for people advertising litters that won't be ready for a month or more.

dani23d · 10-05-2007, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by dbeach

My female's weight was 5lbs. before getting pregnant...she delivered 6 puppies, delivered on approximately day 60/61 and her puppies weighed between 3.4oz. to 5.2 oz. The stud was 3.5lbs.

So, yes, I would say that a puppy that only weighs 3/4 oz. is definitely very, very small. I am not saying there will be anything wrong with the puppy, just be cautious and watch it's development.

Debbie

Yes, I will watch the boy's development. Actually, she has been kind enough to agree to take pictures of him every single week until I have him, so that's quite nice of her. But I don't want to lead her on if I'm still not too sure.

Have you sold puppies before? Are you a breeder? Back to my original message: I would feel badly if I had to turn her down too! I don't want to take it too far. Should I stay faithful to her and keep watching his development? Looking forward to your advice!

dani23d · 10-05-2007, 08:58 AM

Anyone have general advice/feedback?

myjordash · 10-05-2007, 09:01 AM

I have a litter right now, and I couldn't imagine a pup being 3/4 oz. I mean...has ANY breeder had a pup that small?!?1? I can't imagine, the health issues that would probably go along with a pup so small....I just can't say I would have confidence in that. I also would NOT take a deposit on a pup that was only a week old. I would say that you can keep in touch, and watch the development, and then MAYBE when the pup is older, BIGGER, and stronger, if you would like to leave a deposit....then make arrangements with the breeder. I just find it VERY hard to believe that their pups are THAT tiny....I mean, 3/4 oz, is nuts. Maybe other more experienced breeders will have a better idea.

dani23d · 10-05-2007, 09:09 AM

I feel somewhat pressured because out of the three boys, she said that one is already on hold (was given a deposit the DAY they were born). So now I don't really want the runt, especially if he was too small at birth. In all actuality, size doesn't matter. I just want it to be healthy and fits my personality like someone else mentioned in this thread.

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Originally Posted by myjordash

I have a litter right now, and I couldn't imagine a pup being 3/4 oz. I mean...has ANY breeder had a pup that small?!?1? I can't imagine, the health issues that would probably go along with a pup so small....I just can't say I would have confidence in that. I also would NOT take a deposit on a pup that was only a week old. I would say that you can keep in touch, and watch the development, and then MAYBE when the pup is older, BIGGER, and stronger, if you would like to leave a deposit....then make arrangements with the breeder. I just find it VERY hard to believe that their pups are THAT tiny....I mean, 3/4 oz, is nuts. Maybe other more experienced breeders will have a better idea.

Nikki+2 · 10-05-2007, 12:10 PM

I am not a breeder and I'm sure not an expert but just to give you an idea of the weight thing- the current world's smallest dog was 1.5 ozs at birth. I feel like the breeder must have made a typo or something. If it's true, I would run as fast as I could. That would be a very special needs dog. If you choose not to buy from this breeder I am sure you would find an excellent one right here at YT. Good luck!

Nikki+2 · 10-05-2007, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by dani23d

I feel somewhat pressured because out of the three boys, she said that one is already on hold (was given a deposit the DAY they were born). So now I don't really want the runt, especially if he was too small at birth. In all actuality, size doesn't matter. I just want it to be healthy and fits my personality like someone else mentioned in this thread.

Oh and p.s.

You should not feel any pressure at the very young age the pups are. Only you know what feels right for you but that would be a warning sign to me.

10-04-2007, 05:50 PM	#18
Fancy Yorkie Yakker Join Date: May 2007 Location: Ms Posts: 64	New Baby for sale I 'm a breeder, and I'm against selling a puppy that is as young as these are. I don't think a good breeder would put their puppies up for sale untill they are at least 6 weeks old. Too much can happen between 1 week and 6 weeks of age, especially to the smalles of the litter. It's like putting Meat on a platter. I like to weigh my babies each week, take time to let them be a baby. You can't really tell a thing about what they will look like any way. If I would place a deposit on the smallest, it would probably die, Momma could lay on it, or it may turn out the biggest of the litter. Just isn't a good policy. Besides there is such a danger of the smallest one not being the healthy one, then somone could get up set, and disappointed.

10-05-2007, 12:10 PM	#29
Nikki+2 I heart Sugar Donating Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Florida Posts: 6,244	I am not a breeder and I'm sure not an expert but just to give you an idea of the weight thing- the current world's smallest dog was 1.5 ozs at birth. I feel like the breeder must have made a typo or something. If it's true, I would run as fast as I could. That would be a very special needs dog. If you choose not to buy from this breeder I am sure you would find an excellent one right here at YT. Good luck! __________________ The worst sin towards our fellow creatures is not to hate them, but to be indifferent to them, that’s the essence of inhumanity. George Bernard Shaw

10-04-2007, 05:47 PM	#17
love_me_cody YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 1,715 Blog Entries: 2	i think it was 3/4 of an ounce when born... they all are so cute!!

10-05-2007, 08:08 AM	#21
dani23d YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 559	I am getting frustrated. Can anyone please help me? Should I go back to the original breeder? She is seems more reputable to me now

10-05-2007, 08:58 AM	#26
dani23d YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 559	Anyone have general advice/feedback?

10-05-2007, 09:01 AM	#27
myjordash YT Addict Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: West Palm Beach, Florida Posts: 258	I have a litter right now, and I couldn't imagine a pup being 3/4 oz. I mean...has ANY breeder had a pup that small?!?1? I can't imagine, the health issues that would probably go along with a pup so small....I just can't say I would have confidence in that. I also would NOT take a deposit on a pup that was only a week old. I would say that you can keep in touch, and watch the development, and then MAYBE when the pup is older, BIGGER, and stronger, if you would like to leave a deposit....then make arrangements with the breeder. I just find it VERY hard to believe that their pups are THAT tiny....I mean, 3/4 oz, is nuts. Maybe other more experienced breeders will have a better idea.