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Mardelin · 10-09-2007, 03:25 PM

Eyes open at one week of age.....I know some very experienced breeders, decades and decades of breeding and exhibiting... 15 days is the average, give or take a day or two.

8 weeks of age is a bit young to place a pup...they are just being weaned and mom has just begun potty training and socializing...

Sharonandtink · 10-09-2007, 03:25 PM

Need more pictures.

MorkieAZ · 10-09-2007, 03:52 PM

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Need more pictures.

Yes please, more pics, I for one would love to see this little miracle.

ryorkies · 10-09-2007, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by CaLiFoRnIaBaBy6

Gypsy gave birth to two puppies, two boys. Boy #1 born at 9:53 AM and Boy #2 born at 10:31 AM. Mother and pups are doing great!

Did I miss something on this thread? I see two puppies born here, but in the most recent post there are 4?

Congratulations !!!

BamaFan121s · 10-09-2007, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by CaLiFoRnIaBaBy6

Hello, I've been breeding these dogs for a long time and I've always placed them at 8 to 10 weeks. The dogs have been socialized from the second they have been born! I have two kids, Olivia and Tommy. They pick them up (with my supervision or my husband Nick's) and my friends have been holding them.

They're going to be fully socialized by eight weeks! It is up to the owner to house train a dog, not the mom!

I in no way meant to offend you and really had no clue how long you'd been breeding. I actually, for some reason, thought this was your first litter and was making an honest suggestion that many are unaware of... I am sorry if it was misundstood.
You will find that many experienced, respected breeders disagree with placing them that young. Likewise, not sure I would be letting children and all my friends handle week old pups, but again, that's just ME. However, there is a big difference between 'house training' and 'socializing'--not sure I understand that part...?

I think that when 'socializing' was mentioned, it was in reference to social skills that pups obtain from interacting with their littermates...something that human contact is no substituion for.
If your experience has proven otherwise to you, then that is great!

Mardelin · 10-09-2007, 04:23 PM

8 weeks is much to young to let a puppy go. They are just being weaned (I let my dams call the shots there). From the age of 8 weeks on the dams do so much with their puppies.....I do what is best for the puppy not the client..

I do not let puppies go home at Christmas. These are toy dogs.....Christmas is much too busy of a time....guests coming in and out of the house, a puppy can escape.....puppies stepped on, hyperglycemic...being a busy time...you can forget they need rest and food.

It is my responsibility to insure puppies go home house trained....and very socialized.....no, it isn't unrealistic......

BamaFan121s · 10-09-2007, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Mardelin

I do what is best for the puppy not the client..

AMEN! I would *hope* that this would be the main concern of anyone who considers themselves a 'breeder.' But sadly, I know that is not always the case.

Of course, I would expect as much from you Mary, given your many years of dedication breeding.

MorkieAZ · 10-09-2007, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ryorkies

Did I miss something on this thread? I see two puppies born here, but in the most recent post there are 4?

Congratulations !!!

You are correct, I see 4 too. At the beginning of the thread there was 2 then a girl was added, now 4 in the pic.

ryorkies · 10-09-2007, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by MorkieAZ

You are correct, I see 4 too. At the beginning of the thread there was 2 then a girl was added, now 4 in the pic.

Oh thank goodness... I know I am a bit sleep deprived, but I was beginning to wonder just how much. LOL

tegamom1 · 10-09-2007, 04:50 PM

Yep, 2 then the water broke, then 2 more?? Is that what happened? Eyes open at a week? This seems all just a little strange. I too in all my long years have never heard of that happening, guess stranger things have happen...

I also totally agree with all who have said Yorkie puppies should not be sold at 8 weeks if you honestly care about the puppies and their well being. The things their mother can give them and teach them is invaluable. I sincerely hope you reconsider.

feminvstr · 10-09-2007, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by CaLiFoRnIaBaBy6

Here they are! enjoy. Chloe is the girl and my favorite. Tuffy is sold but not going anywhere and Piper isn't sold. I really wanna keep Chloe but I have four dogs already....

oops mistake

MorkieAZ · 10-09-2007, 05:21 PM

Ok guys, what the heck is going on here...do we have a troll in our midst?

Sharonandtink · 10-09-2007, 05:23 PM

I am so confused. How many puppies are there?

Sugar's Mom · 10-09-2007, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by MorkieAZ

Ok guys, what the heck is going on here...do we have a troll in our midst?

Not sure if it's a troll or just a youngster playing us. Notice the way her username is. Upper case and lower case. That is the latest thing for preteens and younger when they get on the internet. i think we have a child here or at least a very young person. i was wondering how long it would take you guys to catch on that the eyes opened at about four or five days. plus, a few more things.

BamaFan121s · 10-09-2007, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by MorkieAZ

Ok guys, what the heck is going on here...do we have a troll in our midst?

If so, I feel really ignorant for falling for it.

But something does sound 'off.'

10-09-2007, 03:25 PM	#16
Mardelin YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: California Posts: 4,037	Eyes open at one week of age.....I know some very experienced breeders, decades and decades of breeding and exhibiting... 15 days is the average, give or take a day or two. 8 weeks of age is a bit young to place a pup...they are just being weaned and mom has just begun potty training and socializing... __________________ Mardelin *Yorkshire* *Terriers*

10-09-2007, 03:25 PM	#17
Sharonandtink Proud Alaskan Grandma! Donating Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Anchorage, Alaska Posts: 1,154	Need more pictures. __________________ Sharon Paul RIP:Tinkerbell- Sept 1, 2004-Apr 23, 2008 Delilah Please Strive To Be A Positive Poster!!!

10-09-2007, 04:23 PM	#21
Mardelin YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: California Posts: 4,037	8 weeks is much to young to let a puppy go. They are just being weaned (I let my dams call the shots there). From the age of 8 weeks on the dams do so much with their puppies.....I do what is best for the puppy not the client.. I do not let puppies go home at Christmas. These are toy dogs.....Christmas is much too busy of a time....guests coming in and out of the house, a puppy can escape.....puppies stepped on, hyperglycemic...being a busy time...you can forget they need rest and food. It is my responsibility to insure puppies go home house trained....and very socialized.....no, it isn't unrealistic...... __________________ Mardelin *Yorkshire* *Terriers*

10-09-2007, 04:50 PM	#25
tegamom1 Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Lubbock, Texas Posts: 761	Yep, 2 then the water broke, then 2 more?? Is that what happened? Eyes open at a week? This seems all just a little strange. I too in all my long years have never heard of that happening, guess stranger things have happen... I also totally agree with all who have said Yorkie puppies should not be sold at 8 weeks if you honestly care about the puppies and their well being. The things their mother can give them and teach them is invaluable. I sincerely hope you reconsider. __________________ Mary Ann A'Lea Yorkshire Terriers

10-09-2007, 05:23 PM	#28
Sharonandtink Proud Alaskan Grandma! Donating Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Anchorage, Alaska Posts: 1,154	I am so confused. How many puppies are there? __________________ Sharon Paul RIP:Tinkerbell- Sept 1, 2004-Apr 23, 2008 Delilah Please Strive To Be A Positive Poster!!!

10-09-2007, 05:21 PM	#27
MorkieAZ Inactive Account Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Arizona Posts: 1,276	Ok guys, what the heck is going on here...do we have a troll in our midst?