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Old 08-15-2007, 10:20 AM   #1
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Default can pups with umbilical/abdominal hernias be bred?

I've seen the puppy since it was born on day one and a lump around her vaginal area never appeared until a month later. I'm unsure if this is an umbilical or abdominal hernia...but I can confirm that if I touch it, she won't squirm and I can also push it back it, although it falls out every morning. It's soft, so I assume it's reducible.

I do plan on breeding her sometime in the future, but i'm not sure if it's safe since i read somewhere that puppies can actually fall out from where the hernia is. She's 3 months at the moment.
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Old 08-15-2007, 11:01 AM   #2
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If it's in her vaginal area, it's not an umbilical hernia. Sounds more like an abdominal hernia if it in the space between her tummy and vagina. I wouldn't breed her if she was mine. Abdominal hernias can be genetic.
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Old 08-15-2007, 11:37 AM   #3
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It is called an inguinal hernia..and at 12 weeks it qutie likely to recede by breeding age..if not have it repaired.
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if it is down that low and off to the side near the groin , it is an inguinal hernia. yes, you can push those back in usually and sometimes they grow together on there own. sometimes they come out and you cannot push it back in. this can rupture and will require immediate surgery but as long as you can push it back in you can wait awhile and see if it goes together. Pick her up several times a day and if it is out, push it back in. Some people have bred them after they have surgery or it gets well. Vets usually recommend against it. i just sold a girl on limited registration because of this.
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in certain breeds like shih-tzus and english bull dogs, it is heritary but i never heard of it being prone to yorkies. i would take the advise of the above post since they are experienced breeders
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in certain breeds like shih-tzus and english bull dogs, it is heritary but i never heard of it being prone to yorkies. i would take the advise of the above post since they are experienced breeders
I don't have as much experience as the above breeders but I can share an experience that I have had with inguinal hernias. I had a male(his first time breeding) that I bred to two proven females who had never had puppies with inguinal hernias. BOTH litters had inguinal hernias. Seems like it's genetic to me. Along with talking to an experienced show/breeder(over 30 yrs experience) that said it is genetic and if both parents carry the gene, then you get the hernias.

I guess I should have said that inguinal hernias can be genetic.

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I'd ask your vet it it's hereditary, and if it was I wouldn't breed.
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even if it is hereditary, is it really dangerous? we don't plan on selling the puppies, just keeping it within friends and family if having a "defect" may be an issue for some people.

to put it bluntly, my main concern is that my puppy might actually die if she is bred. my vet only mentioned that it may be hereditary but other than that he just kept on pushing me to get her stitched up and asking if i had the money.
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I have never heard of a bitch dying during or after whelping due to a hernia of any sort. The pups are inside the uterus and since most hernia's are about the size of a small to large grape, I do not see how is possible to pop through it, but I am open to hearing about any who have...
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YorkieRose--Do you think that since she describes the lump as being around the vaginal area that it could be a perineal hernia?
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Now I remember buying a little female a couple of years back...has it been that long ...anywho, I mentioned her abdominal, inguinal, whatever type of hernia and was advised by several on this board to not breed her because it was hereditary. Of course, she had other issues as well...but I've always thought they were hereditary and therefore shouldn't be passed on to future pups.

Easy to fix...just a couple of stitches...so I've been told.
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my vet said, could be or could not be heridtory. How about that for an answer.
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That's a "no commitment" response. LOL!
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Remi had one of these small hernias. My vet said that hers was caused by a bit of fat escaping through where the males (if she had been a male, they start out the same) testes would have decended through. Hers is not hereditary, just kind of a fluck. Since hers closed up by 3 monthes old she required no surgery.
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even if it is hereditary, is it really dangerous? we don't plan on selling the puppies, just keeping it within friends and family if having a "defect" may be an issue for some people.
Yes, it is dangerous. Although dogs can live perfectly healthy lives with them and they can be repaired in some cases, hernias can also cause serious complications. I had 2 dogs with umbilical hernias...both of whom died very early on in life as a result. In my opinion, if you know that breeding could pass the condition on, then you shouldn't do it.
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