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Old 06-23-2007, 10:48 AM   #1
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Hi,

For those of you who have had Yorkie puppies, that you sold, have any of you have done the registration before the pups were given to their new owners?

The AKC sent me this info when I registered the litter:

AKC is pleased to announce a new registration option for breeders, Full Litter Offspring Registration. If you are interested in registering all the puppies in this litter to yourself, the fee is only $10 per puppy, a 50% savings off the cost of a traditional dog registration. In addition to the savings, this option also provides you with 1) a way to quickly register all the puppies to yourself, 2) more control over data provided during the registration process, including the ability to select the names of each puppy, 3) the option to purchase discounted pedigrees, and 4) the ability to transfer already-registered puppies to your new owners, a tremendous additional value.

The one problem I see is that the new owners may want to have the registration name of the puppy one that they prefer, even if it saves them a bit of money and they already have the AKC registration.

What do you think?

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I agree if you register the pup in your name first...
then transfer to the new owners.. they would not be able to give the pup the name they choose.
If I were to buy a new pup, I would like to be able to name him/her myself.
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Me too! I would be very disappointed if the puppy I got was already named and registered with the AKC.
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i registered my last litter this way. not the babies i have now but Frankie's four wee ones. reason being, you cannot register a kennel name with AKC unless you show. Out of the five from my kandy's litter, three of them were show prospects according to the AKC judges. i know that's unusual for that many out of the same litter but you all read the judges comments here. AND, my very first puppy from my Southern Showgirl Silk is already in shows. haven't heard how's she is doing for awhile. What was happening was that my puppies were in the show ring (some of them) with no credit being given to me. i called AKC and was told that the only way my kennel could get the recognition was if i do a full registration with my name, Dee's Lil' as a name prefix. Now, i didn't register these last two that way because they are not from show stock on either side. not close enough to count anyway. show "prospects' are what you make of them but i wanted my name out there just in case. it wasn't a problem with any of my buyers. For future reference for anyone thinking of buying from a show breeder, you WILL use their name as a prefix regardless of what you name the puppy and i believe in Canada, the breeder has to do a full litter registration to sell the puppies.

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Love YT! You definitely learn something new all the time!

I'm so far removed from the world of show dogs that I didn't know this but it makes perfect sense for show quality pups and serious show breeders.

Thanks for the info!
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Love YT! You definitely learn something new all the time!

I'm so far removed from the world of show dogs that I didn't know this but it makes perfect sense for show quality pups and serious show breeders.

Thanks for the info!
i was just fortunate enough the first time to purchase a retired showgirl to get me started. had one little puppy then spayed her because of her difficult pregnancy. Then, i was fortunate again to purchase Frankie and Kandy, who come from a long line of champions, from a show breeder/exhibitor who was downsizing due to disability. So I have been blessed. i know nothing at all about showing and am not even remotely interested in it but would like to see something with Dee's Lil as part of it's name if one of my babies ever wins anything. that would be so cool!!!!!!!!! besides, the dog's "call name" can be anything the new owner wants it to be.

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i registered my last litter this way. not the babies i have now but Frankie's four wee ones. reason being, you cannot register a kennel name with AKC unless you show. Out of the five from my kandy's litter, three of them were show prospects according to the AKC judges. i know that's unusual for that many out of the same litter but you all read the judges comments here. AND, my very first puppy from my Southern Showgirl Silk is already in shows. haven't heard how's she is doing for awhile. What was happening was that my puppies were in the show ring (some of them) with no credit being given to me. i called AKC and was told that the only way my kennel could get the recognition was if i do a full registration with my name, Dee's Lil' as a name prefix. Now, i didn't register these last two that way because they are not from show stock on either side. not close enough to count anyway. show "prospects' are what you make of them but i wanted my name out there just in case. it wasn't a problem with any of my buyers. For future reference for anyone thinking of buying from a show breeder, you WILL use their name as a prefix regardless of what you name the puppy and i believe in Canada, the breeder has to do a full litter registration to sell the puppies.

Wow! Dee that's wonderful, what show did you take them to to have the pups evaluated and at what age? Do you remember the AKC judge that evaluated them.

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Me too! I would be very disappointed if the puppy I got was already named and registered with the AKC.
Allowing new families to register the pups has not been a problem for me. They've always asked if they can use my kennel name. But, since my pups go out on a spay nueter contract and it's unimportant to me unless in some rare instance they've obtained a show dog from me. Then it isn't a problem, since exhibitors know that when registering a dog the breeder's Kennel name is always used when registering the dog. Exhibitors also know that breeders have a theme with some of their lines and usually follow that theme. Like my Charmer "Champion This Time I'm Here Let's Party. His son, CJ (Charmer Junior) who is about to go in the show ring was registered as "Mardelin's Let's Party Again". If a female had of been obtained, they would have followed after the dam "Champion This Time Worth The Wait/Go-Go

Another instance is my Denny "Champion This Time Grand Slam. His dad was Champion Tajmoor's Major League, and his grandsire was Champion This Time Junior League. His brother now a champion was registered as This Time Triple Play
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Wow! Dee that's wonderful, what show did you take them to to have the pups evaluated and at what age? Do you remember the AKC judge that evaluated them.

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Mardelin, here is the link to the one that is already showing UKC I think unless she has dropped out

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Do you remember that contest from Newsday.com that someone posted on here last fall? it was just for fun. A few of us sent our pictures in face shot, side shot and stacked and the AKC judge evaluated them and gave us their opinion. I have a thread on here somewhere titled "What the AKC judge had to say." They all got high marks from the judges. i do remember that one of the last ones, I think it was the judge that evaluated the one I have held back for me, was the older, tall, thin gray haired lady. it told her name under her comments. I was so excited because you know as well as I do, i just kind of fell into this and didn't even realize the quality of the females I was buying or anything else at the time. it has been a learning process for me. It's too bad I live in such a rural area of Kentucky. I have always said I have no interest in showing at all and i don't really think I do but I have the prettiest gal that is seven months old now that i believe has what it takes. She is the one the AKC lady judge commented on. They made remarks about, color ears, top line and etc. it was so much fun at the time. i also know that if the people that got them don't work with them, they will never amount to anything. A show dog is what you make it. (if it has the looks to start with).
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Neat, so the judge evaluated from a photo.

You're right, given that you have the right stuff to start with. Bloodlines, structure, health, temprement, attitude......show dogs are born but, must be molded.

That is amazing....since my stock are all Champions and come from 10 generations of Champions and lucky to have 1 pup in 6 litters that I myself would deem show quality and take into the ring myself. Although, one of my Champion studs has 2 offspring kicking butt in the ring right now and one coming out in August and 2 more right behind him. He's throwing amazing pups, but then his sire throws gorgeous pups too and his grandsire Johnnie Handsome sired over 60+ in the states alone.
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Mardelin, here is the link to the one that is already showing UKC I think unless she has dropped out

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/sho...ight=sugar%27s

Do you remember that contest from Newsday.com that someone posted on here last fall? it was just for fun. A few of us sent our pictures in face shot, side shot and stacked and the AKC judge evaluated them and gave us their opinion. I have a thread on here somewhere titled "What the AKC judge had to say." They all got high marks from the judges. i do remember that one of the last ones, I think it was the judge that evaluated the one I have held back for me, was the older, tall, thin gray haired lady. it told her name under her comments. I was so excited because you know as well as I do, i just kind of fell into this and didn't even realize the quality of the females I was buying or anything else at the time. it has been a learning process for me. It's too bad I live in such a rural area of Kentucky. I have always said I have no interest in showing at all and i don't really think I do but I have the prettiest gal that is seven months old now that i believe has what it takes. She is the one the AKC lady judge commented on. They made remarks about, color ears, top line and etc. it was so much fun at the time. i also know that if the people that got them don't work with them, they will never amount to anything. A show dog is what you make it. (if it has the looks to start with).
Too bad if she dropped out.
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Neat, so the judge evaluated from a photo.

You're right, given that you have the right stuff to start with. Bloodlines, structure, health, temprement, attitude......show dogs are born but, must be molded.

That is amazing....since my stock are all Champions and come from 10 generations of Champions and lucky to have 1 pup in 6 litters that I myself would deem show quality and take into the ring myself. Although, one of my Champion studs has 2 offspring kicking butt in the ring right now and one coming out in August and 2 more right behind him. He's throwing amazing pups, but then his sire throws gorgeous pups too and his grandsire Johnnie Handsome sired over 60+ in the states alone.
www.yorkietalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=67963
this is the link to some of it. it was just for fun ya know. i'm just a little country girl so what do I know. i know i was very blessed to get good dogs to start with. now if I could find a stud that satisfies me before my girls have to be retired. I have my Crosswinds male but still trying to decide if I like him well enough to stud. i would almost die to have something, anything from Johnny Handsome. the little male pup i was getting that fell thru was full of pastoral.
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this is the link to some of it. it was just for fun ya know. i'm just a little country girl so what do I know. i know i was very blessed to get good dogs to start with. now if I could find a stud that satisfies me before my girls have to be retired. I have my Crosswinds male but still trying to decide if I like him well enough to stud. i would almost die to have something, anything from Johnny Handsome. the little male pup i was getting that fell thru was full of pastoral.
Well it looks like you had fun with it. I just wish it was that easy to get an evaluation, it sure would save alot of time, money and travel to get judges approval to Champion them before I ever attempt to breed them.
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Well it looks like you had fun with it. I just wish it was that easy to get an evaluation, it sure would save alot of time, money and travel to get judges approval to Champion them before I ever attempt to breed them.
yes, that would be nice. At least it let me know I am having some nice babies.
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Dee, I'm certainly not trying to rain on your parade, but if someone could actually evaluate a puppy, especially young puppies, from photographs, there would be no need for dog shows. Even looking at the dogs in the ring, until you can see their movement, you can tell nothing other than they have a nice coat. That's why judges observe their movement first and then put hands ON. That's the only way you can tell what is under that hair. Breeders such as Mary are so very particular of the quality of the dogs she has going in the ring, that the puppies she places in companion homes are nicer than many of the dogs that are being shown. Such is true of most of the long time Yorkie breeder/exhibitors.
Hey girl, you live in Kentucky, not outer space! I've been there, lovely state, it's not that far to shows and the drive is beautiful. Hey, I live in Texas. It's nothing to drive 300 - 600 miles to a show. There are a few here in Lubbock and Amarillo, but they don't come around often enough to do someone much good. Gotta travel! It's fun! Walking into the ring or even having someone handling a dog that's yours or your breeding is an awesome feeling. The only way to have show puppies is to show..
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