HELP! Is this possible?

[spoiledrottenpo]

Originally Posted by kathy785

How is little Miracle doing? I would be worried that she would not get any colostrum and then might get sick.

To address the attackers on one point. My vets never give me an "absolute" number of puppies. They tell me "at least 4" Or "4 maybe 5"

Thank you for her concern about the little one. I'm supplementing with bottle feeding occasionally because it was my concern as well, but she did miss out on it. she's gained 3/4th ozs now and sees the Vet on Monday.

[daisy mae06]

I am Sorry but I think if she is 8 years old she should not be bread. I am glad pups are ok. Please spay the mom and let her rest.

[diva pup]

Originally Posted by YorkieShadow

First off what a Miracle that is, You was so lucky that the little one was not delivered on the same day as the others, Because it would of been born to early and prob would not of lived. how it stayed in 9 more days is a Miracle in its self. Congrats.
The pictures of them are just way to sweet.
Im sorry you came here for help and ended up with all this rude posting that had nothing to do with your question. it gets me when I see people posting such mean stuff about someone with the tinys when they set with a tiny on their lap as they type. It does not bother me one way or the other what people want to call their tinys, Tcups, micro. it all means the same, small. The only thing I hate hearing is when a female is being breed over and over. not saying that anyones doing that, but thats gets me not the t-cup names....and it had nothing to do with your question, so im sorry you had to go through that. Congrats on your babys.

I certainly DID have a tiny on my lap when I posted, BUT she is not being bred and she was certainly not INTENTIONALLY bred to be this size either. Therein lies the difference
Every reputable breeder can have tinies come up, they then sell them as PETS and NEVER on open papers as opposed to the OP's website.

She put up her site, I went and looked, I suppose I could have just oohed and ahhed over the little tiny dogs but I didn't, there were way too many things wrong with her "program", I hate to see a inexperienced person come on YT think "oh I want that little tiny puppy or one just like it".

As far as her original question?? I have spoken to 2 breeders (reputable) and posed the question. Sorry, they had never in 50 cumulative years heard of anything of the sort.

[Sugar's Mom]

In my past three litters, I have had one tiny from each and one giant yorkie in one of them. i did not charge anymore for the tiny ones and didn't advertise them as such but I did tell people what I estimated their size would be and as we all know, that is only an estimate.

[spoiledrottenpo]

Originally Posted by Ladyhawk

I know this is a bit off topic but will you be retiring this bitch now? My vet says that a 6 yr. old bitch is like a 44 yr. old woman. That would make an 8 yr. old in her late 50's wouldn't it? Most bitches are retired after 6 for a reason. Do you think that her age may have anything to do with this unusual birth? I know that when they are producing well and you might have to rehome them when they retire makes it hard to retire them. What are your considerations when continuing to breed this bitch? I'm not attacking, honestly. I have a 4 yr. old that I will someday face the same issue with.

Do know the reason that's why I posted the question and If I breed her again that would be up to her health and my Vets recommendations. If I don't breed her again I would NEVER get rid of her.

[daisy mae06]

Originally Posted by spoiledrottenpo

Do know the reason that's why I posted the question and If I breed her again that would be up to her health and my Vets recommendations. If I don't breed her again I would NEVER get rid of her.

Why on earth would you even think of breeding a 8 yr old Bitch? that is crazy thinking.

[red98vett]

Wow...I know some don't like to see the direct comments and consider them to be bashing but...if everyone held their tongue how would anyone ever learn what constitutes good breedering practices vs not so good breeding practices ??

I thought the question was interesting but what went thru my mind was HOW DID THAT HAPPEN ??? and what would have happened to the mom if the baby had NOT delivered.....it easily could have been a tragedy and mom AND baby could have been lost.

I have to agree with Diva Pup and Sugars mom...there's alot more to breeding then selling micro mini's or whatever the latest term is and all I can say is judging from the number of yorkies in the SICK and Injured section...there sure are alot of tiny little dogs in trouble ...I don't mean from the Original poster nor am I referring to this thread - but just in general there sure is a major increase in problems we just should NOT be seeing....

This site is here to EDUCATE people as well as a place people are selling puppies....If no one spoke up for the dogs then why should we bother even reading the posts ???

Reputable breeders stand behind their lines and everyday I appreciate them more and more....

spoiledrottenpo...good luck with your little puppy - I really hope she grows up to be a happy healthy little yorkie. She sure is a little miracle

[kathy785]

I think that most of you could get your points and opinions across without attacking. While I would not purposely breed for the tiny ones, it has happened that they have been born. I also would not knowingly sell a tiny one to a person that was going to breed her. In my OPINION, it would have been better to say, "In my opinion. . . " rather than, "Why in the world. . .!" or "I cannot believe you are so irresponsible." We don't want to drive anyone away that might learn from our examples and kind words. Kind words will get the point across to those looking for babies. The harsh words make you seem mean and witchy. If you were new here what type of person would you rather talk to about the possibility of a new baby?

[spoiledrottenpo]

Originally Posted by red98vett

Wow...I know some don't like to see the direct comments and consider them to be bashing but...if everyone held their tongue how would anyone ever learn what constitutes good breedering practices vs not so good breeding practices ??

I thought the question was interesting but what went thru my mind was HOW DID THAT HAPPEN ??? and what would have happened to the mom if the baby had NOT delivered.....it easily could have been a tragedy and mom AND baby could have been lost.

I have to agree with Diva Pup and Sugars mom...there's alot more to breeding then selling micro mini's or whatever the latest term is and all I can say is judging from the number of yorkies in the SICK and Injured section...there sure are alot of tiny little dogs in trouble ...I don't mean from the Original poster nor am I referring to this thread - but just in general there sure is a major increase in problems we just should NOT be seeing....

This site is here to EDUCATE people as well as a place people are selling puppies....If no one spoke up for the dogs then why should we bother even reading the posts ???

Reputable breeders stand behind their lines and everyday I appreciate them more and more....

spoiledrottenpo...good luck with your little puppy - I really hope she grows up to be a happy healthy little yorkie. She sure is a little miracle

I agree with alot of what you said, and I don't know how it happened or how the Vet could of missed the pup in the xray cause Mommy could of died. So I'm glad she was a healthy mommy to start with and everything checks out great now with her. I just wish some knew the difference between Educating & Bashing then we all may accually learn some thing from this little Miracle.

[daisy mae06]

Originally Posted by spoiledrottenpo

Thank you for your diagnoses of my brain. And where did you say you got your PHD in Psychology?

I was Not being rude I was just saying that You should never breed a dog that old! if you are as you say?? you would know this. I will Pray for those pups and mom but I am done with this thread.

[red98vett]

Originally Posted by spoiledrottenpo

I agree with alot of what you said, and I don't know how it happened or how the Vet could of missed the pup in the xray cause Mommy could of died. So I'm glad she was a healthy mommy to start with and everything checks out great now with her. I just wish some knew the difference between Educating & Bashing then we all may accually learn some thing from this little Miracle.

I'm glad for you too...the more i think about it the more I really do think that is one lucky little puppy ....Mom too.

I really do hope she grows up to be fat and sassy

[kalina82]

I wish the answer to the oringal question was talking about more because it is a really interesting topic. unfortunately it was not........

so, ignoring everything else posted, i want to wish you luck with your tiny 'miracle'. i hope she grows up to be a big beautiful spoiled baby!

[HighlandYorkies]

Originally Posted by kalina82

I wish the answer to the oringal question was talking about more because it is a really interesting topic. unfortunately it was not........

so, ignoring everything else posted, i want to wish you luck with your tiny 'miracle'. i hope she grows up to be a big beautiful spoiled baby!

........Well said !

[kelkiss5]

First of all congratulations on your little miracle, and the rest of your babies. And to answer your question i have never heard of this happening, but thank god for sweet little miracles.

Now to fent a bit. I am getting absoulty peed of with some of the members here. I have noticed that they are constantly picking and being rude to other people. I see that someone asks a perfectly simple question and then what do you, the vultures are in for the kill. It reminds me of school yard bullying.
I think that there is no call for this behaviour, if you dont agree with someone, well you dont have to be down right rude to get your point across, you know that you have a delete button on your keyboard, you can read your post, have a look before submitting and think to yourself, well would i like to be spoken to like that.

[YorkieShadow]

Originally Posted by Sugar's Mom

Well, I am glad the puppy is okay and the momma is too. you all can say miracle. Yes, it is. It is a miracle that the puppy and it's momma survived, if this bitch had been taken to the vet for a post whelping check up right after birth, the vet would have known. Also, if she had any vet care at all before birth, they would have likely known how many she was going to have. sorry but I can't sing the praises of this breeder. it's clear to me the bitch had no pre or post pregnancy care. This usually happens when the bitch is bred then several days later bred again. but usually the puppy that was conceived last is born along with the rest of them and is premature.

Hum If she would of took her to the vet. he would of gave her a shot to help deliver all pups, well then she would of lost the baby, because it would been born premature. I dont agree. The ladys been breeding for years. Im sure she knows the signs of her dog in trouble. But I agreee now I would have the female checked.