Reporting Myself

[wnalegria]

I thought that I would go ahead and report myself as a bad breeder before it ends up on here.

I took a deposit for a small yorkie puppy some time ago. Puppy did not do well with some of her shots and had to stay to make sure that all was well.

I held unto the $200.00 deposit for quite some time before I cashed it- just this month.

Well Saturday the client came to get the puppy met her at the airport. I have everything in place-.

She flew in on a airline that does not allow pets- only service dogs. The paperwork that she provided to the airline did not qualify for her to take this dog on the plane as her therapy dog. Mind you she flew in from the east coast with no need of a therapy dog.

She could not take the dog home with her. I offered to send the dog to her this week by delta. I could send the puppy COD for the flight and we could use the same health certificate.

I am a bad breeder cause I told her that she would have to pay for the puppy in full before I could send the puppy. She was not willing to pay for the puppy - wanted me to just send the kid to her.

I am a bad breeder because I did not give her her deposit back on the spot.
I am a bad breeder because I told her that I was going to deduct my costs for this mess from her deposit. I am a bad breeder because I told her that I would not refund any money until I place the puppy in a new home.

I am a bad breeder - I should be a professional and understand that this happens and I should just eat the costs.

Why should she have to pay for my gas to and from the airport- the parking fee- two trips to the vet to get the health certificate because she did not give me all the information- the health certificate- the vet check- the worming exam- the deworming (was negative )

I am a bad breeder I am eating the cost of the Bordatella, 16 week shots, Revolution and Rabies. This kid was good to go would require nothing other then a check up for a year. Those things do not bother me they are for the benefit of the puppy.

You wonder why the costs of puppies are so high. Look at what breeders are put through. How easy it is to call some one a bad breeder and not a professional.

I could have met this gal at the airport and left her. She would have been stuck there with my puppy and no way to get her home. I told her on Friday that I did not think this airline allowed pets on board. She had it under control. I stayed with her while she tried to check in and straighten out the mess. She still had not paid me for the puppy even though it was in her carry on bag. I could have asked her for my money and left her before she had to check in at the airline. I cared too much for my puppy and also did not want to do that to her. I just had that feeling that something was not right.

What upsets me also is that she was going to pay me by a check. I am sorry- I will take a deposit on a kid that is going to leave some time later. This allows time for a check to clear the bank -can take up to 10 working days.

I do not take checks when you pick a baby up- it is a certified check, money order- paypal or cash.

I guess - I was not trustyworthy enough in her eyes to send the puppy to her. She was not going to pay for the puppy if it could not go home with her. How many of you still take a check or will send someone a puppy that is not paid for. I got burned that way in 2005 and it created a mess in my life.

Well that is all that I wanted to say- I know that this is going to get slammed on here and thought this way you can have both sides of the story. Mine and the other party. Boy am I glad that I am getting out of this mess- what used to be such fun is no longer any fun.

I got back into this for a release and to make myself feel better on days that my health was getting me down. It has placed me several feet closer to the grave. I have met some wonderful people because of the Yorkies. I have also been blessed with some that have been difficult.

[chachi]

Was this a yorkietalker? If so I am surprised they didnt know their airlines didnt accept pets. I dont think your a bad breeder. I think she is a bad buyer. It just sounds like she was unprepared all the way around

[JeanieK]

I guess I would have been a bad breeder too, cause there is now way I would have given her the puppy without the cash in my hand.

It's too bad that she couldn't take the puppy home with her, but one would have thought that she would have checked with the airline first. that was her responsibility, not yours.

And as for charging her for your expenses, I don't blame you it was her mess up not yours

And I don't understand her not wanting you to ship it to her.

[I Love Bailey]

I don't see where she would be able to call you a 'bad' breeder.
Shame on her!
I feel you did the right thing for the puppy. I don't feel she was responsible enough to care for a puppy. I think (in my opinion) you do not owe her, her deposit back. She brought all this upon herself by not listening to your advice on airlines, health certificates, payment etc.
I also flew to get my puppy last month, She was paid in full long before I flew to get her. I also checked with the airlines numerous times to make sure everything was all set and called the breeder to make sure I had everything I needed and she had all shots to travel. I also had a carrier, food, toys, blankets, tshirts, piddle pads and all necessary paperwork (with copies)
Sounds like you would not have seen the balance owed to you.
I hope this puppy finds a caring, loving, responsible home it deserves.
I am sorry this happened to you and your getting out of breeding puppies.

[browniesmom622]

wow she is nuts to think you were just gonna hand her a free puppy !
u are not a bad breeder !

oh and anyone here who slams her is nuts also !!

[Sugar's Mom]

I would have handled it exactly the same way. we have shipped hundreds of beagles thru the years andd we always get our money before they get the dog and if they don't understand that we don't take checks after we have usually told them two or three times, then something is wrong. We have taken people to our local bank or ATm because they showed up and thought they would pay with check. I am sorry to hear you are getting out of yorkies, kathy.

[LuvMySissy]

I also flew to pick up my new baby. She was paid in full two weeks BEFORE I picked her up, I had a reservation on the airlines for her return trip, her carrier, sweater, blanket, toys, leash, and Nutrical that I brought with her. I was in close contact with my breeder and called her from the airport when my flight was changed. She met me at the airport with the pup and her health certificate along with her shot records, which included her bordatella as I requested and paid for.

If a possible new mommy/daddy is conscientious enough to make sure their airline allows pup and hasn't made an advance reservation for the pup's return carry-on, then they probably aren't the right mommy/daddy for your pup. I don't think you handled this inappropriately at all.

[mistyinca]

I think you handled it perfectly. What could she expect otherwise.

I don't mean to jack this thread, but this has my curiosity, since I have never travelled with a dog before. Which airlines DO allow carry on pets?
Does AA or Southwest allow it?

thanks

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by wnalegria

I thought that I would go ahead and report myself as a bad breeder before it ends up on here.

I took a deposit for a small yorkie puppy some time ago. Puppy did not do well with some of her shots and had to stay to make sure that all was well.

I held unto the $200.00 deposit for quite some time before I cashed it- just this month.

Well Saturday the client came to get the puppy met her at the airport. I have everything in place-.

She flew in on a airline that does not allow pets- only service dogs. The paperwork that she provided to the airline did not qualify for her to take this dog on the plane as her therapy dog. Mind you she flew in from the east coast with no need of a therapy dog.

She could not take the dog home with her. I offered to send the dog to her this week by delta. I could send the puppy COD for the flight and we could use the same health certificate.

I am a bad breeder cause I told her that she would have to pay for the puppy in full before I could send the puppy. She was not willing to pay for the puppy - wanted me to just send the kid to her.

I am a bad breeder because I did not give her her deposit back on the spot.
I am a bad breeder because I told her that I was going to deduct my costs for this mess from her deposit. I am a bad breeder because I told her that I would not refund any money until I place the puppy in a new home.

I am a bad breeder - I should be a professional and understand that this happens and I should just eat the costs.

Why should she have to pay for my gas to and from the airport- the parking fee- two trips to the vet to get the health certificate because she did not give me all the information- the health certificate- the vet check- the worming exam- the deworming (was negative )

I am a bad breeder I am eating the cost of the Bordatella, 16 week shots, Revolution and Rabies. This kid was good to go would require nothing other then a check up for a year. Those things do not bother me they are for the benefit of the puppy.

You wonder why the costs of puppies are so high. Look at what breeders are put through. How easy it is to call some one a bad breeder and not a professional.

I could have met this gal at the airport and left her. She would have been stuck there with my puppy and no way to get her home. I told her on Friday that I did not think this airline allowed pets on board. She had it under control. I stayed with her while she tried to check in and straighten out the mess. She still had not paid me for the puppy even though it was in her carry on bag. I could have asked her for my money and left her before she had to check in at the airline. I cared too much for my puppy and also did not want to do that to her. I just had that feeling that something was not right.

What upsets me also is that she was going to pay me by a check. I am sorry- I will take a deposit on a kid that is going to leave some time later. This allows time for a check to clear the bank -can take up to 10 working days.

I do not take checks when you pick a baby up- it is a certified check, money order- paypal or cash.

I guess - I was not trustyworthy enough in her eyes to send the puppy to her. She was not going to pay for the puppy if it could not go home with her. How many of you still take a check or will send someone a puppy that is not paid for. I got burned that way in 2005 and it created a mess in my life.

Well that is all that I wanted to say- I know that this is going to get slammed on here and thought this way you can have both sides of the story. Mine and the other party. Boy am I glad that I am getting out of this mess- what used to be such fun is no longer any fun.

I got back into this for a release and to make myself feel better on days that my health was getting me down. It has placed me several feet closer to the grave. I have met some wonderful people because of the Yorkies. I have also been blessed with some that have been difficult.

Nope, Not slammed at all....you did everything correct. Most every breeder requires a deposit and a cash/certified check, etc on the balance, when puppy is obtained. The deposit of course would be returned if they change their minds within 72 hours (federal law), or if something happens to the puppy while still with the breeder. However, if all the problem lays with the potential new owner and by problem, I don't mean the person just found out they have cancer, or they've lost a spouse (you would return the deposit then, heck, I'd probably give them the pup).......nope, the deposit is kept. It states that in my contract. Now you have to go about finding an approved home (that takes time), plus more puppy care......Again the deposit is good faith money, to insure the potential new family has their ducks lined up in a row.

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by mistyinca

I think you handled it perfectly. What could she expect otherwise.

I don't mean to jack this thread, but this has my curiosity, since I have never travelled with a dog before. Which airlines DO allow carry on pets?
Does AA or Southwest allow it?

thanks

American does Southwest doesn't.

[omega]

I think what you did was right! Good for you.

[TootiesMom]

I am not a breeder but I would not expect anything less of a good one! You did the right thing, for sure. Who in their right mind would fly to get a pup without MAKING DOUBLE SURE it was OK??? I flew to get my baby and called Delta 4 or 5 times to make SURE it was still all approved. I would have had to stay there if they wouldnt have let me have her... hehe

[cj125]

Thank You - I appreciate you coming forward with what happened. I think you handled it correctly. How's the puppy?

[txshopper73]

I do not think you did anything wrong. The price of puppy should have been paid in full. Nothing wrong with waiting to refund once you get the pup re-placed. This person obviously is someone who gets everything she's ever wanted...her way. Her expectations were unreal. She walked out on the deal...not you. Most deposits are nonrefundable. You're being more than kind to offer her any type of refund.

[chattiesmom]

Congratulations! Way to Go! Great Job!

We need MORE self-reporting breeders!!!