Spay/Neuter Contracts

[Ladyhawk]

It seems like lately everyone and their grandmother wants to breed, even if they don't have a clue about dogs. Don't most reputable breeders still sell with a spay/neuter contract? I've had some buyers get a bit unhappy with me but as a breeder I know what should and shouldn't be bred. Of course if the dog turned out better than expencted you can always rescind and give full registration. What's the common practise on this out there?

[red98vett]

Originally Posted by Ladyhawk

It seems like lately everyone and their grandmother wants to breed, even if they don't have a clue about dogs. Don't most reputable breeders still sell with a spay/neuter contract? I've had some buyers get a bit unhappy with me but as a breeder I know what should and shouldn't be bred. Of course if the dog turned out better than expencted you can always rescind and give full registration. What's the common practise on this out there?

[bettyeanne]

Originally Posted by red98vett

I second that ..... !!!

[chachi]

The breeder that I got Chachi and Jewels from was more of a backyard breeder and she didnt have the spay neuter contract. The breeder that I am getting my next one from is more reputable and she does have the spay/neuter contract. It doesnt matter to me because all my dogs are spayed and neutered

[Olivier]

My puppies are spayed or neutered before leaving my home .

Too many new owners will sign a spay/neuter contracts and later will begin to ask the breeders to change it for whatever reasons they have in mind or go and have the little ones bred , when the breeders discover them , they always have the same answer " Its an accident " .

[bettyeanne]

I have a very, very deep respect for knowledgeable breeders ... after all, if not for Ava we wouldn't have our precious Toto! We signed a spay/neuter contract that was totally unnecessary because we made that decision before we ever found her! We had to wait until she was 8 months for her to reach the 2 lbs. she needed to be for a safe spay. I don't believe there's a pup on the face of this earth that would be worth risking the life of our baby! Besides ... like I have said before ... "I don't know nuthin' 'bout birthin' no babies" and I have no desire to do it. I believe it should be left up to the reputable breeders. [BTW ... this is no reflection on new breeders who want to breed healthy pups .... we all had to start somewhere and I admire anyone who aspires to some day be a reputable breeder.]

[abbie's mom]

Originally Posted by bettyeanne

I have a very, very deep respect for knowledgeable breeders ... "I don't know nuthin' 'bout birthin' no babies" and I have no desire to do it. I believe it should be left up to the reputable breeders. [BTW ... this is no reflection on new breeders who want to breed healthy pups .... we all had to start somewhere and I admire anyone who aspires to some day be a reputable breeder.]

[trini&coco]

As a new "aspiring" breeder I believe we should discuss, explain and educate the people we sell our dogs to as to why it would not be healthy to breed certain dogs. Contracts are great, but people do not always follow them...I believe that we should use our knowledge to decide who would be suitable to breed. I think to spay/neuter before the puppies leave our homes is a great idea but not always an option.

The problem is alot of larger dogs are easy to breed and with these little ones, (especially with the TREND being "the smaler, the better") there are alot of people breeding out of standard and they don't know the dangers of breeding these small dogs.

I don't know...it should be up to the discretion of the breeder, within reason...

[trini&coco]

Also, there should be a love for Yorkies (and animals in general), a respect for breed standards, dedication to the social and general health of all their dogs (moms, dads & babies), and alot of time and research in order to even be considered to breed!

[Sugar's Mom]

when I sold Silk's puppy, one of the first questions I was asked was if i gave a full show/breed registration. With this puppy i didn't see a need for limited registration. She is show quality and in fact, probably will go to a handler/trainer soon. I have no interest at all in showing. AND, if that should fall thru, she has an outstanding pedigree. One of the best I've seen and she will be a good breeding size. She takes after her mommy Silk. I would love to see that line continued since there will be no more after I had Silk spayed. I am down for her first female puppy. I sold her with full knowledge that she would be either/or and I didn't have a problem with it. had she been delicate, i would have probably given limited registration or as Oliver said, she would have been spayed before leaving me. That is the safest way because they can always go to another registry if you only mark limited on the AKC paper. One of these latest babies is very tiny so I will have to see what she turns into before I even let her go.

[JCarlson2004]

If I were a breeder, I would spay and neuter my dogs BEFORE they left my home. But if the dog was of show quality, I would keep him/her longer until that can be determined for sure and if the answer was yes, then I'd carefully screen and choose a reputable person to adopt the dog for breeding but this would not be a decision made lightly.

[topknot]

I agree with JCarlson2004

If I were a breeder, I would spay and neuter my dogs BEFORE they left my home. But if the dog was of show quality, I would keep him/her longer until that can be determined for sure and if the answer was yes, then I'd carefully screen and choose a reputable person to adopt the dog for breeding but this would not be a decision made lightly.

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I have had too many people tell me or heard from others - that buyers can just go to another registry to get them registered and then still breed. Who knows which male they will breed to. It is not as simply as whether the female is of good breeding quality, but also every male they would breed her too. I just can't take the risk by letting one of my pups go without being spay/neuter unless I know the person is very knowledgeable and respectable (I need to know then well). Too much money, time, and care has gone into my breeding and my name for one person to come along and mess it all up in one breeding. My names are on those papers and by golly I need to do what I can to protect the standard.

It is just too easy for one to go to another registery these days - so you have to be careful.
T.

[Diego]

Originally Posted by topknot

I agree with JCarlson2004 .

I have had too many people tell me or heard from others - that buyers can just go to another registry to get them registered and then still breed. Who knows which male they will breed to. It is not as simply as whether the female is of good breeding quality, but also every male they would breed her too. I just can't take the risk by letting one of my pups go without being spay/neuter unless I know the person is very knowledgeable and respectable (I need to know then well). Too much money, time, and care has gone into my breeding and my name for one person to come along and mess it all up in one breeding. My names are on those papers and by golly I need to do what I can to protect the standard.

It is just too easy for one to go to another registery these days - so you have to be careful.
T.