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MyTrixie143 · 05-03-2006, 09:52 PM

If you do decide to breed her you need to look at pedigree. It would be best to find a male stud that has produced good quality puppies. You should be able to go back atleast 4 generations on both dogs to ensure that the puppies should turn out healthy. For example, take liver shunt, genetic testing will do little to ensure that the puppies will not inherit it, you have to know the line of pedigree and whether any of those dogs have had liver shunt or passed it down. The dogs can and should be tested for it but sometimes it does not show up until they are much older. Even when you know the dog's lines you arn't guaranteed 100 percent that a puppy will not end up with it, it is the safest way however.

As far as size goes I would look at the parents, grandparents, great grandparents and etc.. to see the size of the puppies they have produced. I know of some breeders where their first, second, third generations all produced small puppies and then the fourth would produce bigger puppies and the fifth would be the original size. So you can't always go by the parents' sizes. I have heard of some studs bred to bigger females produce small puppies no matter what the size of the female was. Size and weight can be a very tricky thing to determine or predict.

And for the age to breed her, I was always told atleast one and half years old and had two to three heat cycles.

pauldo · 05-04-2006, 11:24 AM

I'm confused??? Didn't the original yorkies use to be over 10 pounds, so why would yorkies that are over 7 pounds not look like yorkies. Perhaps it's the small yorkies we are all trying to breed that don't look like yorkies.

DaisyMaesMom · 05-04-2006, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by pauldo

I'm confused??? Didn't the original yorkies use to be over 10 pounds, so why would yorkies that are over 7 pounds not look like yorkies. Perhaps it's the small yorkies we are all trying to breed that don't look like yorkies.

Yes, the originals did, HOWEVER, the breed standard now is between 4-7 lbs...

red rock blues · 05-04-2006, 03:19 PM

I don't know when this happened, but the breed standard used to be 4 to 7 pounds. It simply states not to exceed 7 pounds now. 50 years or so ago in England there were 2 classes of Yorkies. Under 5 lb. class and over.
Crystal, I commend you on studying up on breeding before you actually do it. When I first bought a female to breed, I thought I had found a good breeder and mentor. Although my pups were very pretty and healthy, I discovered she knew less about the breed standard than I did, after I had spent some time reading and attending a few shows. I'm planning to begin again, and am still learning all the time. I suppose I always will. I was fortunate enough to end up talking alot with a wonderful woman named Terry Shumsky (now deceased), who asked me simply, "if you're going to put the time and money into breeding, why not do it right?" LOL. She was never judgemental, just very practical. Here's one big tip. If someone will stud their dog without asking for a brucelosis test, run. And a good breeder who studs her dog will supply you with one from her male. Protect your baby, and good luck to you.

pauldo · 05-09-2006, 09:21 PM

Reply to DaisyMaesMom: Just playing "devil's advocate" in my previous message (I understand the "standard" thing) However I still find your comment that breeding larger yorkies will "deviate more from what a yorkie is suppose to look like" humorous. Take a look at the thread "Pictures of a larger size yorkie??? Anyone" under Yorkie Discussion postings. Lots of pictures of big, cute yorkies that still look like yorkies -- Saw these yorkies and thought "wow, I need to look for a big yorkie -- they are adorable". (My yorkies are 5lb. and 6 lbs. - adorable as well!).

05-03-2006, 09:52 PM	#16
MyTrixie143 Mom to 6 Beautiful Furkids Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 4,200	If you do decide to breed her you need to look at pedigree. It would be best to find a male stud that has produced good quality puppies. You should be able to go back atleast 4 generations on both dogs to ensure that the puppies should turn out healthy. For example, take liver shunt, genetic testing will do little to ensure that the puppies will not inherit it, you have to know the line of pedigree and whether any of those dogs have had liver shunt or passed it down. The dogs can and should be tested for it but sometimes it does not show up until they are much older. Even when you know the dog's lines you arn't guaranteed 100 percent that a puppy will not end up with it, it is the safest way however. As far as size goes I would look at the parents, grandparents, great grandparents and etc.. to see the size of the puppies they have produced. I know of some breeders where their first, second, third generations all produced small puppies and then the fourth would produce bigger puppies and the fifth would be the original size. So you can't always go by the parents' sizes. I have heard of some studs bred to bigger females produce small puppies no matter what the size of the female was. Size and weight can be a very tricky thing to determine or predict. And for the age to breed her, I was always told atleast one and half years old and had two to three heat cycles. __________________ A dog is a furry person! http://www.dogster.com/?300866 Tracey & the gang Destiny Scampers Harmony Brownie Buster Trixie~Sugar~Peppi~Daisy

05-04-2006, 11:24 AM	#17
pauldo Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 97	I'm confused??? Didn't the original yorkies use to be over 10 pounds, so why would yorkies that are over 7 pounds not look like yorkies. Perhaps it's the small yorkies we are all trying to breed that don't look like yorkies.

05-04-2006, 03:19 PM	#19
red rock blues No Longer a Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Mesquite, Nv Posts: 136	I don't know when this happened, but the breed standard used to be 4 to 7 pounds. It simply states not to exceed 7 pounds now. 50 years or so ago in England there were 2 classes of Yorkies. Under 5 lb. class and over. Crystal, I commend you on studying up on breeding before you actually do it. When I first bought a female to breed, I thought I had found a good breeder and mentor. Although my pups were very pretty and healthy, I discovered she knew less about the breed standard than I did, after I had spent some time reading and attending a few shows. I'm planning to begin again, and am still learning all the time. I suppose I always will. I was fortunate enough to end up talking alot with a wonderful woman named Terry Shumsky (now deceased), who asked me simply, "if you're going to put the time and money into breeding, why not do it right?" LOL. She was never judgemental, just very practical. Here's one big tip. If someone will stud their dog without asking for a brucelosis test, run. And a good breeder who studs her dog will supply you with one from her male. Protect your baby, and good luck to you.

05-09-2006, 09:21 PM	#20
pauldo Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 97	Reply to DaisyMaesMom: Just playing "devil's advocate" in my previous message (I understand the "standard" thing) However I still find your comment that breeding larger yorkies will "deviate more from what a yorkie is suppose to look like" humorous. Take a look at the thread "Pictures of a larger size yorkie??? Anyone" under Yorkie Discussion postings. Lots of pictures of big, cute yorkies that still look like yorkies -- Saw these yorkies and thought "wow, I need to look for a big yorkie -- they are adorable". (My yorkies are 5lb. and 6 lbs. - adorable as well!).