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goldcupmom · 01-19-2006, 05:36 PM

I used to breed & show Persians. With cats, they ovulate after being bred. If you want to bring a cat OUT of heat, you use a Qtip to 'mate' with her. Then she will ovulate and be done with her cycle. I had one cat that would run if she saw a Qtip- she wanted the real thing!

whispersmom2 · 01-19-2006, 05:36 PM

I have not checked this out, but doesn't AKC allow for registry of a litter with multiple fathers if DNA is done and proof of purebred status is given? Pat, does that sound familiar?
Breeders who have an excellent bitch and wants to use 2 different studs to get the best chance of having great quality pups could breed and register all of the litter to their individual sires if what I think is really true. Of course, my swiss cheese brain could have filtered out the most important issues. LOL

KimMee's Mom · 01-19-2006, 05:37 PM

Good Grief, at my age and I am getting lessons in the birds and the bees

mylittletigger · 01-19-2006, 05:40 PM

I would say yes, only because my moms old yellow lab was pregnant when we adopted her off the streets. Little did we know though she was due with sixteen puppies. That's right sixteen puppies! only one died and we had to bottle feed some. She had rotties, bulldogs, looked like cockers, and labs. Probably more, but it was a long time ago. Definitly possible.

YorkieRose · 01-19-2006, 05:43 PM

Kimberley, the woman never thought of the two sire issue..she just looked at the pups and picked a dad I guess to use on AKC.

RiniW..you are right AKC will accept more then one sire for a litter with DNA proff..BUT I would just forget it and let them go with no papers..would you really want to tell AKC you have no idea who the sire of your puppies are??? LOL They might get the idea things are a bit messed up in the kennel..LOL

whispersmom2 · 01-19-2006, 05:46 PM

My lips would be sealed unless I had planned and broadcast way ahead that I was intending to do that. LOL

Julz · 01-19-2006, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by StewiesMom

That woman had invitro fertlization and the lab mixed a black man's sperm and the woman's (white) husband's sperm in one vial before it was injected in her.

I was just talking about that less than a week ago!

yorkiemom1970 · 01-20-2006, 05:24 AM

This was one interesting thread I have to say!

Sugar's Mom · 01-20-2006, 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by whispersmom2

I have not checked this out, but doesn't AKC allow for registry of a litter with multiple fathers if DNA is done and proof of purebred status is given? Pat, does that sound familiar?
Breeders who have an excellent bitch and wants to use 2 different studs to get the best chance of having great quality pups could breed and register all of the litter to their individual sires if what I think is really true. Of course, my swiss cheese brain could have filtered out the most important issues. LOL

yes, AKC does allow this. I saw it last night when I was running forms off their site. I thought about this thread. I was really surprised. You can also get the 'limited registration" changed. i didn't read about that tho because I would never buy a dog with limited reg.

Mydogkelsey · 01-20-2006, 06:19 AM

That's so crazy. I've never heard of that before...i guess it is possible! That is wonderful the parents of the human babies accept them as their own etc.

Mydogkelsey · 01-20-2006, 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by YorkieShadow

Heres my Chyanne with her lab puppy surprise.lol He was really cute but was so big . She had a real hard time having him. and we almost lost him because of it. He was like stuck head in butt out and there was no room and he was just caught there and he was no longer in a sac. we had no time to take her off to the vet and so we greased her up and pulled with each push and let me tell you she was so tired that there was hardley any pushing left in her.But she did it and I was so proud of her. We would see Big daddy Lab setting by the woods looking in and well when we saw this baby we just knew it was his.We named him Raven .

WOW that is a great story. Did you keep the baby?

TatumsMom · 01-20-2006, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by PlatinumYorkies

Am I being hoodwinked....If you mate your bitch to A yorkie one day, and A maltese another...can you get both a Pure breed yorkshire terrier, and a Yorkshire terrier Maltese mix????

I was told this on another thread...."What she's saying is that if you breed a female to two males, different breeds in the same heat cycle, it's very possible that both males can father puppies in that litter"

I have to jump in here and say that I was the one that told her this. Good to know from what ya'll say that I was "speaking the truth". I'm the type that reads all the time and although you gain a lot of knowledge from that, sometimes you can't remember the source later and know for sure if what you read was fact or rumor. That could come from being an avid reader of The Enquirer

along with all the other reputable things I read!

PlatinumYorkies · 01-20-2006, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by YorkieRose

Kimberley, the woman never thought of the two sire issue..she just looked at the pups and picked a dad I guess to use on AKC.

RiniW..you are right AKC will accept more then one sire for a litter with DNA proff..BUT I would just forget it and let them go with no papers..would you really want to tell AKC you have no idea who the sire of your puppies are??? LOL They might get the idea things are a bit messed up in the kennel..LOL

Couldn't you take them on Maury for the DNA test..It couldn't possibly be more than 5 right!! Because they do up to 5 at a time!!!

YorkieRose · 01-20-2006, 12:23 PM

Good one...LOL
A friend asked to use my champion, Chopper for stud some years ago. Her Yorkie male was neutered, so he was no problem, BUT she had an unaltered Maltese. She promised she would not allow her Malt in the house..he would stay downstairs in her daughters basement apartment.

When the pups were born they were not 100% Yorkie..the gold was white. I knew her Maltese got to the Yorkie. My friend was so excited to have a champ-sired litter, it was hard for me to tell her I would not sign the AKC papers to register the litter..I dreaded it...but when I went to dock the tails at 4 days, my friend said she suspected an "accident" had happened...so she sold them as "Morkies"..if her male Yorkie was not neutered, who knows that they would have been...that is why many breeders insist on the bitch owner leaving the female until she goes out of heat if they have other males..we want to know our male actually sired the litter...and what breeder wants to pay for another breeders stud, when their male was the sire???

sabrinasmom · 01-20-2006, 05:35 PM

a vet told me that happens. He said it happens a lot with females that are out around a lot of males and then they'll have a "variety" litter. It has something ot do with the eggs being let down at different times and the sperm being mobile for longer than you'd think.

01-19-2006, 05:37 PM	#33
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01-19-2006, 05:40 PM	#34
mylittletigger YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 1,216	I would say yes, only because my moms old yellow lab was pregnant when we adopted her off the streets. Little did we know though she was due with sixteen puppies. That's right sixteen puppies! only one died and we had to bottle feed some. She had rotties, bulldogs, looked like cockers, and labs. Probably more, but it was a long time ago. Definitly possible. __________________ Tigger's dogster http://www.dogster.com/?257308 Bear's dogster: www.dogster.com/?368626. Krystal, John, Tigger and Baby Bear.

01-19-2006, 05:43 PM	#35
YorkieRose YT 4000 Club Member Donating Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: South Florida Posts: 7,207	Kimberley, the woman never thought of the two sire issue..she just looked at the pups and picked a dad I guess to use on AKC. RiniW..you are right AKC will accept more then one sire for a litter with DNA proff..BUT I would just forget it and let them go with no papers..would you really want to tell AKC you have no idea who the sire of your puppies are??? LOL They might get the idea things are a bit messed up in the kennel..LOL __________________ Pat, Kate, Becca and Pinkkee Prim

01-20-2006, 06:19 AM	#40
Mydogkelsey YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Orlando, Fl. Posts: 1,126	That's so crazy. I've never heard of that before...i guess it is possible! That is wonderful the parents of the human babies accept them as their own etc. __________________ R.I.P. Amy girl 01/06/06

01-20-2006, 12:23 PM	#44
YorkieRose YT 4000 Club Member Donating Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: South Florida Posts: 7,207	pups Good one...LOL A friend asked to use my champion, Chopper for stud some years ago. Her Yorkie male was neutered, so he was no problem, BUT she had an unaltered Maltese. She promised she would not allow her Malt in the house..he would stay downstairs in her daughters basement apartment. When the pups were born they were not 100% Yorkie..the gold was white. I knew her Maltese got to the Yorkie. My friend was so excited to have a champ-sired litter, it was hard for me to tell her I would not sign the AKC papers to register the litter..I dreaded it...but when I went to dock the tails at 4 days, my friend said she suspected an "accident" had happened...so she sold them as "Morkies"..if her male Yorkie was not neutered, who knows that they would have been...that is why many breeders insist on the bitch owner leaving the female until she goes out of heat if they have other males..we want to know our male actually sired the litter...and what breeder wants to pay for another breeders stud, when their male was the sire??? __________________ Pat, Kate, Becca and Pinkkee Prim

01-19-2006, 05:36 PM	#31
goldcupmom YT Addict Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 371	I used to breed & show Persians. With cats, they ovulate after being bred. If you want to bring a cat OUT of heat, you use a Qtip to 'mate' with her. Then she will ovulate and be done with her cycle. I had one cat that would run if she saw a Qtip- she wanted the real thing!

01-19-2006, 05:36 PM	#32
whispersmom2 Inactive Account Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: MD Posts: 2,985	I have not checked this out, but doesn't AKC allow for registry of a litter with multiple fathers if DNA is done and proof of purebred status is given? Pat, does that sound familiar? Breeders who have an excellent bitch and wants to use 2 different studs to get the best chance of having great quality pups could breed and register all of the litter to their individual sires if what I think is really true. Of course, my swiss cheese brain could have filtered out the most important issues. LOL

01-19-2006, 05:46 PM	#36
whispersmom2 Inactive Account Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: MD Posts: 2,985	My lips would be sealed unless I had planned and broadcast way ahead that I was intending to do that. LOL

01-20-2006, 05:24 AM	#38
yorkiemom1970 No Longer a Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: North Carolina Posts: 1,947	This was one interesting thread I have to say!

01-20-2006, 05:35 PM	#45
sabrinasmom YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: texas Posts: 768	a vet told me that happens. He said it happens a lot with females that are out around a lot of males and then they'll have a "variety" litter. It has something ot do with the eggs being let down at different times and the sperm being mobile for longer than you'd think. __________________ Frankie (the MOM), Sabrina, and Elvira