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Rbohannon · 02-05-2016, 06:50 AM

Please help! I've been searching for at least a month for a healthy Yorkie puppy. Does anyone know the reputation of Yorkiematch?? I've been reading your threads and you seem to be a really nice bunch of people. I don't know who else I can trust. Thank you in advance for any info./help!

Wylie's Mom · 02-05-2016, 09:45 AM

Hi and welcome to YT

! I'm sending you a private message. Did you try the AZ breeders listed on YTCA.org yet, btw?

LBerrerra · 02-05-2016, 10:02 AM

I don’t know a whole lot about them looking on the website all I can is that they are breeding for the "smaller" yorkies. While that doesn’t mean anything horrible, you need to be aware that the smaller ones need to watched closely.

LBerrerra · 02-05-2016, 10:03 AM

All I know about them is that they are on The Yorkshire Terrier Club of America site as a breeder. That means that they are established and they have been around for long enough. It looks like they have shown some of their dogs in the past but haven’t been active in showing for a few years.

MCallister · 02-05-2016, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Rbohannon

Please help! I've been searching for at least a month for a healthy Yorkie puppy. Does anyone know the reputation of Yorkiematch?? I've been reading your threads and you seem to be a really nice bunch of people. I don't know who else I can trust. Thank you in advance for any info./help!

I think I have heard of Yorkiematch. They are in Phoenix Arizona. They are a very reputable breeder. Its hard nowadays though because so many people use each other’s names. Hope this is the one in Arizona and not somewhere else. Other than that I do not know anything. It seems like a legitimate site. Have you called and spoken with them? I like to call and speak with the breeders.

MCallister · 02-05-2016, 10:55 AM

I just did a google search for this breeder. They advertise T-Cup puppies. I don’t believe in selling Tcup puppies. The breed standard is 7 lbs, and I feel these are too small. You really shouldn’t be looking to get a puppy that is that small. The larger ones are what the standard is. As long as you communicate with the breeder and ask about their health guarantees you should be safe.

20milehike · 02-05-2016, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Rbohannon

Please help! I've been searching for at least a month for a healthy Yorkie puppy. Does anyone know the reputation of Yorkiematch?? I've been reading your threads and you seem to be a really nice bunch of people. I don't know who else I can trust. Thank you in advance for any info./help!

I bought a puppy from them back in September of 2015. They were easy to work with and we experienced no problems with having the puppy. They were good at meeting our needs. She was right in refusing to show the dog to us until it was at least 10 weeks old or more (Yorkie puppies should be given a few extra weeks over other breeds before beign separated from their mother). Everything from that side of the procedure went well.

When we received our puppy he was in good clean shape but extremely small. As time went on, he did not seem to grow very big and he did not put weight on as expected. He also had a number of episodes where he wouldn’t eat. I contacted them to see if they had any explanation for these problems, and she was very helpful in taking me through the steps and showing me what to watch for. Over time those issue went away

He was small, very nice coat, beautiful. All I can say is that the puppy she gave us was conducted in a reasonable and professional matter. The coat was long and silky, not dual coated like when other breeds are mixed.

I would recommend purchasing dogs from a show breeder and prove your commitment to the breed. You are responsible for your puppy. Thank you for sharing your experience with the forum!

Rbohannon · 02-05-2016, 10:59 AM

I agree with Stacy that you are more than likely to get a better quality dog from a reputable breeder that is showing their dogs in the ring actively and testing for genetics before breeding. Although I do know of one breeder that shows her dogs and has had some champions........so really check around and even ask the breeder for references from previous customers. I have never bought from a breeder.......have three rescued maltese. So all of this is just my personal opinion.
And WELCOME TO YORKIE TALK!!!!!!

20milehike · 02-05-2016, 11:00 AM

They were good to work with. Better than many others I had talked to before we bought this dog. Quite a few were simply dismissive. Acting like I was dirt if I dared to ask about how many dogs they had for their breeding program, how they were maintained, worked and played with. I do prefer small breeders who only have periodic litters over the larger breeders who simply would not have time to play, work and train all their dogs. Strange mental qwerks pop up in dogs who spend too much time in a kennel/pen without human and other dog interactions. Myself, every dog is a pet who gets to run around the house and be part of the family. I think finding a reputable breeder who you can work with becomes one of the more difficult parts of either finding a regular dog to purchase as a pet, or to find breeding stock. I constantly come across internet enquiries who ask for information on reputable breeders of Yorkies. At this point I do not know enough about Yorkiemath to make an accurate comment on her viability as a good breeder. It is all too easy for any bad breeder to put up a nice web page, good wording and cute pictures. It is how they deal with you during tough times like these which separate those doing it for money and those doing it for better breeding.

On that note, I am trying to establish what a good breeding practice is with regards to the number of litters a female dog should have during the course of her life. My own gut feeling is that 3-4 is the most she should ever have, allowing at least one menstration period to occur after any litter, before breeding her again. I think we need to take into account that these are our pets, and not just baby machines.

I was in a skiing accident 6 years ago which landed me in a wheelchair for life. My paralysis from the broken back, is from the chest down and effects my balance considerably. Although not impossible, showing dogs at events can be difficult for me as simply going over rough ground, during outdoor shows, can be very difficult. In the future, my kids may get old enough that they gain an interest in showing the dogs and then I may have the ability to do that. Luckily the disability in no way really effects my relationship with my dog (was dog's). She is more than happy to sit on my lap while I run around the house. She is somewhat protective of me when strangers come around until she has sniffed them and gotten my verbal okay. A 6 pound fuzzy guard dog. As per any good dog stock she has never bitten anyone for any infraction, including taking her bones and food away. 5 minutes after meeting anyone, she wants to sit on their lap and be played with or patted.

Rbohannon · 02-05-2016, 11:00 AM

I'm so sorry to hear about your skiing accident. That has to be awful. how old are your kids? I have two, ages 11 and 12 (boy and a girl) My daughter shows in Junior showmanship and has since she turned 9 (the earliest you can show in juniors) She was the only one with a maltese at the Eukanuba dog show a few weeks ago and they showed very well. That was a big show for her!

I hope you can get things settled!

20milehike · 02-05-2016, 11:01 AM

First, a lot of pet breeders are pretty vocal about how good they are, how they back up any problems that occur etc. In the end we got a beautiful little dog and I will see if I can post his picture here shortly. his hair grows long and does not mat up like poor quality dogs have. I cut it shorter because I am in a wheelchair and cannot wash the dogs as often. I find the long long hair a lot to look after at times.

Would I deal with her again? I think I would consider her as one of my options. Personally I like to get my dogs from different locations over time. I like to use different breeders from different states or countries so there is no chance of mixed genetics. A lot of breeders do not follow what I consider to be proper genetic breeding practises and there is too much over lap of the same genetics when the grandson of one set of dogs is used with the grand daughter of another. When you look back through the generations you find the two dogs are from a similar genetic line.

It also happens when a dog bought from one breeder and another dog bought from a different breeder in the same or neighbouring state. Looking back you can find again similar parents only 2 generations ago. personally I like at least 4 generations between similar lines. A lot of people only look back 2 generations out of lazyness and that is when small or big genetic defects start creeping in. By buying from different breeders a long way away from each other there is almost no chance that similar genetic lines would crop up in different dogs.

As a second note, I think genetic problems do crop up periodically and that if you breed long enough you are going to see the odd dog with either physically visible issues or ones that are more difficult to see like the one in the dog I lost. Good breeding practises keep these down to a minimum, almost zero, but even the best breeders will periodically have a runt in the group, small defects or other issues such that the dog gets sold as a pet, not a breeding class of dog, etc. People that claim zero issues, are either lieing or are not looking hard enough for the problems. Few of the dog owners who buy a dog take the time to go back to the breeder if they find a problem. They just accept it and move on, maybe or maybe not, dealing with that breeder again.

In the end I do not have any reservations dealing with Yoriematch. There are better breeders out there with better class's of dogs. However, you get what you pay for and if you want a top class breeding dog you are going to pay a stiff penalty, even in these economic times. If you want a nice clean dog Yorkiematch is good for that. It all comes down to what you want to pay. I hope this covers this question,

ebpups · 02-05-2016, 11:02 AM

Okay, I know I'm just new but I have been poking around the forum to see what is discussed and came across this thread. I hope you don't mind if I am going back aways but maybe the same people who originally discussed this are still interested in what I have to say. I don't breed dogs, all of mine are fixed as I don't show in conformation, just rally and obedience. So I am not even going there.

In 2012I was looking for another dog. I looked all over on the net and couldn't get one here at the time. I stumbled across Yorkiematch. I looked through her website for a few days and then decided to contact her. She was expecting a litter at that time. I sent her a deposit and asked her to keep me a female. When the litter arrived she contacted me and said the one girl born had not made it. I asked if I could have a boy then and she said she had already taken deposits on all the boys. So she refunded me my deposit. While I was waiting for the litter we would email back and forth

So I asked if I could stop to meet her in person. Of course we were excited to see each other after all the contact we'd had via email and phone. So we stopped there. She showed me her dogs (she was now down to only three). The female was just about to have her babies and we missed them by only a few days. Believe me those dogs mean everything to her. I don't know what you would call her as she does not show her dogs (that I have ever heard of) but she does not have many litters. She is a very gracious lady and I liked her as much in person as I had in emails. I think she has a waiting list for her dogs all the time. Never once did she insist I leave the deposit with her and wait for another litter she just returned it. I have never felt pressure from her on anything. She is definitely not a puppy mill. Anyway, I wanted to add some info on her that I knew for sure as I have actually met her at her home.

Jyorkies · 02-05-2016, 11:04 AM

It is now more than a year since I purchase my dog and I am completely happy with him. His hair is nice and silky, hardly needing combing. It mats much less than my other dogs. He is happy and active with no medical issues to speak of. Would I buy from her again? Yes. I try not to let a person's economic situation dictate my buying decisions.

Good luck to everyone out there. Take the time to go to the odd dog show and make a weekend out of it. It's fun and in particular any dog agility shows a fun for the family.

ebpups · 02-05-2016, 11:04 AM

I'm glad that you could read my post as I just wanted to clear up the uncertainty that they ran a puppy mill. Her place is immaculate and the dogs are very well kept. I'm probably the only one on this forum that actually has met her and seen her dogs. I'm so happy that your dog has worked out so well. BTW I do understand why you want to be a breeder even though you are confined to a wheelchair. (I am really sorry to hear that) as I had a triple bypass about 15 years ago and I also have lots of other medical problems. I got immersed in trailing my dog in performance events and it just snowballed from there till I have 6 dogs now (and I've lost a couple). I know, and many people have commented, that I would not be here if I had not developed this interest and kept busy at it. So I offer you nothing but encouragement in your venture.

Jyorkies · 02-05-2016, 11:05 AM

I have kept my interest in the dogs alive and currently with my daughters dog, which is visiting, I have three yorkies in the house and one cat. It's like a pack of little polar bears.

When I first made the post I was upset that Yorkiematch had been slammed as a poor breeder, just because of people's impressions of her. None which were founded on facts. I did know her when she lived in considerably better housing and she had a proper dog run out back, etc. I was never there but have no reason to believe the pictures were manufactured to make her look better.

A breeder does not have to be rich to be a good breeder. I consider her a good breeder because in the end she stood behind her products. The question people should ask themselves when they go to buy a registered dog is things like:
References people can check out,

Internet check to find people who were unsatisfied and reasons for that: not all bad internet responses are valid, just as good ones can be rigged too.

How long have they been doing this: while a short time breeder may still be good, a long time breeder probably has to have reasonable dogs to stay in business.

02-05-2016, 06:50 AM	#1
Rbohannon YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Pheonix, AZ USA Posts: 3	Looking for a breeder in Arizona Please help! I've been searching for at least a month for a healthy Yorkie puppy. Does anyone know the reputation of Yorkiematch?? I've been reading your threads and you seem to be a really nice bunch of people. I don't know who else I can trust. Thank you in advance for any info./help!

02-05-2016, 09:45 AM	#2
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02-05-2016, 10:02 AM	#3
LBerrerra YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Chandler, AZ, USA Posts: 3	I don’t know a whole lot about them looking on the website all I can is that they are breeding for the "smaller" yorkies. While that doesn’t mean anything horrible, you need to be aware that the smaller ones need to watched closely.

02-05-2016, 10:03 AM	#4
LBerrerra YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Chandler, AZ, USA Posts: 3	All I know about them is that they are on The Yorkshire Terrier Club of America site as a breeder. That means that they are established and they have been around for long enough. It looks like they have shown some of their dogs in the past but haven’t been active in showing for a few years.

02-05-2016, 10:55 AM	#6
MCallister YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Mesa, AZ, USA Posts: 3	I just did a google search for this breeder. They advertise T-Cup puppies. I don’t believe in selling Tcup puppies. The breed standard is 7 lbs, and I feel these are too small. You really shouldn’t be looking to get a puppy that is that small. The larger ones are what the standard is. As long as you communicate with the breeder and ask about their health guarantees you should be safe.

02-05-2016, 10:59 AM	#8
Rbohannon YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Pheonix, AZ USA Posts: 3	I agree with Stacy that you are more than likely to get a better quality dog from a reputable breeder that is showing their dogs in the ring actively and testing for genetics before breeding. Although I do know of one breeder that shows her dogs and has had some champions........so really check around and even ask the breeder for references from previous customers. I have never bought from a breeder.......have three rescued maltese. So all of this is just my personal opinion. And WELCOME TO YORKIE TALK!!!!!!

02-05-2016, 11:00 AM	#9
20milehike YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Phoenix, Az Posts: 5	They were good to work with. Better than many others I had talked to before we bought this dog. Quite a few were simply dismissive. Acting like I was dirt if I dared to ask about how many dogs they had for their breeding program, how they were maintained, worked and played with. I do prefer small breeders who only have periodic litters over the larger breeders who simply would not have time to play, work and train all their dogs. Strange mental qwerks pop up in dogs who spend too much time in a kennel/pen without human and other dog interactions. Myself, every dog is a pet who gets to run around the house and be part of the family. I think finding a reputable breeder who you can work with becomes one of the more difficult parts of either finding a regular dog to purchase as a pet, or to find breeding stock. I constantly come across internet enquiries who ask for information on reputable breeders of Yorkies. At this point I do not know enough about Yorkiemath to make an accurate comment on her viability as a good breeder. It is all too easy for any bad breeder to put up a nice web page, good wording and cute pictures. It is how they deal with you during tough times like these which separate those doing it for money and those doing it for better breeding. On that note, I am trying to establish what a good breeding practice is with regards to the number of litters a female dog should have during the course of her life. My own gut feeling is that 3-4 is the most she should ever have, allowing at least one menstration period to occur after any litter, before breeding her again. I think we need to take into account that these are our pets, and not just baby machines. I was in a skiing accident 6 years ago which landed me in a wheelchair for life. My paralysis from the broken back, is from the chest down and effects my balance considerably. Although not impossible, showing dogs at events can be difficult for me as simply going over rough ground, during outdoor shows, can be very difficult. In the future, my kids may get old enough that they gain an interest in showing the dogs and then I may have the ability to do that. Luckily the disability in no way really effects my relationship with my dog (was dog's). She is more than happy to sit on my lap while I run around the house. She is somewhat protective of me when strangers come around until she has sniffed them and gotten my verbal okay. A 6 pound fuzzy guard dog. As per any good dog stock she has never bitten anyone for any infraction, including taking her bones and food away. 5 minutes after meeting anyone, she wants to sit on their lap and be played with or patted.

02-05-2016, 11:01 AM	#11
20milehike YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Phoenix, Az Posts: 5	First, a lot of pet breeders are pretty vocal about how good they are, how they back up any problems that occur etc. In the end we got a beautiful little dog and I will see if I can post his picture here shortly. his hair grows long and does not mat up like poor quality dogs have. I cut it shorter because I am in a wheelchair and cannot wash the dogs as often. I find the long long hair a lot to look after at times. Would I deal with her again? I think I would consider her as one of my options. Personally I like to get my dogs from different locations over time. I like to use different breeders from different states or countries so there is no chance of mixed genetics. A lot of breeders do not follow what I consider to be proper genetic breeding practises and there is too much over lap of the same genetics when the grandson of one set of dogs is used with the grand daughter of another. When you look back through the generations you find the two dogs are from a similar genetic line. It also happens when a dog bought from one breeder and another dog bought from a different breeder in the same or neighbouring state. Looking back you can find again similar parents only 2 generations ago. personally I like at least 4 generations between similar lines. A lot of people only look back 2 generations out of lazyness and that is when small or big genetic defects start creeping in. By buying from different breeders a long way away from each other there is almost no chance that similar genetic lines would crop up in different dogs. As a second note, I think genetic problems do crop up periodically and that if you breed long enough you are going to see the odd dog with either physically visible issues or ones that are more difficult to see like the one in the dog I lost. Good breeding practises keep these down to a minimum, almost zero, but even the best breeders will periodically have a runt in the group, small defects or other issues such that the dog gets sold as a pet, not a breeding class of dog, etc. People that claim zero issues, are either lieing or are not looking hard enough for the problems. Few of the dog owners who buy a dog take the time to go back to the breeder if they find a problem. They just accept it and move on, maybe or maybe not, dealing with that breeder again. In the end I do not have any reservations dealing with Yoriematch. There are better breeders out there with better class's of dogs. However, you get what you pay for and if you want a top class breeding dog you are going to pay a stiff penalty, even in these economic times. If you want a nice clean dog Yorkiematch is good for that. It all comes down to what you want to pay. I hope this covers this question,

02-05-2016, 11:02 AM	#12
ebpups YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Phoenix, Az Posts: 10	Okay, I know I'm just new but I have been poking around the forum to see what is discussed and came across this thread. I hope you don't mind if I am going back aways but maybe the same people who originally discussed this are still interested in what I have to say. I don't breed dogs, all of mine are fixed as I don't show in conformation, just rally and obedience. So I am not even going there. In 2012I was looking for another dog. I looked all over on the net and couldn't get one here at the time. I stumbled across Yorkiematch. I looked through her website for a few days and then decided to contact her. She was expecting a litter at that time. I sent her a deposit and asked her to keep me a female. When the litter arrived she contacted me and said the one girl born had not made it. I asked if I could have a boy then and she said she had already taken deposits on all the boys. So she refunded me my deposit. While I was waiting for the litter we would email back and forth So I asked if I could stop to meet her in person. Of course we were excited to see each other after all the contact we'd had via email and phone. So we stopped there. She showed me her dogs (she was now down to only three). The female was just about to have her babies and we missed them by only a few days. Believe me those dogs mean everything to her. I don't know what you would call her as she does not show her dogs (that I have ever heard of) but she does not have many litters. She is a very gracious lady and I liked her as much in person as I had in emails. I think she has a waiting list for her dogs all the time. Never once did she insist I leave the deposit with her and wait for another litter she just returned it. I have never felt pressure from her on anything. She is definitely not a puppy mill. Anyway, I wanted to add some info on her that I knew for sure as I have actually met her at her home.

02-05-2016, 11:04 AM	#13
Jyorkies YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Glendale, AZ, USA Posts: 2	It is now more than a year since I purchase my dog and I am completely happy with him. His hair is nice and silky, hardly needing combing. It mats much less than my other dogs. He is happy and active with no medical issues to speak of. Would I buy from her again? Yes. I try not to let a person's economic situation dictate my buying decisions. Good luck to everyone out there. Take the time to go to the odd dog show and make a weekend out of it. It's fun and in particular any dog agility shows a fun for the family.

02-05-2016, 11:05 AM	#15
Jyorkies YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Glendale, AZ, USA Posts: 2	I have kept my interest in the dogs alive and currently with my daughters dog, which is visiting, I have three yorkies in the house and one cat. It's like a pack of little polar bears. When I first made the post I was upset that Yorkiematch had been slammed as a poor breeder, just because of people's impressions of her. None which were founded on facts. I did know her when she lived in considerably better housing and she had a proper dog run out back, etc. I was never there but have no reason to believe the pictures were manufactured to make her look better. A breeder does not have to be rich to be a good breeder. I consider her a good breeder because in the end she stood behind her products. The question people should ask themselves when they go to buy a registered dog is things like: References people can check out, Internet check to find people who were unsatisfied and reasons for that: not all bad internet responses are valid, just as good ones can be rigged too. How long have they been doing this: while a short time breeder may still be good, a long time breeder probably has to have reasonable dogs to stay in business.