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teresa20051969 · 01-13-2006, 01:28 PM

i've been looking around at colors of yorkies and noticed a chocolate yorkie. i have a friend that told me that chocolate yorkies is a bad ressesive gene and not to consider getting one. what does everyone else think or know about the chocolate yorkies?

BamaFan121s · 01-13-2006, 01:40 PM

From what I understand, only the 'blue born' pups inherit more health issues, but not the chocolates and platinums.

teresa20051969 · 01-13-2006, 02:50 PM

THATS GOOD BECAUSE I THINK THE CHOCOLATES ARE VERY CUTE..

I'D LIKE TO HAVE ONE, ONE OF THESE DAYS

BLowry · 01-13-2006, 03:02 PM

Hi! I surf ALOT of Yorkie sites...I like to see what people have for sale and the prices...(Although I would never buy any animal off line without seeing their living conditions and the parents or, at least the mother). I have seen a couple of "chocolate" yorkies for sale. The price was high as they were being sold as "rare". I have NEVER heard of a chocolate yorkie. So......I e-mailed AKC and asked them about this..They said this color is not recognized by the AKC. Also to beware of breeders trying to sell this color as being rare. This would be considered a defect in the color...I am not saying you shouldn't get one just becareful of breeders trying to sell you a "rare" color pup for $$$$ when it really isn't rare at all.

teresa20051969 · 01-13-2006, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by BLowry

Hi! I surf ALOT of Yorkie sites...I like to see what people have for sale and the prices...(Although I would never buy any animal off line without seeing their living conditions and the parents or, at least the mother). I have seen a couple of "chocolate" yorkies for sale. The price was high as they were being sold as "rare". I have NEVER heard of a chocolate yorkie. So......I e-mailed AKC and asked them about this..They said this color is not recognized by the AKC. Also to beware of breeders trying to sell this color as being rare. This would be considered a defect in the color...I am not saying you shouldn't get one just becareful of breeders trying to sell you a "rare" color pup for $$$$ when it really isn't rare at all.

THANK YOU FOR THAT INFO...I'D LIKE ALL THE INFO ON THIS COLOR DOG...ANYONE ELSE WITH ANY INSITE WOULD BE GREATFUL..I'M GLAD TO KNOW ABOUT WHAT AKC HAS SAID ABOUT IT.

Sugar's Mom · 01-13-2006, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by teresa20051969

THANK YOU FOR THAT INFO...I'D LIKE ALL THE INFO ON THIS COLOR DOG...ANYONE ELSE WITH ANY INSITE WOULD BE GREATFUL..I'M GLAD TO KNOW ABOUT WHAT AKC HAS SAID ABOUT IT.

Some one was on here a few months ago trying to sell a chocolate one for eight thousand dollars. Ya'all member that one!!!!!!!

BamaFan121s · 01-13-2006, 04:45 PM

Teresa, there is another thread on the board right now discussing something along this same line. Here is the link:
Blue Gene
There has been a very good site posted on the thread explaining about color variation. Hope this helps.

I will PM you with a link where you can see a pic of an adult chocolate!

SoCalyorkiLvr · 01-13-2006, 05:23 PM

Teresa...whispersmom on here knows a lot about chocolates as she used to own one (may still) and she knows what it is that AKC says about them.

I have a gold and white parti-colored yorkie and they do register them AKC if both parents were AKC. I thought it was the same for the chocolates.

They are not common and are usually a little more in price but they are beautiful as all yorkies are.

You may want to do a search or even PM Whispersmom as she is very nice and knowledgeable.

shelbysmom · 01-13-2006, 06:04 PM

You are doing the right thing, learning all you can before you jump in. IMO they are like a lot of other confusing features that some yorkies are born with. Whether is is rare and therefore expensive OR if it is a defect that one should avoid is all up to who you are talking to. If it is a Yorkie you are after and you want to play it safe you should take the advice of the YTCA. website is www.ytca.org go to the FAQ section and read about off colored Yorkies.

another site is a long time breeder and Yorkie enthusiast. She was a very traditional and respected breeder. here is the link, scroll down for chocolate comments.

http://www.shooterdog.com/alexfaq3.htm

If I wanted a chocolate, or a parti, or a tri, or a Biewer, or a babydoll face or a tiny I would learn all that I could and proceed with caution. And if I felt fine with it, I would go for it.

Be sure this is what you want. Look at adult pictures of them. Are you going to be able to handle it whenever someone asks you what kind of dog you have? It may not bother you but we have a lot of posters who have non standard Yorkies and get really offended when someone asks.

good luck

troubletb · 01-13-2006, 06:09 PM

Go to this site ans scroll to the middle of the page, she dicusses Chocolate Yorkies.
http://www.shooterdog.com/alexfaq3.htm

shelbysmom · 01-13-2006, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by SoCalyorkiLvr

I have a gold and white parti-colored yorkie and they do register them AKC if both parents were AKC. I thought it was the same for the chocolates.

How do you register the parti, tri or chocolate color? It isn't a color choice on the form I have for Shelby. (been slow to send it in) the choices are black & tan, blue & gold, blue & tan, and black &gold.

How does someone register an off colored dog? I hear they do it but how?

SoCalyorkiLvr · 01-13-2006, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by shelbysmom

How do you register the parti, tri or chocolate color? It isn't a color choice on the form I have for Shelby. (been slow to send it in) the choices are black & tan, blue & gold, blue & tan, and black &gold.

How does someone register an off colored dog? I hear they do it but how?

One of the reasons Princess Chai's breeder registers her parti-colors with APRI instead of AKC is because AKC registered them as a traditional color until just recently so it was hard to track the pedigrees and actual colors of these special dogs. With APRI they have always put the correct colors in the record so the pedigrees are accurate. I know that AKC allows you to put the correct color now but I have not seen the form that is used or how they do it.

There is no evidence that parti-colored or chocolate yorkies have any more health issues than traditional colored yorkies...purists simply do not like them because they are not within the standard. Breeders used to use the health issue excuse as a reason to kill these beautiful babies at birth so they wouldn't "ruin" the breed. It is simply a matter of esthetics and not a reason to kill a perfectly sweet and healthy puppy imo, despite the "breed standard".

The fact is that the yorkie was developed from combining terriers of different colors and (some believe) the maltese, which means that those recesssive genes for all of those colors are there in the genes of some breeding yorkies and they pop up occasionally. This is how the Biewer Yorkie was developed. Mr. Biewer decided these dogs were beautiful and worth saving so instead of killing them he started breeding "for" them and now we have the tri-colored Biewers.

teresa20051969 · 01-13-2006, 06:30 PM

although they are beautiful little yorkies, i think i'm going to stay away from them. if i bought one, i couldn't breed it because i don't want to hurt the yorkie breed.everyone has good points and i thank you all but i guess i'll stay with the black and tan. everyone has been so helpful. sending me links and giving me the best info they could. thanks a bunch everyone

SoCalyorkiLvr · 01-13-2006, 07:30 PM

Glad we could help and good luck finding your new baby.

alpayton · 01-13-2006, 07:34 PM

I have a chocolate (see avatar), but he's just a pet to me at this point. He just weighs a little over 1 pound and a half @ 6 months of age! Lemme show you an updated photo.

01-13-2006, 01:28 PM	#1
teresa20051969 Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: tennessee Posts: 134	chocolate yorkie? i've been looking around at colors of yorkies and noticed a chocolate yorkie. i have a friend that told me that chocolate yorkies is a bad ressesive gene and not to consider getting one. what does everyone else think or know about the chocolate yorkies?

01-13-2006, 01:40 PM	#2
BamaFan121s YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Alabama Posts: 7,189	From what I understand, only the 'blue born' pups inherit more health issues, but not the chocolates and platinums. __________________ ...........Misty........... Trixie * Lexi * Chipsie

01-13-2006, 04:45 PM	#7
BamaFan121s YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Alabama Posts: 7,189	Teresa, there is another thread on the board right now discussing something along this same line. Here is the link: Blue Gene There has been a very good site posted on the thread explaining about color variation. Hope this helps. I will PM you with a link where you can see a pic of an adult chocolate! __________________ ...........Misty........... Trixie * Lexi * Chipsie

01-13-2006, 06:09 PM	#10
troubletb Love my Yorkies Donating Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: New Port Richey, Florida Posts: 2,241	Go to this site ans scroll to the middle of the page, she dicusses Chocolate Yorkies. http://www.shooterdog.com/alexfaq3.htm __________________ Karen~ Bell, Lilly and Peter's Mom http://www.freewebs.com/floridayorkies/

01-13-2006, 06:30 PM	#13
teresa20051969 Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: tennessee Posts: 134	chocolates although they are beautiful little yorkies, i think i'm going to stay away from them. if i bought one, i couldn't breed it because i don't want to hurt the yorkie breed.everyone has good points and i thank you all but i guess i'll stay with the black and tan. everyone has been so helpful. sending me links and giving me the best info they could. thanks a bunch everyone

01-13-2006, 02:50 PM	#3
teresa20051969 Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: tennessee Posts: 134	THATS GOOD BECAUSE I THINK THE CHOCOLATES ARE VERY CUTE.. I'D LIKE TO HAVE ONE, ONE OF THESE DAYS

01-13-2006, 03:02 PM	#4
BLowry Loved by Sadie & Lillie Donating Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 2,779	Hi! I surf ALOT of Yorkie sites...I like to see what people have for sale and the prices...(Although I would never buy any animal off line without seeing their living conditions and the parents or, at least the mother). I have seen a couple of "chocolate" yorkies for sale. The price was high as they were being sold as "rare". I have NEVER heard of a chocolate yorkie. So......I e-mailed AKC and asked them about this..They said this color is not recognized by the AKC. Also to beware of breeders trying to sell this color as being rare. This would be considered a defect in the color...I am not saying you shouldn't get one just becareful of breeders trying to sell you a "rare" color pup for $$$$ when it really isn't rare at all.

01-13-2006, 05:23 PM	#8
SoCalyorkiLvr BANNED! Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 8,246	Teresa...whispersmom on here knows a lot about chocolates as she used to own one (may still) and she knows what it is that AKC says about them. I have a gold and white parti-colored yorkie and they do register them AKC if both parents were AKC. I thought it was the same for the chocolates. They are not common and are usually a little more in price but they are beautiful as all yorkies are. You may want to do a search or even PM Whispersmom as she is very nice and knowledgeable.

01-13-2006, 06:04 PM	#9
shelbysmom YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 1,049	You are doing the right thing, learning all you can before you jump in. IMO they are like a lot of other confusing features that some yorkies are born with. Whether is is rare and therefore expensive OR if it is a defect that one should avoid is all up to who you are talking to. If it is a Yorkie you are after and you want to play it safe you should take the advice of the YTCA. website is www.ytca.org go to the FAQ section and read about off colored Yorkies. another site is a long time breeder and Yorkie enthusiast. She was a very traditional and respected breeder. here is the link, scroll down for chocolate comments. http://www.shooterdog.com/alexfaq3.htm If I wanted a chocolate, or a parti, or a tri, or a Biewer, or a babydoll face or a tiny I would learn all that I could and proceed with caution. And if I felt fine with it, I would go for it. Be sure this is what you want. Look at adult pictures of them. Are you going to be able to handle it whenever someone asks you what kind of dog you have? It may not bother you but we have a lot of posters who have non standard Yorkies and get really offended when someone asks. good luck

01-13-2006, 07:30 PM	#14
SoCalyorkiLvr BANNED! Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 8,246	Glad we could help and good luck finding your new baby.