Where to order vaccines

[AluvsE]

Hi all, I haven't been on in a long while, but my Coco had her puppies last Monday. I want to do all of the vaccinations myself (I'm an RN, so I know how to administer injections). I have two questions. First, what are some good websites to order from? My second question is which vaccines do you all recommend? I did a search on here for vaccines and needless to say, there was a lot of contradicting information. I would just like to know what most breeders recommend.

Thanks,
Andrea

[dawn27]

Thats something I know nothing about. I did have a friend who gave his puppies vaccinations. He purchased from (TSC) Tractor Supply Company. I know that you can buy deworming meds there.

I would suggest asking your vet. and make sure you know exactly how much to give. It can be very dangerous if overdosed even on preventative medications meant to help.

[MikaTallulah]

I am an RN too and have always taken my pups to the vet for their vaccines. Plus then you have documents to give the new owners that show they have been vet checked several times already. My vet gave a litter discount for vaccines.

I did look into it but it would not have been worth it anyway. I do know Drs Fosters and Smith sells the vaccines.

As the above poster stated I would talk with your vet.

[Yorkiemom1]

Lambert and Revival vet supply....I personally would not buy vaccines from a feed store! You need to have the health records to record your vaccinations....you buy them at the same time you buy your vaccines. I use Pro-Gard 5...10 years, never had a problem, knock on wood....you stick the label from the bottle onto the record....Be advised, a lot of vets will insist the owners of the new puppies re-vaccinate the babies....I always tell my buyers to talk with their vet of choice and see if they will accept the vaccinations I have given....if not, rather than risk OVER VACCINATING the baby, they need to reconsider the vet choice. I always interview my new owners vets also, just to re-inforce that I am an RN who is very well aware of temperature ranges for vaccines, and I know how to give injections. I sign my health certs with my professional signature. In 10 years, I have only had one vet not work with the new owner, and new owner did not listen to my advise. He re-vaccinated the puppy, gave the baby Lepto. injection, the baby had an anaphylactic reaction, died on the way home from the vet....and then the owner wanted me to refund her money!

[carmen in nj]

Before my son became a Vet Tech I got all my supplies from Revival animal, but I took the puppies to the vet for vaccines, when my son finished his Vet Tech school and went to work at the day practice , I started ordering the vaccines from Revival too..
now he just buys them at the clinic. Revival is my place of choice for everything else and if i ever have to go back to ordering vaccines they will be it, their customer service is great and the delivery super fast... not cheap but fast..
hugs,

[107barney]

Originally Posted by Yorkiemom1

Lambert and Revival vet supply....I personally would not buy vaccines from a feed store! You need to have the health records to record your vaccinations....you buy them at the same time you buy your vaccines. I use Pro-Gard 5...10 years, never had a problem, knock on wood....you stick the label from the bottle onto the record....Be advised, a lot of vets will insist the owners of the new puppies re-vaccinate the babies....I always tell my buyers to talk with their vet of choice and see if they will accept the vaccinations I have given....if not, rather than risk OVER VACCINATING the baby, they need to reconsider the vet choice. I always interview my new owners vets also, just to re-inforce that I am an RN who is very well aware of temperature ranges for vaccines, and I know how to give injections. I sign my health certs with my professional signature. In 10 years, I have only had one vet not work with the new owner, and new owner did not listen to my advise. He re-vaccinated the puppy, gave the baby Lepto. injection, the baby had an anaphylactic reaction, died on the way home from the vet....and then the owner wanted me to refund her money!

Reconsider vet choice because veterinary professional disagrees with breeder about vaccines? I think if a breeder told me that, I'd reconsider breeder choice. Vaccinations are medical decisions to be made jointly by owner and veterinarian. Breeder can give insight to buyer, but no breeder should insert themselves into the medical advice given to an owner by their veterinarian who is the one who is licensed to practice veterinary medicine. I also have no interest in having my breeder "interview" my vet - that's just weird.

[megansmomma]

Originally Posted by Yorkiemom1

Lambert and Revival vet supply....I personally would not buy vaccines from a feed store! You need to have the health records to record your vaccinations....you buy them at the same time you buy your vaccines. I use Pro-Gard 5...10 years, never had a problem, knock on wood....you stick the label from the bottle onto the record....Be advised, a lot of vets will insist the owners of the new puppies re-vaccinate the babies....I always tell my buyers to talk with their vet of choice and see if they will accept the vaccinations I have given....if not, rather than risk OVER VACCINATING the baby, they need to reconsider the vet choice. I always interview my new owners vets also, just to re-inforce that I am an RN who is very well aware of temperature ranges for vaccines, and I know how to give injections. I sign my health certs with my professional signature. In 10 years, I have only had one vet not work with the new owner, and new owner did not listen to my advise. He re-vaccinated the puppy, gave the baby Lepto. injection, the baby had an anaphylactic reaction, died on the way home from the vet....and then the owner wanted me to refund her money!

As a pet owner and member of a rescue organization that does vet checks to determine responsible pet ownership I would willingly allow a vet check to ensure a rescue or breeder that I was a responsible pet owner. But I would draw the line at having a breeder try to dictate to my vet how vaccines should be given. If a breeder is try to short cut on vaccines what other vetting are they short cutting on? Once again, we see a breeder blaming the owner. I can see the vet's feeling the need to re-vaccinating a puppy out of precaution. It makes no difference if you are an RN as this does not give you "special permission" to cross the line into practicing veterinary medicine. You hold yourself in too high esteem and crossed a line that should not be crossed by inserting yourself into a place that you do not belong. As an RN you should know this is a HUGE no~no to overstep your place in the medical care of a doctors patient in this case a puppy. That's a real leap~wow!

As for blaming the vet for over vaccinating, rescues will also vaccinate when a new foster comes their care. This is done for the sole reason that PEOPLE ARE DISHONEST.

Originally Posted by 107barney

Reconsider vet choice because veterinary professional disagrees with breeder about vaccines? I think if a breeder told me that, I'd reconsider breeder choice. Vaccinations are medical decisions to be made jointly by owner and veterinarian. Breeder can give insight to buyer, but no breeder should insert themselves into the medical advice given to an owner by their veterinarian who is the one who is licensed to practice veterinary medicine. I also have no interest in having my breeder "interview" my vet - that's just weird.

I couldn't agree more with your stance!

[gemy]

AS a breeder and a pet owner. IN either case I don't want over vaccinations of my pets. Period full stop.

AS a breeder I get my vet to do the puppy vaccinations; and my owners go with a full puppy package that includes a lot of info on vaccination protocols. I get the vet to do it, as there is a legitimate record in the eyes of other vets, which hugely limits the chance my pups will be over vaccinated.

As a pet owner, I would be extremely leery of buying from a breeder that does vaccinate their own pups. I don't want to run the hassle and quite real health threat to my pup, if my vet decides that in accoradance with their own beliefs and best practices insist on re giving vaccines already given. As a pet buyer it is a no win situation for me.

My word is let the vet's do it unless of course you are a vet breeder.

[Yorkiemom1]

I guess it is all in knowing how to speak professionally to a vet...NOT DICTATE to them how to practice medicine!! Non professionals sometimes get really intimidated by vets and doctors, and think "RNs should know their place"...hahahahaha....Fortunately, I know how to speak to both doctors and vets and they are not in the least bit threatened by my questions or concerns....Quite the contrary, they are quite impressed that a breeder even cares enough with the puppy's future to call and speak with them! After speaking with the vets, my vaccinations are accepted as reliable and accurate, and any questions I ask of the vet, is nothing but a clear indication I that truly do care about my puppies and their health care. As I said, in 10 years, there was only one instance where the vet was not willing to accept my vaccination program as valid, and the owner chose to follow her vet's advice. Her puppy ended up dead, which is, in some instances, an evidence based outcome which I fore warned my buyer about. I would imagine today, after the fact, she may very well wish she had listened to her breeder rather than her vet. I understand some buyers believe breeders should never challenge a vets opinion or judgement, just like some people think RNs should know their place around doctors. These are usually buyers I do not establish a working relationship with, just as a cardiovascular ICU nurse, I do not have to deal with family members that think RNs should "know their place". These people are thrilled they have someone that is knowledgable and concerned and an active team member in the care of their critically ill loved one.

[Micah my love]

Originally Posted by carmen in nj

Before my son became a Vet Tech I got all my supplies from Revival animal, but I took the puppies to the vet for vaccines, when my son finished his Vet Tech school and went to work at the day practice , I started ordering the vaccines from Revival too..
now he just buys them at the clinic. Revival is my place of choice for everything else and if i ever have to go back to ordering vaccines they will be it, their customer service is great and the delivery super fast... not cheap but fast..
hugs,

Revival is also my choice place to order from, I use Vanguard+5 no lepto
and i use 3cc luer lock syringes with needle 25x5/8, it is a very small needle not like the ones from tractor or other farm stores, i would never stick one of my puppies or adults with them

[Yorkiemom1]

Originally Posted by Micah my love

Revival is also my choice place to order from, I use Vanguard+5 no lepto
and i use 3cc luer lock syringes with needle 25x5/8, it is a very small needle not like the ones from tractor or other farm stores, i would never stick one of my puppies or adults with them

And Medco needles (we use these in the hospital) are the sharpest! I do use the 23 x 1....painless!

[Yorkiemom1]

Originally Posted by Micah my love

Revival is also my choice place to order from, I use Vanguard+5 no lepto
and i use 3cc luer lock syringes with needle 25x5/8, it is a very small needle not like the ones from tractor or other farm stores, i would never stick one of my puppies or adults with them

And Medco needles (we use these in the hospital) are the sharpest! I use the 23 x 1....painless!
Sorry about the double post...dont know how to erase it!

[concretegurl]

Originally Posted by AluvsE

Hi all, I haven't been on in a long while, but my Coco had her puppies last Monday. I want to do all of the vaccinations myself (I'm an RN, so I know how to administer injections). I have two questions. First, what are some good websites to order from? My second question is which vaccines do you all recommend? I did a search on here for vaccines and needless to say, there was a lot of contradicting information. I would just like to know what most breeders recommend.

Thanks,
Andrea

I'm not a breeder.

Over/early vaccinating is horrid, in fact I know a few very reputable breeders who refuse to vaccinate their "stock" period and only vaccinate the pups at their vets before going to their forever homes because it is legal required.

Please get a vet that will give you a breeder discount, come to your home if possible, and follow the Dr. Dodd protocol (as the reputable breeders here follow, swear by, recommend and caution buyers about finding vets who agree).

In the least this lets you off the hook for lots of liability issues and safeguards you against issues with the vaccines themselves as well as proper documentation for the future of the pups and their adoptive families.

I have always been torn on this because I know (several family members and close friends) who do their own vaccinations. I don't like it I say so and then hold my tongue because my opinion was stated.

Rabies in CA cannot be given to individuals for self administration to pets strange as it is the only required vaccine thus I think that's very telling.

Feed store vaccines are usual multi vaccines and wholesale bulk-so they aren't always name brand and or specialty singles most vets recommend for small dogs-like Yorkies.

Let the vet do this research and stay current on what's recalled no longer reccomended and what has been found to be problematic-vet's get drug company updates, current research articles etc that breeders and others would have to regularly seek out.

I, as a buyer have more confidence in a breeder who leaves, dew claw removal, tail docking and vaccinating to their vet in the proper setting...not a DIY task to save $. <--just MHO.

[megansmomma]

Originally Posted by Yorkiemom1

I guess it is all in knowing how to speak professionally to a vet...NOT DICTATE to them how to practice medicine!! Non professionals sometimes get really intimidated by vets and doctors, and think "RNs should know their place"...hahahahaha....Fortunately, I know how to speak to both doctors and vets and they are not in the least bit threatened by my questions or concerns....Quite the contrary, they are quite impressed that a breeder even cares enough with the puppy's future to call and speak with them! After speaking with the vets, my vaccinations are accepted as reliable and accurate, and any questions I ask of the vet, is nothing but a clear indication I that truly do care about my puppies and their health care. As I said, in 10 years, there was only one instance where the vet was not willing to accept my vaccination program as valid, and the owner chose to follow her vet's advice. Her puppy ended up dead, which is, in some instances, an evidence based outcome which I fore warned my buyer about. I would imagine today, after the fact, she may very well wish she had listened to her breeder rather than her vet. I understand some buyers believe breeders should never challenge a vets opinion or judgement, just like some people think RNs should know their place around doctors. These are usually buyers I do not establish a working relationship with, just as a cardiovascular ICU nurse, I do not have to deal with family members that think RNs should "know their place". These people are thrilled they have someone that is knowledgable and concerned and an active team member in the care of their critically ill loved one.

I too am a medical professional and know my place while speaking to the surgeons that I work with daily. Again, I think you are overstepping your profession as a nurse and mixing breeding, nursing and vet medicine into one lump.

[Yorkiemom1]

Originally Posted by megansmomma

I too am a medical professional and know my place while speaking to the surgeons that I work with daily. Again, I think you are overstepping your profession as a nurse and mixing breeding, nursing and vet medicine into one lump.

I am happy you admit that you "know your place". Good for you!