How do I convince someone not to breed their dog? - YorkieTalk.com Forums

ctsweety · 11-10-2005, 01:56 PM

I am currently a foster mother to an adorable 8 month old female yorkie. She is the sweetest dog I've ever known and I wish I could keep her. I am currently taking care of her for someone for a few months. She is currently in heat and when the owner took her to the vet yesterday, the vet recommended spaying her. The owner does not want to spay her because she wants to breed her in the future. The problem is that this person is not very responsible (kinda the reason I am taking care of her for now) and I am afraid she will breed her without doing any research. I think this dog has roach back. Is there any way of getting a professional to evaluate her and tell the owner she is not suitable for breeding?

I want what is best for the dog and I know if she doesn't get spayed she may have a miserable life with an irresponsible, uninformed breeder.

chachi · 11-10-2005, 02:01 PM

She looks really small? How big is she?

ctsweety · 11-10-2005, 02:04 PM

Unfortunately she's not very small so I can't use that angle to convince her. She's over 7 pounds.

chachi · 11-10-2005, 02:07 PM

Too bad she looks tinier than that in her picture. I would just tell her that she has faults and to breed her would be irresponsible. Ethical breeders try to improve the breed. I am sure the breeders on here can help you out more with this.

yorkieusa · 11-10-2005, 02:08 PM

I wish you could keep her, too.

Perhaps you could find a very reputable breeder to look at her to give you some reasons to relay to her why she shouldn't be bred besides her not being responsible enough to breed.

DomLee · 11-10-2005, 02:12 PM

What is her exact intention/purpose to consider breeding? The money maybe? Breeding to continue the blood lines? Become a professional breeder? Does the dog have AKC papers?

The thing is, if she is all "about the money" and her dog does not have papers...you can make it known to her that she will not fetch "top dollar" for her pups due to lack of AKC paperwork. Just an idea.

sylvan · 11-11-2005, 05:12 AM

You may want to try to focus on the fact that there is always a risk factor when breeding and yorkies can be prone to hisk risk complications. She wouldn't want to take a chance on losing her, right?

Diego · 11-11-2005, 05:24 AM

Sorry to say that but when a person have the idea of breeding the little ones there are almost nothing to say to convince them to not breed them .

ctsweety · 11-11-2005, 06:56 AM

DomLee,
I don't know what her exact intentions are for wanting to breed, but my guess is she wants to do it for the money. She says she paid $2400 for her and has papers of the past 8 generations, which she assumes makes her good breeding quality.

I don't know if they are AKC papers because she's never mentioned AKC. I haven't really expressed my concerns about breeding because I don't want her to think I'm telling her what to do with her dog. I'm afraid she might get upset and take the dog somewhere else (since she cannot keep her at her house yet). That is why I am trying to find a way to show her that she shouldn't breed her without offending her. The owner's mom (who I work with) was dissapointed when the vet recommended she be spayed and I expressed my feelings about not spaying to her mom (higher risk of cancer). She seemed clueless about the risks of not spaying.

It's a sticky situation but I want what is best for the dog.

Mueyinter · 11-11-2005, 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Diego

Sorry to say that but when a person have the idea of breeding the little ones there are almost nothing to say to convince them to not breed them .

I spoke to a breeder before that told me the same thing. The only thing you can do is try to educate her & make sure she is aware of the repercussions of her choice.

Yorkieluv · 11-11-2005, 07:25 AM

It's so hard to convince people who are ignorant about breeding. I'm sure she doesn't know a whole lot about the risks about breeding yorkies, and she probably doesn't even know the standard. Maybe you can print something off of AKC website that can show her what the standard is. Also remind her that her vet recommended spaying for a reason. Just a suggestion.

StewiesMom · 11-11-2005, 07:30 AM

What I would do is, go to an animal clinic or shelter and they'll have her spayed for free. Someone who needs to find a foster home for their dog because they're too busy shouldn't even have a DOG let alone try to breed responsibly. Where is Kimberley quote? "If you don't have time, get a stuffed animal".

Come to think of it, I hope these people are paying you to keep their dog. If they're not, give her to someone else. I'll take her and have her spayed.

It sounds like she doesn't even care about the dog, so I don't see any reason of breeding her except the money.

Gazou · 11-11-2005, 08:01 AM

My mentor just told me that to avoid the convincing issues is to have the pups spayed or neutered before leaving the home .Peoples will tell you something and do the other . If something wrong happens , it will be too easy to blame the breeder .

wnalegria · 11-11-2005, 09:19 AM

I am afraid that if the dog's owner really wants to breed her- there is nothing that you can do- Just repeat all that you have heard us say over and over again and hope that some of it will sink in. Just pray that some bells will go off in the owners head to make him/her change her mind.

Good luck

Kathy

YorkieRini · 11-11-2005, 09:21 AM

That is so true. I am so paranoid that I am altering my pet puppies before they leave.

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Originally Posted by Gazou

My mentor just told me that to avoid the convincing issues is to have the pups spayed or neutered before leaving the home .Peoples will tell you something and do the other . If something wrong happens , it will be too easy to blame the breeder .

11-10-2005, 02:01 PM	#2
chachi I Love My Yorkies Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Indianapolis, Indiana Posts: 23,116	She looks really small? How big is she? __________________ Chachi's & Jewels Mom Jewels http://www.dogster.com/?132431 Chachi http://www.dogster.com/?132427

11-10-2005, 02:07 PM	#4
chachi I Love My Yorkies Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Indianapolis, Indiana Posts: 23,116	Too bad she looks tinier than that in her picture. I would just tell her that she has faults and to breed her would be irresponsible. Ethical breeders try to improve the breed. I am sure the breeders on here can help you out more with this. __________________ Chachi's & Jewels Mom Jewels http://www.dogster.com/?132431 Chachi http://www.dogster.com/?132427

11-10-2005, 02:08 PM	#5
yorkieusa Crazy about Kacee! Donating Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Kansas Posts: 8,841	I wish you could keep her, too. Perhaps you could find a very reputable breeder to look at her to give you some reasons to relay to her why she shouldn't be bred besides her not being responsible enough to breed. __________________ Karen Kacee Muffin 1991-2005 Rest in Peace My Little Angel

11-11-2005, 07:30 AM	#12
StewiesMom Stewie Rox the Sox Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Chicago (Bridgeport) Posts: 6,290	What I would do is, go to an animal clinic or shelter and they'll have her spayed for free. Someone who needs to find a foster home for their dog because they're too busy shouldn't even have a DOG let alone try to breed responsibly. Where is Kimberley quote? "If you don't have time, get a stuffed animal". Come to think of it, I hope these people are paying you to keep their dog. If they're not, give her to someone else. I'll take her and have her spayed. It sounds like she doesn't even care about the dog, so I don't see any reason of breeding her except the money. __________________ Kristy & Stewie

11-11-2005, 09:19 AM	#14
wnalegria Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Indianapolis Indiana Posts: 816	I am afraid that if the dog's owner really wants to breed her- there is nothing that you can do- Just repeat all that you have heard us say over and over again and hope that some of it will sink in. Just pray that some bells will go off in the owners head to make him/her change her mind. Good luck Kathy __________________ Kathy http://klsyorkshireterriers.com

11-10-2005, 02:04 PM	#3
ctsweety Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Connecticut Posts: 31	Unfortunately she's not very small so I can't use that angle to convince her. She's over 7 pounds.

11-10-2005, 02:12 PM	#6
DomLee YT Addict Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: SoCal Posts: 300	What is her exact intention/purpose to consider breeding? The money maybe? Breeding to continue the blood lines? Become a professional breeder? Does the dog have AKC papers? The thing is, if she is all "about the money" and her dog does not have papers...you can make it known to her that she will not fetch "top dollar" for her pups due to lack of AKC paperwork. Just an idea.

11-11-2005, 05:12 AM	#7
sylvan YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Eastern PA Posts: 2,484	You may want to try to focus on the fact that there is always a risk factor when breeding and yorkies can be prone to hisk risk complications. She wouldn't want to take a chance on losing her, right?

11-11-2005, 05:24 AM	#8
Diego YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 3,166	Sorry to say that but when a person have the idea of breeding the little ones there are almost nothing to say to convince them to not breed them .

11-11-2005, 06:56 AM	#9
ctsweety Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Connecticut Posts: 31	DomLee, I don't know what her exact intentions are for wanting to breed, but my guess is she wants to do it for the money. She says she paid $2400 for her and has papers of the past 8 generations, which she assumes makes her good breeding quality. I don't know if they are AKC papers because she's never mentioned AKC. I haven't really expressed my concerns about breeding because I don't want her to think I'm telling her what to do with her dog. I'm afraid she might get upset and take the dog somewhere else (since she cannot keep her at her house yet). That is why I am trying to find a way to show her that she shouldn't breed her without offending her. The owner's mom (who I work with) was dissapointed when the vet recommended she be spayed and I expressed my feelings about not spaying to her mom (higher risk of cancer). She seemed clueless about the risks of not spaying. It's a sticky situation but I want what is best for the dog.

11-11-2005, 07:25 AM	#11
Yorkieluv Donating YT 3000 Club Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 6,986	It's so hard to convince people who are ignorant about breeding. I'm sure she doesn't know a whole lot about the risks about breeding yorkies, and she probably doesn't even know the standard. Maybe you can print something off of AKC website that can show her what the standard is. Also remind her that her vet recommended spaying for a reason. Just a suggestion.

11-11-2005, 08:01 AM	#13
Gazou YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 2,082	My mentor just told me that to avoid the convincing issues is to have the pups spayed or neutered before leaving the home .Peoples will tell you something and do the other . If something wrong happens , it will be too easy to blame the breeder .