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10-12-2010, 07:17 PM | #1 |
Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Tuscaloosa, Alabama, USA
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| When can they see Daddy? This is a really random question, but I had been wondering about this and so I thought I'd ask the breeders. When you guys (or gals rather ) breed your yorkies and after the mama has given birth, when is it okay for the daddy to see them? I was just curious as to how long he actually has to wait to see them before he can play and bond with them. |
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10-12-2010, 07:53 PM | #2 |
Donating YT 10K Club Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Alabama
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| Hmmm....well there isn't really a need per say for the stud to play and bond with the pups. The dam will be extremely protective of her pups for a long while and aggressive (possibly) to any dog she sees as a thread to them, even the sire. The female's instincts tell her how to act around the pups...dad will just see them as play things. So in short, introducing them when the pups are young could present several possible dangers. You kind of have to play it by ear. I would say minimum of 6-8 weeks, maybe? Act as if the sire is any other dog...not the dad. When would you be comfortable with any other dog being allowed access to them...and to mom? |
10-12-2010, 07:59 PM | #3 |
Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Tuscaloosa, Alabama, USA
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| Ohh okay! Honestly what brought this on was I was watching a show on wolves, and they were saying how the dad played a vital role in rearing the pups. I was just wondering if it was true of their canine cousins, haha. |
10-12-2010, 11:12 PM | #4 |
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| haha I have found that if anything.. the "dad's" seem to be afraid of the babies.. so it is best to wait until they are at least 8-12 weeks old to introduce them
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10-13-2010, 11:50 AM | #5 |
Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Palm Bay, Fl, USA
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| There are exceptions to everything When I bred Lhasa's, Hsun-Ni my little stud took his role as daddy very seriously. When we brought our Lhasa's to the USA from England, we had to stay with my father in law who didn't allow dogs in the house so we had to leave the dogs in kennels until we could find a house and move in. This was in June. I specifically asked the kennels to keep Tee-Nah and Hsun-Ni apart as she was due to come in heat and I did not want her to get pregnant this cycle - last litter she had to have a C-section so I did not want to risk her getting pregnant and having puppies in boarding kennel. It was August before we could move into a house, and as soon as we got the phone on I called the kennel to let them know we would be picking up the dogs as soon as all our things had arrived in a few days. I got a call that evening that Tee-Nah was having puppies! (now we had visited the kennels weekly to check on the dogs and there were no indications that Tee-Nah was pregnant, and we were assured that they were keeping Hsun-Ni and Tee-Nah apart. Apparently that day that Tee-Nah had the puppies the kennel girl had left for the day, then she remembered that she hadn't put the "hot spot" ointment on Tzu-Hsi, our other female. So she went back. When she got back Hsun-Ni was going crazy to get her attention, barking at her, when she went to check, he ran back to Tee--Nah - she was giving birth! They wouldn't have known until the next day if Hsun-Ni hadn't alerted the girl when she went back. We went and picked up all the dogs (the 3 Lhasas and the 2 Yorkies and Tee-Nah's puppies )that night and brought them home. Hsun-Ni was watching over and protecting Tee-Nah and the puppies. Even after we brought them home he was protective of Tee-Nah and her puppies. It didn't surprise me, because when we got Tee-Nah she was a tiny "runt" who wasn't expected to live (the breeder was just going to let "nature take its course, Tee-Nah was the smallest of a large litter and the mom wasn't feeding her), we begged to have her to try and save her. Hsun-Ni was only about 3 months old at the time. I sat up every night the first few nights with Tee-Nah on my lap and feeding her drop by drop from a syringe. The vet didn't think she would make it. When I had to put her down I put her in the crate with Hsun-Ni, in the morning I would look and Hsun-Ni would be licking her clean and waking her up. He was actually acting like a Mommy to her. The two of them became inseperable. So, I wasn't surprised that he was watching over her in the kennel. But they weren't supposed to be together! There were 6 puppies and we lost one after a few days. But the other 5 all survived and were healthy.
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10-13-2010, 11:52 AM | #6 |
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| My male wanted nothing to do with the pups. He acted afraid of them until they were old enough to chase him, then he was just annoyed at their presence. He is putting up with Annie (my little female pup -- not his litter). But he wsa not happy about her joining the family. He will let her chase after him out in the yard finally without acting mean about it. He has never snapped or bittenm, but he has made a low growl until I tell him to stop. They aren't like people where the dad wants to parent too. Their job is done at the tie. I know that sounds cold but that's the truth. Just read Beamer's post -- maybe I just have a bad daddy dog!
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10-13-2010, 12:34 PM | #7 |
Mardelin Yorkshire Terriers Donating Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: California
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| I don't introduce my pups to their sire until much older (that is the ones I'm going to keep), usually about 5 or 6 months of age. I want nothing to interfere with my pups self confidence, so I only introduce them to other females at about 10 weeks of age.....
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10-13-2010, 01:38 PM | #8 | |
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| Quote:
Sylvia (got to remember to put my name on my posts, otherwise I will lose my identity and will always be just known as "Beamer's Mom")
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10-13-2010, 01:42 PM | #9 |
Mardelin Yorkshire Terriers Donating Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: California
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| Occassionally you'll have a sire that is a wonderful dad.....doesn't happen often.
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10-13-2010, 01:45 PM | #10 |
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| I was really blessed with him.
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10-13-2010, 01:48 PM | #11 |
Mardelin Yorkshire Terriers Donating Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: California
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| My Charmer is very attentive to the dam during the gestation period. When she's a week away from her first due date, she's placed in the whelping crib. I have to place a bed for him right beside the crib. He'll run and let us know when she needs to be pottied or needs anything. But, once those pups are whelped, he's out of there.
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10-13-2010, 03:50 PM | #12 |
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| Just like with kids. I was called _(enter one of 3 sons' names) ' Mom for a long time! I am bad about remembering everyone's real name here. But I will probably remember you are Sylvia now.
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10-13-2010, 04:55 PM | #13 |
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| It is taking me a while to figure out posters real names. But I am getting there slowly
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10-14-2010, 06:56 AM | #14 |
Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: ohio
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| my daddy loves them! my daddy loves the puppies! After about 4 weeks mommy wouldn't feed them regularly anymore and the dad now seems more protective than mommy! They all run around the house and play together. The puppies really love picking on dad. I think it really depends on the dad. |
10-22-2010, 04:48 PM | #15 |
Donating YT 2000 Club Member | We have a staircase in our house. At about 9 or 10 weeks of age, puppies here start trying to go up and down them. At about that time Itzi, my stud, will get involved and help the puppies pushing the biewer puppies' rears up the stairs and assisting them. It is really cute to watch. Then when they reach the top he runs down and wants them to chase them. By the time they really catch on--it looks like a train of biewer pups chasing their dad up and down the stairs. He also teaches them the doggie door if the weather is appropriate and I let them follow him out. So sometimes the sire can take over teaching when the dam is playing with the pups. |
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