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09-19-2010, 04:04 AM | #1 |
YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: belfast, northern ireland
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| callies puppies; they sound ok, right!?! please bear with me!... its a really long story, but i'll cut it short... a friend adopted an imasiated female rottie from the pound 3 weeks ago. a week and a half ago her tummy had grown even though she hadnt reached her proper build yet (and still hasnt). after a trip to the vet it was confirmed- callie is going to have babies. the vet (not my usual) said she was due anywhere from a weeks time to 3 weeks and there were at least 3 strong heartbeats (after her owners heard that, a spay was out of the question, and she was pretty far along), and last night i thought i could make out 5 puppies moving. for the past few days shes been showing signs of early labour... this apparently started 35 hrs ago, and at 10 last night she started contracting and pups started moving into possition. but still no puppies! my girls always have them within 24hrs of the paseing starting, and i know i'm just lucky that they are so predictable, but im starting to worry a bit because she is still so weak. my mentor and usual vet are both unreachable atm, and even though shes a rottie and pretty darn different from yorkies, i would still appreciate any and all advise... callie trusts me, so she'll let me help when the time comes, i just wish she could let us know when that is! i'm scared that if this stage lasts too long she wont have the energy to deliver them all.
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09-20-2010, 04:09 AM | #2 |
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| update my nerves are shot! she has now decided that she isnt quite ready for the puppies to be born, which is a good thing as she still needs to build herself up a bit... it just would have been nice of her to inform us of this! she stoped her panting etc last night and all the pups are still doing good... the vet has had more calls from us than i care to count! shes definately getting close, but not there yet. does anyone have experience with bigger breeds? the worst of it is, we have no idea what breed or even general size the sire is- he could be a spaniel, he could be a wolfhound! i should be intending on assissting the exact same way i would with my girls, shouldn't i? there is only soo much you can learn via the web in 2 weeks about a breed! it took me well over 2 years researching yorkies constantly before we got missy.
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09-20-2010, 06:45 AM | #3 |
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| Most likely what she was experiencing earlier was just the puppies dropping. That usually happens a few days before the delivery. I highly recommend you assist in the delivery just as you would with a yorkie. Good luck with the whelping.
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09-20-2010, 06:55 AM | #4 |
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| I admire you for trying to help the rottie deliver her puppies. I'm sure that if you have experience in whelping Yorkies, you shouldn't have a problem with her. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the bigger dogs seem to have it a little easier. The only advice I have is to get your mentor and a vet to stand by, get your whelping supplies ready and make sure the bitch has a peaceful, comfortable spot to relax in. Is she eating fine? If so, give her as much food as she needs. If her muscles are depleted, she will need the energy in her blood to keep her strength. It's always risky to deliver a bitch when the stud is unknown, but do what you know. I think you can give her some Nutrical to get her glucose up. If she shows signs of distress, get her to the vet. I hope that helps. Try posting on big breed forums for advice and try to get a breeder of big dogs to help you. Otherwise, keep the vet close by!
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09-20-2010, 03:25 PM | #5 |
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| thanks for the replys! she has very little muscle mass for her breed-we currently have her on the small puppy james well belloved and i have some glucose (dextrose powder) ready for mixing in a little cheese or pate during whelping and the rest of the supplies ready and waiting! i'm nearly expecting a call tonight for some reason... her whelping area she picked out is the built-in closet in the owners bedroom- if they wont relax while shes delivering i'll have to send them out of the room wont i? i don't want to be unnessesarliy rude; after all it is their dog, bt they'll want the best for her... i tried posting on the rottie forums but it wouldnt let me because i havn't been a member long enough?!? i really am hoping that the 'bigger dogs have it easier' rule holds true!
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09-21-2010, 07:46 AM | #6 |
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| Big dogs do generally have it easier, but that being said, not knowing the breed of the sire.. I would be very nervous. Is it possible to still have an x-ray done? I think I would want that basic information on the number of puppies and more importantly on the size of the puppies in comparison to the birth canal. oh and bless you on being such a help to this dog
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09-21-2010, 09:37 AM | #7 |
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| Big dogs can have their share of problems too. I had a St. Bernard that had to have a c-section one time. She totally rejected her pups afterwords. Hopefully you won't experience any problems with the whelping. Just make sure that the owners are well aware of the signs of mastitis because that is a common problems with lots of nursing females, small and large.
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09-21-2010, 04:40 PM | #8 |
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| ~~~~progress report~~~~ at about 2pm i got a call from a frantic furbaby-papa saying the waters had broke and a puppy was on the way! within about 5 minutes i was standing outside his door whelping kit in hand... callie had delivered the 1st puppy and her people-momma had managed to tear the sack for her (callie was pretty clueless), but there was another pup half out- i got there just in time for him. he took a bit of convincing but we got him breathing and cuddled up with his sister. puppy 3 came 15 minutes later and 4 came 20 mins after that- both had ruptured sacks so loads of fluid that needed removed and we were left minus one placenta. puppy 5 came 30 mins later with no problems- the same with number 6. puppy 7 was another ruptured sack with a severed chord leaving another retained placenta; after 7-8minutes the bleeding stopped and he was breathing perfectly normally. puppy 8, YES !8!, came 40 mins later- just after i hung up from the vet asking about the retained placentas, i know they say it can be reabsorbed, but i've heard soo many times of it causing fatal infections i wasnt keen on risking it!. as puppy 8 came out he was quickly followed by an extra placenta, so only one left! after a really good feel (and 45 mins) we concluded she must be done- how could she possibly have any more? what callie; you still want to push?!? gahh! this whole time callies momma and papa sat patiently in the next room, checking in on her between puppies- so when i saw some feet appear with no sack around them i didnt really want to call them. she wasnt moving and looked so fragile, but a few minutes of rubbing and a cleared out throat did the trick! i dont think i've ever been so close to losing a pup at whelp- it was a worse feeling than i ever imagined- if i didnt have plans to keep another pup (of kukis 2nd litter) i would have snapped her up there and then- just to thank her for breathing for me! so, a round of a z for the last baby. we now have nine healthy rottiex puppies; 6boys and 3girls! remembering that callie was soo thin- and at 7 1/2 weeks pregnant weighed 35kg even though her normal nonpregnant weight should be about 45kg- i think thats quite an achievment for her! her tiniest puppy weighs 13.9oz and the biggest 14.9oz... not numbers we usually have to deal with at birth! and at about 9.30pm she passed the retained placenta, so thats a big weight off my mind! so, sorry for the long story, but i think it goes without say; callie did good! and thankyou all for your advice and encouragement- it is greatly appreciated by us all!
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09-21-2010, 04:54 PM | #9 |
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| All I can say is WOW....you and Callie did a great job! |
09-22-2010, 07:37 AM | #10 |
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| Congratulations on delivering a healthy litter of pups!
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09-22-2010, 09:39 AM | #12 |
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| Congradulations and great job on the delivery!!! You are truly an Angel!!! |
09-22-2010, 03:17 PM | #13 |
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| Good Job! I'm so glad you were able to help Callie, her puppies, and their humans out. You are a great person to be there for them. Teresa |
09-23-2010, 12:23 AM | #14 |
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| Congratulations on delivering all the puppies! You and Callie did an awesome job! And nine puppies - wow. I am so happy that they are all doing well!
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09-23-2010, 03:01 PM | #15 |
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| Just have the family be prepared to bottle feed. With that many pups any momma would have a hard go at it and starting so emaciated it will demand too much from her. I hope she is being given lots and lots of great dog food and extra calcium to boost her. Even with that they may have to supplement feed some of the pups once in a while to not use up moms so needed nutrients for her...
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