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09-12-2010, 08:59 AM | #1 |
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| Registries? What's the difference? When I bought my yorkie about a year ago I didn't know much about them or the many registries. All I knew was I liked the yorkie breed and had been wanting one for a while but couldn't afford it. My boyfriend found a breeder in Iowa while we were there visiting and I now have my much adored Gracie. She is APRI registered. I have heard bad and good about it. Everyone seems to want the akc registered yorkies? What is the difference? My Gracie seems to be just as cute or cuter than the akc ones? |
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09-12-2010, 09:19 AM | #2 | |
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Well it is not about being cute, or cuter. Many registries, accept on a whole lot of flimsy evidence and will register a dog or a litter. As a pet owner your first concern should have been about the health testing of the dam and sire. What genetic tests were done? LS LP CERF OFA for hips elbows knees? I hope your Gracie remains healthy. Just remember you should get BATS done/repeated at 6mths of age.
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09-12-2010, 11:37 AM | #3 | |
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Other things like health, size or conformation can not be proved just by the registry of the puppy or dog. Basically, no matter what kind of registry the dog has, you need to make sure you get a good responsible breeder. Someone here mentioned: "You buy the breeder first" and that expresses it well. Good Luck with your girl. Post her pictures ! XOXO
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09-12-2010, 12:48 PM | #4 |
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| Congrats on your new baby girl, a lot of people register APRI but that does not mean that your baby is not as good. I had a little girl several years ago that was absolutly beautiful. just give your baby lots of big hugs and be proud of her
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09-14-2010, 01:00 PM | #5 |
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| Thanks Thanks for the replies. Gracie is a very healthy yorkie. She is on the heavier end weighing in at seven lbs. Personally I think that the heavier ones tend to be healthier, not that the smaller ones can't be healthy just as an overall observation. After posting I decided to call AKC and ask what their requirements are for registering a yorkie will them and was told if I send in gracies APRI papers and her pedigree I could register with them as well. I was excited to hear this since I have had criticism from many for her being APRI. She is the center of our household and it saddens us when she is not looked at as the perfect little princess she is lol. It's funny how this breed can so quickly take over your heart. |
09-14-2010, 01:53 PM | #6 | |
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09-14-2010, 02:39 PM | #7 |
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| You may want to double check on that as what you have described is NOT their policy at all. You cannot have a dog that is registered with APRI registered by AKC by sending in the pedigree you get form APRI. In order to register her, her parents have to be AKC registered and you have to get an application from the breeder. |
09-14-2010, 03:04 PM | #8 |
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| It looks like the AKC will now register a dog registered with another registry if the pedigree can prove there was no break in AKC ancestors. Maybe that's what they were talking about? Are all Gracie's relatives AKC registered? For a dog with papers from a non-AKC accepted domestic registry AKC has a new program where we are researching pedigrees of dogs that do not have AKC paperwork to determine if the dog comes from AKC registrable stock. In order to determine AKC registration eligibility, you will need to send AKC a copy of your dog’s pedigree, registration application and/or registration certificate from another registry. You can also submit documentation provided by the breeder such as a contract or bill of sale. The dog may qualify for registration if the pedigree shows no break in AKC lineage and the dogs in the pedigree originate from AKC registrable stock. Should the dog be deemed registrable, AKC staff will register the dog in question for $30. All late fees will be waived. When you submit your paperwork, please include your name and phone number. You can submit the paperwork in one of three ways: 1. Fax the information to 919-816-3770. Mark it attn: Registry Research. 2. Email images to altreg@akc.org. Place Registry Research in the subject line 3. Mail to: AKC Registry Research Attn: Special Services 8051 Arco Corporate Drive Suite 100 Raleigh, NC 27617 American Kennel Club - Dog Registration Questions |
09-14-2010, 06:57 PM | #9 |
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| It is my understanding though that the dogs would have had to have been eligible for registration with AKC, but for whatever reason, were not registered by the breeder. Not simply dogs registered with another registry. Alternate registration alone is not enough....the AKC lines have to be traceable. You have to have the AKC reg #s for both the dog's parents. So if all the OP has is the dogs info through APRI, then registration of the dog would be denied by AKC. Also, the dogs original breeder would have to give consent and AKC would verify it, including for purposes of limited vs full registration--i.e. the dog was not placed on limited registration and the breeder didn't without registering them purposely. Does that make sense? It's very misleading. In many cases you see people trying to use it as a loophole to get their dogs AKC registration when the breeder never intended that to be the case. Also, by misleading would be owners who may be under the impression that getting their dogs registered with AKC is possible when it's not. Last edited by BamaFan121s; 09-14-2010 at 06:58 PM. |
09-14-2010, 07:13 PM | #10 |
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| Also, you can "register" a pet dog of any kind (I mean dog of any background, this includes mutts) with the AKC in order to participate in their agility and obedience trials. However, this registration is very limited. All you get is an AKC # or something like that. It doesn't guarantee pedigree or anything like that. At least, that's what I've seen. Don't anyone quote me on that.
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09-14-2010, 07:14 PM | #11 | |
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I doubt many dogs actually qualify once the pedigree is researched by the AKC. | |
09-14-2010, 07:44 PM | #12 |
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| They may have been talking about the pet registry - allowing as mentioned to compete in agility or obediance, but they pet would also have to have proof of being spayed/neutered before registry can go through. This is not the same as registry with the parents being AKC and rest of ancestors being AKC. |
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09-15-2010, 02:07 AM | #14 |
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| I thought it had to be something like that. I'm not sure if the OP is wanting to breed or not, but it brings up the question. If the parents were AKC and it's proven and she can register her dog AKC. What would it be mean if she had a litter, since her breeder didn't register? I'm guessing a breeder that was using APRI may not care about someone having breeding rights, but I'm curious how that would be handled. I don't get in general why if the parents were AKC registered the breeder would have gone with APRI anyway though.
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I know that one of mine only had CKC registration when I got her. Both her parents were AKC reg, but the breeder (or rather her daughter) was only interested in competing in fun agility events, which they always did through CKC. I was on a waiting list for a dog from her and she offered to register the litter with AKC, but I told her not to bother. At the time, I really didn't see what the big deal was. I considered before going back and getting her AKC reg, but at this point, I figured, what does it matter, ya know? | ||
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