What, in your esteemed opinion, is a "reputable" breeder?

[Jorja Rules]

And what are the responsible reasons for breeding?

Just curious.

[yorkie_mama22]

Originally Posted by Jorja Rules

And what are the responsible reasons for breeding?

Just curious.

I'm not a yorkie breeder but I do plan on breeding my Bull terrier later this year. I have my reasons for breeding and I can share those with you as well as my opinions about a "reputable breeder" which I hope to be. I am not really into the "showing" aspect although it does interest me.

We purchased our Bull terrier almost a year and a half ago with the intention of "possibly" breeding her one day. My husband had done his research and searched for a dog for 6 months prior to getting her. Unfortunately we got her from a far away breeder and they haven't really been interested in keeping contact with us. But I did find a wonderful reputable breeder right after we got our dog to mentor me. I've been talking to her for over a year now and she has even offered to stud out her champion male with my female when the time is right. She has taught me about all the important HEALTH TESTING I need to do for this particular breed and given me a list of questions I need to ask my vet about breeding my dog. She is in the midst of helping me put together a contract for potential new owners. This lady is a show breeder and has very few dogs, she doesn't breed often and is very involved with this breed, going to shows, being in contact with other breeders and belongs to the Bull terrier club.

I'm not looking to breed to make money. I understand that the money we will spend on health testing, vet care during pregnancy and aftercare for the babies will not leave us with a big profit.

My husband and I want to breed this breed of dog because we love this breed and want to improve it as best as we can by having healthy and standard puppies.

We are hopeful that if and when we have our first litter we will have a show prospect that we CAN show and champion to build a strong healthy line.

I had a horrible experience with my first yorkie and I can't imagine being an irresponsible breeder and bringing a family the heartache I had to deal with.


I think what makes a good reputable breeder is someone who is not looking to make a profit, "have a miracle of life" or just have a litter for the hell of having a litter. Someone who truly takes an interest in the breed, and the improvement of the breed is someone who is reputable to me. SOmeone who takes the time to make sure their dogs are healthy and within the standard before breeding two dogs they have.

I could go on but I will leave it at this and hopefully someone else can comment on their reasonings.

[Beamers Mom]

Originally Posted by Jorja Rules

And what are the responsible reasons for breeding?

Just curious.

The motto of the responsible breeder of purebred dogs is "Breed to Improve."

[gemy]

Originally Posted by Jorja Rules

And what are the responsible reasons for breeding?

Just curious.

Well seeing as you have already bred your bitch, I find your question interesting to say the least.

Like the other poster here, I plan on breeding BRT;s not Yorkies, in furtherance of my goal I have spent 7 years studying, and showing, and competing, putting titles on my male, doing all the health checks necessary. My goal is to maintain the working qualities of our breed, and also their show qualities, with excellent health, and temperament.

I have now conducted judging seminars on this breed, and put together a web presentation on the conformation of this breed.

The responsible reasons for breeding; at the best to improve the breed, at the minimum to maintain the breed standard.

Whatever the size of your female is you put your female at risk when you breed her. You as the breeder need to provide health guarantees, and be prepared to support the owners of your dogs for life.

There are no short cuts to breeding responsibly. You literally carry the life of your female in your hands. You need to be prepared for that emotionally as well as financially.

[Beamers Mom]

Jorja Rules, What is your reason for breeding?

[YorkieRose]

I do not know if there is a valid reason to produce pets to populate the world. If all I wanted was a pet dog to love, I would adopt a small puppy from the pound..BUT I want a Yorkie. I love the breed, everything about it..I want my "pet" to look like a Yorkie, act and be all Yorkie.
How is that achieved? IMO that is done by studying the standard, go to shows, show, keep in close contact with other reputable breeders etc.. and produce the best example of the breed as possible.

If strict adherance is not paid to the standard, then in a matter of a few short years, the Yorkie will not be a Yorkie...it is the responsibility of the ethcial, responsible, reputable breeder to preserve the breed.

[mojo]

I can tell you what I think it is not. It is not just letting your dogs get friendly, forgetting about your girl and then a week or two before whelping you wonder to yourself if maybe your girl might be pregnant and thinking maybe now is the time to learn about whelping.
Shame.

[Mardelin]

Reputable Breeder

1. Dedication to producing quality dogs is serious avocation. Has so much invested in dogs that he struggles to break even, not make a profit. Will sell pups only to approved buyers.
2. Can explain how planned breedings are used to emphasize or minimize specific qualities through linebreeding, outcrossing, or more rarely, inbreeding.
3. Does not breed dogs younger than age 2. .
4. Written contractural commitment to replace a dog with genetic faults or to help owner deal with problem.
5. Loves the breed and can talk at length about its background, uses, and ideal type.
6. Has an investment in dog equipment and the puppies environment is sanitary and loving.
7. Belongs to national, regional, and/or local dog clubs, indicating a love for the sport of purebred dogs. Shows their dogs as an objective test of how his stock measures up.
8. Shows litter and dam in a sanitary environment. Helps buyer evaluate and choose a pup. Explains criteria for "show prospects" versus "pet picks".
9. Prices will be at the high end of local range. Price will not reflect all that is invested in the pups. A reputable breeder never profits from the sale of puppies. Does not advertise in the newspaper. Has an established waiting list for the pups.
10. After purchase, will help you with grooming or training problems. Will take back a pup you cannot keep rather than see it disposed of inappropriately. Sells pets with spay/neuter agreement and on AKC limited registration.


Backyard Breeder


1. Motive for breeding: "fun", "good for kids", "to make money". Does not screen buyers and seldom refuses to sell, even if buyer is unsuitable.
2. Breeds the family pet to any convenient pet of the same breed just to have purebred pups. Has no understanding or concern with genetics, pedigree bloodlines, or breed improvement.
3. Though the pets (sire/dam of pups) may be well loved, they were not tested
4. Offers no health guarantee beyond proof of shots, if that. Unqualified to give help if problems develop
5. Seller has little knowledge of breed history, the national breed club or of the AKC breed standard. May claim this does not matter for "just pets".
6. Pups raised in makeshift accommodations, sometimes unsanitary, indicating lack of long-term investment in breeding and lack of true care for the puppies well-being.
7. Even when selling "just pets", may produce AKC papers or "championship pedigrees" as proof of quality. Yet seller does not increase his own knowledge through participation in national, regional, or local breed clubs. Is not involved in showing their dogs to "prove" quality.
8. May be unwilling to show a buyer the entire litter or to introduce the dam of the litter. Cannot or will not compare/critique pups or pup’s ancestors.
9. Prices are at the low end of local range, since must move pups quickly. Advertises in the local newspaper classifieds. .
10. No concern for the future of individual pups or the breed as a whole. Does not use AKC’s limited registration option or ask for spay/neuter contract to guard against the breeding of sub-standard pups. If you cannot keep pup, tells you to take it to a dog pound or to sell it.

[manolos mom]

Originally Posted by gemy

Well seeing as you have already bred your bitch, I find your question interesting to say the least.

Like the other poster here, I plan on breeding BRT;s not Yorkies, in furtherance of my goal I have spent 7 years studying, and showing, and competing, putting titles on my male, doing all the health checks necessary. My goal is to maintain the working qualities of our breed, and also their show qualities, with excellent health, and temperament.

I have now conducted judging seminars on this breed, and put together a web presentation on the conformation of this breed.

The responsible reasons for breeding; at the best to improve the breed, at the minimum to maintain the breed standard.

Whatever the size of your female is you put your female at risk when you breed her. You as the breeder need to provide health guarantees, and be prepared to support the owners of your dogs for life.

There are no short cuts to breeding responsibly. You literally carry the life of your female in your hands. You need to be prepared for that emotionally as well as financially.

Very well said....

[Beamers Mom]

Originally Posted by Mardelin

Reputable Breeder

1. Dedication to producing quality dogs is serious avocation. Has so much invested in dogs that he struggles to break even, not make a profit. Will sell pups only to approved buyers.
2. Can explain how planned breedings are used to emphasize or minimize specific qualities through linebreeding, outcrossing, or more rarely, inbreeding.
3. Does not breed dogs younger than age 2. .
4. Written contractural commitment to replace a dog with genetic faults or to help owner deal with problem.
5. Loves the breed and can talk at length about its background, uses, and ideal type.
6. Has an investment in dog equipment and the puppies environment is sanitary and loving.
7. Belongs to national, regional, and/or local dog clubs, indicating a love for the sport of purebred dogs. Shows their dogs as an objective test of how his stock measures up.
8. Shows litter and dam in a sanitary environment. Helps buyer evaluate and choose a pup. Explains criteria for "show prospects" versus "pet picks".
9. Prices will be at the high end of local range. Price will not reflect all that is invested in the pups. A reputable breeder never profits from the sale of puppies. Does not advertise in the newspaper. Has an established waiting list for the pups.
10. After purchase, will help you with grooming or training problems. Will take back a pup you cannot keep rather than see it disposed of inappropriately. Sells pets with spay/neuter agreement and on AKC limited registration.


Backyard Breeder


1. Motive for breeding: "fun", "good for kids", "to make money". Does not screen buyers and seldom refuses to sell, even if buyer is unsuitable.
2. Breeds the family pet to any convenient pet of the same breed just to have purebred pups. Has no understanding or concern with genetics, pedigree bloodlines, or breed improvement.
3. Though the pets (sire/dam of pups) may be well loved, they were not tested
4. Offers no health guarantee beyond proof of shots, if that. Unqualified to give help if problems develop
5. Seller has little knowledge of breed history, the national breed club or of the AKC breed standard. May claim this does not matter for "just pets".
6. Pups raised in makeshift accommodations, sometimes unsanitary, indicating lack of long-term investment in breeding and lack of true care for the puppies well-being.
7. Even when selling "just pets", may produce AKC papers or "championship pedigrees" as proof of quality. Yet seller does not increase his own knowledge through participation in national, regional, or local breed clubs. Is not involved in showing their dogs to "prove" quality.
8. May be unwilling to show a buyer the entire litter or to introduce the dam of the litter. Cannot or will not compare/critique pups or pup’s ancestors.
9. Prices are at the low end of local range, since must move pups quickly. Advertises in the local newspaper classifieds. .
10. No concern for the future of individual pups or the breed as a whole. Does not use AKC’s limited registration option or ask for spay/neuter contract to guard against the breeding of sub-standard pups. If you cannot keep pup, tells you to take it to a dog pound or to sell it.

This should be a sticky

[Jorja Rules]

Originally Posted by Beamers Mom

The motto of the responsible breeder of purebred dogs is "Breed to Improve."

I like that.

[Jorja Rules]

Originally Posted by Beamers Mom

This should be a sticky

It should! It would save everyone a lot of time and emotional energy.

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by Jorja Rules

It should! It would save everyone a lot of time and emotional energy.

This information is all over the internet. Each breed club follows it.

Every breeder's goal should be to breed to standard and improve the breed. In other words, leaving it better than you found it.

[Jorja Rules]

Originally Posted by Mardelin

Reputable Breeder

1. Dedication to producing quality dogs is serious avocation. Has so much invested in dogs that he struggles to break even, not make a profit. Will sell pups only to approved buyers.
2. Can explain how planned breedings are used to emphasize or minimize specific qualities through linebreeding, outcrossing, or more rarely, inbreeding.
3. Does not breed dogs younger than age 2. .
4. Written contractural commitment to replace a dog with genetic faults or to help owner deal with problem.
5. Loves the breed and can talk at length about its background, uses, and ideal type.
6. Has an investment in dog equipment and the puppies environment is sanitary and loving.
7. Belongs to national, regional, and/or local dog clubs, indicating a love for the sport of purebred dogs. Shows their dogs as an objective test of how his stock measures up.
8. Shows litter and dam in a sanitary environment. Helps buyer evaluate and choose a pup. Explains criteria for "show prospects" versus "pet picks".
9. Prices will be at the high end of local range. Price will not reflect all that is invested in the pups. A reputable breeder never profits from the sale of puppies. Does not advertise in the newspaper. Has an established waiting list for the pups.
10. After purchase, will help you with grooming or training problems. Will take back a pup you cannot keep rather than see it disposed of inappropriately. Sells pets with spay/neuter agreement and on AKC limited registration.


Backyard Breeder


1. Motive for breeding: "fun", "good for kids", "to make money". Does not screen buyers and seldom refuses to sell, even if buyer is unsuitable.
2. Breeds the family pet to any convenient pet of the same breed just to have purebred pups. Has no understanding or concern with genetics, pedigree bloodlines, or breed improvement.
3. Though the pets (sire/dam of pups) may be well loved, they were not tested
4. Offers no health guarantee beyond proof of shots, if that. Unqualified to give help if problems develop
5. Seller has little knowledge of breed history, the national breed club or of the AKC breed standard. May claim this does not matter for "just pets".
6. Pups raised in makeshift accommodations, sometimes unsanitary, indicating lack of long-term investment in breeding and lack of true care for the puppies well-being.
7. Even when selling "just pets", may produce AKC papers or "championship pedigrees" as proof of quality. Yet seller does not increase his own knowledge through participation in national, regional, or local breed clubs. Is not involved in showing their dogs to "prove" quality.
8. May be unwilling to show a buyer the entire litter or to introduce the dam of the litter. Cannot or will not compare/critique pups or pup’s ancestors.
9. Prices are at the low end of local range, since must move pups quickly. Advertises in the local newspaper classifieds. .
10. No concern for the future of individual pups or the breed as a whole. Does not use AKC’s limited registration option or ask for spay/neuter contract to guard against the breeding of sub-standard pups. If you cannot keep pup, tells you to take it to a dog pound or to sell it.

Wow! Solid. Succinct. Thorough. It's really too bad there are not these kinds of guidelines set for reproducing humans.

You know, a several years ago I was in the process of becoming a licensed home day care provider and at the same time my cousin was in the process of becoming a licensed kennel owner and Shih Tzu breeder. Guess who was "approved" first and with the least time and expense incurred?

Thank you for taking time to prepare and post this extensive check list. It's very insightful.

[Jorja Rules]

Originally Posted by mojo

I can tell you what I think it is not. It is not just letting your dogs get friendly, forgetting about your girl and then a week or two before whelping you wonder to yourself if maybe your girl might be pregnant and thinking maybe now is the time to learn about whelping.
Shame.

Tsk. Tsk. Didn't your teachers ever make you read directions before answering the test questions?