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3PawsomeYorkies · 05-25-2010, 11:51 AM

How did you get your start in breeding? im curious to know when that first thought of breeding your yorkie was born, what about your decison justified all the potential risks you warn others of now? If anyone needs me to clarify the question please let me know. Im not very sure that question is coming out the way I mean it to.

YorkieRose · 05-25-2010, 04:46 PM

I come from a family of dog fanciers.
My father bred/showed Boxers in the UK, one aunt was into Dobies and the other Pekes. A close family friend showed poodles for many years.

I fell in love with Yorkies and breeding was the next natural step for me. I take breeding very serious..I have always tried to breed a quality puppy as close to the standard as possible.

I have never been one to discourage anyone who is dedicated from breeding a quality dog of a good pedigree..how else can the breed survive?..but I do discourage the breeding of pets, designer breeds and non-standard Yorkies.

3PawsomeYorkies · 05-25-2010, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by YorkieRose

I come from a family of dog fanciers.
My father bred/showed Boxers in the UK, one aunt was into Dobies and the other Pekes. A close family friend showed poodles for many years.

I fell in love with Yorkies and breeding was the next natural step for me. I take breeding very serious..I have always tried to breed a quality puppy as close to the standard as possible.

I have never been one to discourage anyone who is dedicated from breeding a quality dog of a good pedigree..how else can the breed survive?..but I do discourage the breeding of pets, designer breeds and non-standard Yorkies.

Wow! Thats awesome! Thank you so much for sharing!

BamaFan121s · 05-25-2010, 06:25 PM

I began researching breeding and working with breeders before I got my dogs, as opposed to after. The way I see it, that's a very important factor--to do your research first--so that you are more enabled to choose the dogs you desire for stock.
A lot of times I see people wanting to learn so they can breed a dog they have in the future. Just makes more sense in my mind that preparing and learning should be done in advance.

As far as risks are concerned, yes of course there are risks. However, I think that those risks are greatly reduced if you have a good grasp of what you are doing in advance. I generally see people being advised of the risks when it is evident that they have a lot to learn before they begin. It's not something you just pick up on as you go or in a matter of weeks or months of internet research.

Brooklynn · 05-26-2010, 06:04 AM

It takes a lot of research before getting into this endeavor. Know what you are doing way before getting into breeding because its less heartache and less problems. Start out the right way and find a mentor and breed to the best representation of the breed. Know the standard forward and backward. Pick a breeder/mentor and study, study and study some more!
This breed needs to be preserved!!! Too many promoting off colors and straying away from the standard!!!!!!

Donna

WinstonMom · 05-26-2010, 06:27 AM

I bred maltese many years ago and took a break from breeding to raise my family. When I came back to it with yorkies, breeding was a much different world. So many people now are just breeding dogs for money, with no thought to the quality of the animals that they are breeding or to preserving the standard of the breed. It was much easier in the past to find a mentor and start with great show prospects and breeding stock. So many of the long time breeders have been burnt by people who are not totally honest that it can take a long time to earn a mentor's trust.
Showing is actually my thing, puppies I love to have around but I hate whelping and putting my girls at risk, so I breed very rarely and with a lot of thought to make sure I am improving my stock with every breeding. There is a lot of study and record keeping involved with proper breeding. I had a lot of trouble finding a mentor due to my geography, living in the middle of nowhere in Canada but having a great mentor is the key to success.
I have been showing and breeding yorkies for about 6 years now, so I am still very much a newbie with a lot to learn yet.

3PawsomeYorkies · 05-26-2010, 07:07 AM

Thanks guys!

Lorraine · 05-26-2010, 07:19 AM

I got a pet yorkie from the start but got interested in showing and maybe breeding. I had kind of a bad start because I ended up with byb's selling to me although at the time I had no idea what a byb was and that there was a different route. However, I found that different route mostly because something just did not sit right with what the byb's were telling me. That's why I get my back up real quick with people who are breeding and will sell for pet or show without ever having a clue about the breed nor know much about the show rings because that was done to me.
I did find a good show breeder mentor eventually and went on from there.

Brooklynn · 05-26-2010, 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Lorraine

I got a pet yorkie from the start but got interested in showing and maybe breeding. I had kind of a bad start because I ended up with byb's selling to me although at the time I had no idea what a byb was and that there was a different route. However, I found that different route mostly because something just did not sit right with what the byb's were telling me. That's why I get my back up real quick with people who are breeding and will sell for pet or show without ever having a clue about the breed nor know much about the show rings because that was done to me.
I did find a good show breeder mentor eventually and went on from there.

I know what ya mean. I had to start over with my breeding program. I bred to good sires but the bitch I had was a pet. But I have since started over and learned quickly it's best to start out with the best of the best and that is attending dog shows, meeting breeder/exhibitors and research way before getting into breeding. Didn't take me long to turn my program around because I learn quickly.
Always know the pedigrees and lines and research until you know everything frontwards and backwards and always breed to the best of the breed standard as possible and of course with "HEALTH" being of the "UTMOST" of importance!!!!

YorkieRose · 05-26-2010, 07:56 AM

DOUBLE DITTO..I had to start over and I bought my first few Yorkies from show breeders!!!
IMO, it is easier today to get a good foundation bitch or show potential...more people are showing, more are breeding and placing decent stock to trusted fanicers.

When I started Yorkies were way down on the AKC populatity poll...so that meant fewer good breeders to buy from, most kept it all and I got border line stuff...

Example...I was talking to two show breeders recently...both had good bitch puppies to sell..one had 5 show potential males...

Brooklynn · 05-26-2010, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by YorkieRose

DOUBLE DITTO..I had to start over and I bought my first few Yorkies from show breeders!!!
IMO, it is easier today to get a good foundation bitch or show potential...more people are showing, more are breeding and placing decent stock to trusted fanicers.

When I started Yorkies were way down on the AKC populatity poll...so that meant fewer good breeders to buy from, most kept it all and I got border line stuff...

Example...I was talking to two show breeders recently...both had good bitch puppies to sell..one had 5 show potential males...

I"m not sure how easy it is to get from some of the top show breeders because trust has been broken with them but I totally understand where they are coming from. I'm still searching for a show/foundation bitch but I want top quality with healthy parents and lines. I'm patient and still gaining trust from the breeder I want to get my bitch from. I'm building trust from them so patience is the key

I'd rather show than breed so hence waiting is ok with me LOL!

Sookie · 05-26-2010, 08:10 AM

I had my first litter of Yorkies over 30 years ago. I bred her to a Radnor champion - Radnor yorkies were owned by a woman who started the YTCA club that I belong to.

My next litter was 9 months ago, two puppies, both of whom I kept. I am showing the girl, Gidget, and have neutered the boy, Sebastian, as my pet. I think they are both very nice puppies. Their sire is a champion from Indiana. Their dam is my Kalina - I searched long and hard for Kalina. I wouldn't have been able to get such a nice girl if I didn't have the recommendations that I had from other Yorkie people. I will not be breeding on a big scale - in fact I will do very little breeding - but I will definitely breed for the betterment of the breed; that's something that all members of the YTCA agree on.

YorkieRose · 05-26-2010, 08:19 AM

I understand..and it would come down to whose Yorkies we admire and would like to buy a Yorkie from...
What worked for me was to ask the "Top breeders" to refer me to a reputable breeder who used their studs..from there I was able to buy.

Example...I asked Rothby for a referrral..she sent me to a breeder who had a Gator litter..I bought a male, I bred that male and my first champion was his son.
Also, Trivar, at the time Johnny had the number one..he referred me to two people I bought a bitch each...

I realize these people are gone and that is how I got some good stock.. but I have recently talked with names we all know and respect..they are most willing to refer...

Brooklynn · 05-26-2010, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by YorkieRose

I understand..and it would come down to whose Yorkies we admire and would like to buy a Yorkie from...
What worked for me was to ask the "Top breeders" to refer me to a reputable breeder who used their studs..from there I was able to buy.

Example...I asked Rothby for a referrral..she sent me to a breeder who had a Gator litter..I bought a male, I bred that male and my first champion was his son.
Also, Trivar, at the time Johnny had the number one..he referred me to two people I bought a bitch each...

I realize these people are gone and that is how I got some good stock.. but I have recently talked with names we all know and respect..they are most willing to refer...

Yes they are willing to refer LOL but are they willing to sell? LOL....and yes it all comes down to who we admire the most and the ones we prefer

Back then it was easier to get from some of the top breeders, harder now I think.

Donna

YorkieRose · 05-26-2010, 08:39 AM

We can agree to disagree..LOL..I think it is easier now.

I do not want to name living breeders..but when a referral is given, it is to a stud client who IS willing to sell.

I think Lorraine who be happy to tell you how nice Betty Anne was to deal with...

05-25-2010, 11:51 AM	#1
3PawsomeYorkies Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Houston, Tx, Harris Posts: 82	Breeders...share your story.... How did you get your start in breeding? im curious to know when that first thought of breeding your yorkie was born, what about your decison justified all the potential risks you warn others of now? If anyone needs me to clarify the question please let me know. Im not very sure that question is coming out the way I mean it to.

05-26-2010, 06:04 AM	#5
Brooklynn Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 4,280	It takes a lot of research before getting into this endeavor. Know what you are doing way before getting into breeding because its less heartache and less problems. Start out the right way and find a mentor and breed to the best representation of the breed. Know the standard forward and backward. Pick a breeder/mentor and study, study and study some more! This breed needs to be preserved!!! Too many promoting off colors and straying away from the standard!!!!!! Donna __________________ Brooklynn's Yorkshire Terriers www.brooklynnyorkies.com

05-26-2010, 06:27 AM	#6
WinstonMom YT Addict Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Saskatchewan Posts: 384	I bred maltese many years ago and took a break from breeding to raise my family. When I came back to it with yorkies, breeding was a much different world. So many people now are just breeding dogs for money, with no thought to the quality of the animals that they are breeding or to preserving the standard of the breed. It was much easier in the past to find a mentor and start with great show prospects and breeding stock. So many of the long time breeders have been burnt by people who are not totally honest that it can take a long time to earn a mentor's trust. Showing is actually my thing, puppies I love to have around but I hate whelping and putting my girls at risk, so I breed very rarely and with a lot of thought to make sure I am improving my stock with every breeding. There is a lot of study and record keeping involved with proper breeding. I had a lot of trouble finding a mentor due to my geography, living in the middle of nowhere in Canada but having a great mentor is the key to success. I have been showing and breeding yorkies for about 6 years now, so I am still very much a newbie with a lot to learn yet. __________________ Audrey

05-26-2010, 07:19 AM	#8
Lorraine Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Abbotsford, BC Posts: 2,060	I got a pet yorkie from the start but got interested in showing and maybe breeding. I had kind of a bad start because I ended up with byb's selling to me although at the time I had no idea what a byb was and that there was a different route. However, I found that different route mostly because something just did not sit right with what the byb's were telling me. That's why I get my back up real quick with people who are breeding and will sell for pet or show without ever having a clue about the breed nor know much about the show rings because that was done to me. I did find a good show breeder mentor eventually and went on from there. __________________ Lorraine www.loribenyorkies.com Canada

05-26-2010, 08:10 AM	#12
Sookie My Four Sweet Babies Donating Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: South Jersey near Philadelphia Posts: 5,452	I had my first litter of Yorkies over 30 years ago. I bred her to a Radnor champion - Radnor yorkies were owned by a woman who started the YTCA club that I belong to. My next litter was 9 months ago, two puppies, both of whom I kept. I am showing the girl, Gidget, and have neutered the boy, Sebastian, as my pet. I think they are both very nice puppies. Their sire is a champion from Indiana. Their dam is my Kalina - I searched long and hard for Kalina. I wouldn't have been able to get such a nice girl if I didn't have the recommendations that I had from other Yorkie people. I will not be breeding on a big scale - in fact I will do very little breeding - but I will definitely breed for the betterment of the breed; that's something that all members of the YTCA agree on. __________________ I LOVE MY BABIES

05-25-2010, 04:46 PM	#2
YorkieRose No Longer a Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: South Florida Posts: 8,577	I come from a family of dog fanciers. My father bred/showed Boxers in the UK, one aunt was into Dobies and the other Pekes. A close family friend showed poodles for many years. I fell in love with Yorkies and breeding was the next natural step for me. I take breeding very serious..I have always tried to breed a quality puppy as close to the standard as possible. I have never been one to discourage anyone who is dedicated from breeding a quality dog of a good pedigree..how else can the breed survive?..but I do discourage the breeding of pets, designer breeds and non-standard Yorkies.

05-25-2010, 06:25 PM	#4
BamaFan121s Donating YT 10K Club Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Alabama Posts: 11,432	I began researching breeding and working with breeders before I got my dogs, as opposed to after. The way I see it, that's a very important factor--to do your research first--so that you are more enabled to choose the dogs you desire for stock. A lot of times I see people wanting to learn so they can breed a dog they have in the future. Just makes more sense in my mind that preparing and learning should be done in advance. As far as risks are concerned, yes of course there are risks. However, I think that those risks are greatly reduced if you have a good grasp of what you are doing in advance. I generally see people being advised of the risks when it is evident that they have a lot to learn before they begin. It's not something you just pick up on as you go or in a matter of weeks or months of internet research.

05-26-2010, 07:07 AM	#7
3PawsomeYorkies Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Houston, Tx, Harris Posts: 82	Thanks guys!

05-26-2010, 07:56 AM	#10
YorkieRose No Longer a Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: South Florida Posts: 8,577	DOUBLE DITTO..I had to start over and I bought my first few Yorkies from show breeders!!! IMO, it is easier today to get a good foundation bitch or show potential...more people are showing, more are breeding and placing decent stock to trusted fanicers. When I started Yorkies were way down on the AKC populatity poll...so that meant fewer good breeders to buy from, most kept it all and I got border line stuff... Example...I was talking to two show breeders recently...both had good bitch puppies to sell..one had 5 show potential males...

05-26-2010, 08:19 AM	#13
YorkieRose No Longer a Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: South Florida Posts: 8,577	I understand..and it would come down to whose Yorkies we admire and would like to buy a Yorkie from... What worked for me was to ask the "Top breeders" to refer me to a reputable breeder who used their studs..from there I was able to buy. Example...I asked Rothby for a referrral..she sent me to a breeder who had a Gator litter..I bought a male, I bred that male and my first champion was his son. Also, Trivar, at the time Johnny had the number one..he referred me to two people I bought a bitch each... I realize these people are gone and that is how I got some good stock.. but I have recently talked with names we all know and respect..they are most willing to refer...

05-26-2010, 08:39 AM	#15
YorkieRose No Longer a Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: South Florida Posts: 8,577	We can agree to disagree..LOL..I think it is easier now. I do not want to name living breeders..but when a referral is given, it is to a stud client who IS willing to sell. I think Lorraine who be happy to tell you how nice Betty Anne was to deal with...