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03-31-2010, 04:50 PM | #1 |
Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Port Charlotte, FL, USA
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| How can I fin a stud for my lil girl. She just came in heat and we need a daddy! I have a four year old 8 pound female AKC yorkie. I have never fixed her because my vet had advised me that going through one birthing cycle is good for a female for future health problem concerns like reducing risks for tumors and things. So here we are 4 years later and I am tired of the heating cycles and recently she got outside and was ost for a few hours and I was so scared if we didnt find her that the wrong person might turn her into a puppy mil. anyways...... I would like to breed my lil girl and she just came into heat yesterday. Any advise? I am located in Port Charlotte FL. Thanks!! Last edited by admin; 03-31-2010 at 06:48 PM. Reason: edited |
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03-31-2010, 04:53 PM | #2 |
Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Yakima, Washington USA
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| 1. GET A NEW VET 2. Get her fixed after her cycle 3. Enjoy your Yorkie. Never heard a real Vet say anything close to that! |
03-31-2010, 04:56 PM | #3 |
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| It is against YT rules to ask for or offer stud services. FYI, at four years old, she is too old to her her first litter. Her pelvic bones aren't flexible enough anymore. A pregnancy and delivery could be very dangerous for her. If you are tired of heat cycles, get her spayed. The health benefits come from spaying, not allowing her to have a litter. If you had spayed her earlier, you would have eliminated her risk of ever getting mammary tumors. You can still eliminate her risk of pyometra, a life threatening uterine infection older unspayed females are at risk for. |
03-31-2010, 04:56 PM | #4 |
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| It is not advised to breed one for the first after the age of 3 years old. It would be a risk now to her at her age. You might want to check out the Central Florida Yorkshire Terrier Club for more information about it all (whelping, age, studding, standard, quality, health issues, testing, etc..) : Yorkshire Terrier Club of America Affiliate Clubs I know some members there and they are very nice. P.S. It is actually healthier for to have a girl spayed before she comes into heat. Reduces certain cancers, etc... So many more benefits. Last edited by topknot; 03-31-2010 at 04:58 PM. |
03-31-2010, 05:01 PM | #5 |
Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Port Charlotte, FL, USA
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| I had asked for advice on this in the past and got a lot of negative responses. I don't get why everyone is so against breeding dogs? I mean we all own a yorkie correct? and if someone didnt breed them how would we have gotten the chance to own one of these sweet little babys? and I love my vet and he is an old school farm sort of vet that lives a country life much like i did and i also beleave it is a natural cycle of a females body to go throught the birth process. those female parts they have are there for a reason and just as in humans, once they are put to use that does lower the risks for female tumors and cancers. |
03-31-2010, 05:05 PM | #6 |
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| If by negative, you mean we are telling you about the health risks of breeding a female over three and the higher risk of cancer and pyometra in unspayed females, well, then I guess we are negative. I hesitated to report this thread for violating the rules as I hoped you could get some good advice, but I guess you are not open to it. |
03-31-2010, 05:07 PM | #7 |
Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Port Charlotte, FL, USA
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| i had only read the first response when i replied and had not gotten to the useful info part and as for violating any YT rules i am not asking for a stud. I am asking for advice and that is what i am getting |
03-31-2010, 05:11 PM | #8 |
Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Port Charlotte, FL, USA
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| the only risks and concerns my vet warned me to look out for were diseases that she could catch from breeding and to be cautious of the stud i choose. I see two of you mentioned she is too old to breed now. I saw my vet less tahn a year ago and he never mentioned that age could be an issue. I will be sure to research some into the ages and breeding concerns. How is it you both know so much about these things. Do u breed your dogs? |
03-31-2010, 05:12 PM | #9 |
Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Port Charlotte, FL, USA
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| thanks for the website topknot! |
03-31-2010, 05:14 PM | #10 | |
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03-31-2010, 05:16 PM | #11 |
Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Port Charlotte, FL, USA
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| I agree, I know I am late in the game.. i didnt have her cycle marked on the calander. She only comes in once a year and I wasnt prepared for it |
03-31-2010, 05:16 PM | #12 | |
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1) Your female is over the size standard for the breed. 2) If she is in heat now, you should have been researching the breeding process trying to find a complimenting stud a long time ago. 3) 4 yrs is too old to SAFELY breed a female for the first time--at this time, her pelvic structure is 'set' and will not shift to accommodate a litter. 4) There are NO health benefits to breeding a female. There are actually lots or RISKS if you breed without having a thorough knowledge of the breeding process. Spaying, however, DOES have health benefits. The reason that you are getting a lot of negative feedback is because people are answering in regards to your female's best interest rather than with your feelings as their main concern. (No surprise there--it is a YORKIE site.) Those who have responded and who promote responsible breeding do not agree with your views on the matter or your motivations--thus why you are not getting a lot of support and encouragement. If you really want to breed and are willing to thoroughly research and heed the advice of people who have LOTS of experience, then you will get all the support you could want and then some here on YT and elsewhere, but if not...you will be hard pressed to find someone willing to guide you through breeding when they disagree with you. | |
03-31-2010, 05:19 PM | #13 |
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| No one is being negative but merely telling you the truth. Apart from her pelvic bones being set and not having the spring in them to deliver a litter, the uterus is by now less elastic. With each heat cycle, the uterus is bombarded with progesterone, which leads to it thickening if she wasn't bred. By 4 years old and not being bred, she has had enough heat cycles for the uterus to have thickened and to have lost elasticity.
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03-31-2010, 05:20 PM | #14 | |
Mardelin Yorkshire Terriers Donating Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: California
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Your vet, though maybe wonderful, is old school and has not kept up with what is healthy for your dog. 1. Your girl is much to old to breed her for her first time. You are risking her life. Are you prepared to lose her and the litter. 2. You are risking her life now by not having her spayed. Pyrometria, could very well take her. 3. Have you done your homework on genetics, pedigrees, whelping, breeding the Yorkshire Terrier Standard. 4. Have you had all the required testing done on your girl. Bile Acids, hips, knees x-rayed, eyes, ears and heart checked. Does she meet the standard. The responsible owner of a stud that is a good representation of the breed will ask for verification of such tests as they will provide you with said information. 5. Are you prepared to give up 12 weeks of your life....and I mean not leaving your house.....
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03-31-2010, 05:24 PM | #15 |
Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Port Charlotte, FL, USA
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| Its just very frustrating. When I first got Muffin I was a Navy Wife and my husband and I were stationed in CUBA and he got her for me as a companion to have in CUBA. We didnt come back to the USA until she was 2 and I was pregnant with our first child and breeding her was in the back of my mind but not a priority, but i did reach out to this group back then when she was two and asked for advise and met the same review.. i guess back then would have been a good time but i never got the advise i needed. But just like then is what i am experiancing now. I do appriciate the knowledge i have gained about the pelvic issue and age cause i had no idea. no one had mentioned that to me! That makes a large diff because I love my Muffin more than anything, shes like a kid and I wouldn't want her to be in danger like that. I justt assumed that if I found a smaller male that would reduce a risk of larger puppies and we'd be fine. Thank you for the info. |
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