my neutered male is still able to lock!! - YorkieTalk.com Forums

bellemarie · 03-30-2010, 02:29 PM

hi, i'm not entirely sure if this is the right place to post this (being new n all) but i hope someone can help me!!
my male chi, dexx, was a rescue- my breed mentor sometimes gets unwanted dogs handed over to her (or tied to her gate) and she asked me if i could take him... he was about 3 and intact... i got him neutered immediately (what with having my yorkie girls) but he can still lock! he caught kuki today and he is VERY big for a chi and shes quite small- her feet wouldn't completely touch the ground!
i don't want to have to spay my girls as they are health tested and perfect dogs (and currently in show trainning) but with bambi being smaller than kuki (i'm not 100% sure about breeding her but my mentor and vets all say she'd be a good size- shes long)

my vet says the only solution he knows of would be to literally cut it off and gave him a fake one for weeing, but thats far too extreme!

have any of you ever encountered this problem and do you know of any herbal or hormone treatments that would stop him without causing damage?

i can't keep them seperate as i live with my granny who doesn't remember to close doors and because he was so badly neglected (and locked in the coal shed when they couldn't be bothered with him) i can't put him in a shed of any kind; the girls sleep with me and he sleeps with my granny- and we are both in the house all the ime so they are used to constant company so shedding any of them would be cruel!

sorry, i know its a long story, but he'd really hurt bambi if he got hold of her and shes due to go into heat very soon!!
thanks for reading!

My Sophia · 03-30-2010, 02:33 PM

Have you tried a belly band on him? Might work as a bit of a chastity belt, give you a physical barrier to prevent him from tying.

bellemarie · 03-30-2010, 03:10 PM

i was actually just looking at them on a site tonight; they dont seem to sell them in n.i or the uk!
but i'll definately order one to try...

BamaFan121s · 03-30-2010, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by bellemarie

my vet says the only solution he knows of would be to literally cut it off and gave him a fake one for weeing, but thats far too extreme!

Extreme is not the term I would use to describe it....CRUEL would be a more appropriate term. I would find a new vet that wouldn't even so much as SUGGEST such a procedure and I would certainly never consider it as a means to rectify the problem. Your boy would be better off being placed in a home with no intact females vs this as the alternative.

You can certainly can look into belly bands. They may help, they certainly won't hurt. Unfortunately, even neutered males will be attracted to in tact females from time to time. Keeping them separated would certainly be the best option for all involved, but if that is not an option for you...

bellemarie · 03-30-2010, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by BamaFan121s

Extreme is not the term I would use to describe it....CRUEL would be a more appropriate term. I would find a new vet that wouldn't even so much as SUGGEST such a procedure and I would certainly never consider it as a means to rectify the problem. Your boy would be better off being placed in a home with no intact females vs this as the alternative.

You can certainly can look into belly bands. They may help, they certainly won't hurt. Unfortunately, even neutered males will be attracted to in tact females from time to time. Keeping them separated would certainly be the best option for all involved, but if that is not an option for you...

don't panic, he IS an amazing vet- he wasn't saying he'd actually do it- just to prove he had no ideas what-so-ever... that proceedure is for if the dog has a medical problem such as cancer or a serious injury with which the only other option would be euthanasia...

i know i'm just being overly sentimental, but hes only recently started to trust everyone after what happened to him (he was also beaten and had his leg broken in 2 places and never set... he doesn't trust easily!) and i'm afraid that rehoming him would undo any trust in mankind that he was building up; but obviously if its that or byebye bambi, then i'd have to let him go

megansmomma · 03-30-2010, 04:00 PM

I am not a breeder so I do not have any experience with breeding BUT have a question. How long has it been since he was neutered? Both my boys were neutered and it took about a month or more for the hormone levels to go down. Both my males were neutered together and a few weeks after I found one in the yard with a full erection! But that has not happened since and slowly went away with a little time.

bellemarie · 03-30-2010, 04:03 PM

sorry, i forgot to put that on before... it was about 18 months ago... thats why i can't believe that he actually locked! i know that its quite normal for them to try, but Not to lock!!
he's such a pain in the bum sometimes (no pun intended)...
but hes ma' baby!!

DvlshAngel985 · 03-30-2010, 04:10 PM

I know how you feel. My boy was neutered last August (the same week he came home) and he is my only dog, yet I am extremely familiar with Mr Peeper. Just me coming home is enough to get Mr Peeper to salute. It's really uncomfortable for me since I wasn't expecting a neutered male to be so um... capable.

So I'm not surprised that your new boy actually locked, especially if it's soon after the neuter. He still has hormones inside of him driving this behavior. It seems like having your females spayed is out of the question, it sounds like you show. (I'm jealous!) Although it might hurt to separate from this wee one, it might in the very long run be for the best. I hope the belly bands help so you don't have to go down that route. Good luck!!

bellemarie · 03-30-2010, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by DvlshAngel985

I know how you feel. My boy was neutered last August (the same week he came home) and he is my only dog, yet I am extremely familiar with Mr Peeper. Just me coming home is enough to get Mr Peeper to salute. It's really uncomfortable for me since I wasn't expecting a neutered male to be so um... capable.

So I'm not surprised that your new boy actually locked, especially if it's soon after the neuter. He still has hormones inside of him driving this behavior. It seems like having your females spayed is out of the question, it sounds like you show. (I'm jealous!) Although it might hurt to separate from this wee one, it might in the very long run be for the best. I hope the belly bands help so you don't have to go down that route. Good luck!!

yea, a few weeks i could have put up with (and did) but 1 1/2 yrs later is a bit rediculous! lol... i guess this id one of those 'one in a million' that HAPPEN ALL THE TIME! gahh!
i've even tried puttin pants and babygrows on him and the girls, but he's determined!!

DvlshAngel985 · 03-30-2010, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by bellemarie

yea, a few weeks i could have put up with (and did) but 1 1/2 yrs later is a bit rediculous! lol... i guess this id one of those 'one in a million' that HAPPEN ALL THE TIME! gahh!
i've even tried puttin pants and babygrows on him and the girls, but he's determined!!

He was neutered a year and a half ago? I was starting to see hope with Kaji not getting as excited anymore, but every once in a while, BOOM! HHEELLLOOOO Mr Peeper. Ah, oh well, what we put up with for the sake of the babies, right?

BamaFan121s · 03-30-2010, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by bellemarie

don't panic, he IS an amazing vet- he wasn't saying he'd actually do it-

Whew!

bellemarie · 03-30-2010, 04:25 PM

yea, just when you think 'right that enough!! i've had it!!' they get out the puppy eyes and cuddle up to you, but then 5 mins laterthey do the exact same thing or something worse, but you can't shout at them because its not their fault, or those darn eyes do their magic again!
are there even any tablets (herbal or non harmful) i could give the girls that would stop him from being so interested? i tried the sprays, but they do nothing exept make you hold your nose when hugging her!!

megansmomma · 03-30-2010, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by bellemarie

sorry, i forgot to put that on before... it was about 18 months ago... thats why i can't believe that he actually locked! i know that its quite normal for them to try, but Not to lock!!
he's such a pain in the bum sometimes (no pun intended)...
but hes ma' baby!!

18 months! I don't even know what to say. I would have bet that it was 18 days ago! Oh boy I don't even know what to say

Mardelin · 03-30-2010, 06:11 PM

Not unusual at all. Never underestimate the powers of a woman.

From time to time I sit a nuetered male....I took him over to my girlfriend's house....who also owns a yorkie female; spayed....well low and behold....what did we observe....the two of them doing the deed.....

bellemarie · 03-31-2010, 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Mardelin

Not unusual at all. Never underestimate the powers of a woman.

From time to time I sit a nuetered male....I took him over to my girlfriend's house....who also owns a yorkie female; spayed....well low and behold....what did we observe....the two of them doing the deed.....

wow! talk about determination!! when i first told my mentor that they locked she didnt quite believe me... she told my that yes, they could look like they were tied, but they would pull apart... they don't...

at least dexx isn't the only one with an extremly rediculous drive!!

03-30-2010, 02:29 PM	#1
bellemarie YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: belfast, northern ireland Posts: 520	my neutered male is still able to lock!! hi, i'm not entirely sure if this is the right place to post this (being new n all) but i hope someone can help me!! my male chi, dexx, was a rescue- my breed mentor sometimes gets unwanted dogs handed over to her (or tied to her gate) and she asked me if i could take him... he was about 3 and intact... i got him neutered immediately (what with having my yorkie girls) but he can still lock! he caught kuki today and he is VERY big for a chi and shes quite small- her feet wouldn't completely touch the ground! i don't want to have to spay my girls as they are health tested and perfect dogs (and currently in show trainning) but with bambi being smaller than kuki (i'm not 100% sure about breeding her but my mentor and vets all say she'd be a good size- shes long) my vet says the only solution he knows of would be to literally cut it off and gave him a fake one for weeing, but thats far too extreme! have any of you ever encountered this problem and do you know of any herbal or hormone treatments that would stop him without causing damage? i can't keep them seperate as i live with my granny who doesn't remember to close doors and because he was so badly neglected (and locked in the coal shed when they couldn't be bothered with him) i can't put him in a shed of any kind; the girls sleep with me and he sleeps with my granny- and we are both in the house all the ime so they are used to constant company so shedding any of them would be cruel! sorry, i know its a long story, but he'd really hurt bambi if he got hold of her and shes due to go into heat very soon!! thanks for reading!

03-30-2010, 04:00 PM	#6
megansmomma Donating YT 10K Club Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: S. W. Suburbs of Chicago, IL Posts: 12,235	I am not a breeder so I do not have any experience with breeding BUT have a question. How long has it been since he was neutered? Both my boys were neutered and it took about a month or more for the hormone levels to go down. Both my males were neutered together and a few weeks after I found one in the yard with a full erection! But that has not happened since and slowly went away with a little time. __________________ “Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference.” Mark Twain

03-30-2010, 04:10 PM	#8
DvlshAngel985 Donating YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Los Angeles, California, USA Posts: 12,693	I know how you feel. My boy was neutered last August (the same week he came home) and he is my only dog, yet I am extremely familiar with Mr Peeper. Just me coming home is enough to get Mr Peeper to salute. It's really uncomfortable for me since I wasn't expecting a neutered male to be so um... capable. So I'm not surprised that your new boy actually locked, especially if it's soon after the neuter. He still has hormones inside of him driving this behavior. It seems like having your females spayed is out of the question, it sounds like you show. (I'm jealous!) Although it might hurt to separate from this wee one, it might in the very long run be for the best. I hope the belly bands help so you don't have to go down that route. Good luck!! __________________ Littlest JakJak We miss you Kaji Last edited by DvlshAngel985; 03-30-2010 at 04:12 PM.

03-30-2010, 06:11 PM	#14
Mardelin Mardelin Yorkshire Terriers Donating Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: California Posts: 14,776	Not unusual at all. Never underestimate the powers of a woman. From time to time I sit a nuetered male....I took him over to my girlfriend's house....who also owns a yorkie female; spayed....well low and behold....what did we observe....the two of them doing the deed..... __________________ Mardelin *Yorkshire* *Terriers*

03-30-2010, 02:33 PM	#2
My Sophia YT Addict Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Las Vegas, NV, USA Posts: 467	Have you tried a belly band on him? Might work as a bit of a chastity belt, give you a physical barrier to prevent him from tying.

03-30-2010, 03:10 PM	#3
bellemarie YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: belfast, northern ireland Posts: 520	i was actually just looking at them on a site tonight; they dont seem to sell them in n.i or the uk! but i'll definately order one to try...

03-30-2010, 04:03 PM	#7
bellemarie YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: belfast, northern ireland Posts: 520	sorry, i forgot to put that on before... it was about 18 months ago... thats why i can't believe that he actually locked! i know that its quite normal for them to try, but Not to lock!! he's such a pain in the bum sometimes (no pun intended)... but hes ma' baby!!

03-30-2010, 04:25 PM	#12
bellemarie YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: belfast, northern ireland Posts: 520	yea, just when you think 'right that enough!! i've had it!!' they get out the puppy eyes and cuddle up to you, but then 5 mins laterthey do the exact same thing or something worse, but you can't shout at them because its not their fault, or those darn eyes do their magic again! are there even any tablets (herbal or non harmful) i could give the girls that would stop him from being so interested? i tried the sprays, but they do nothing exept make you hold your nose when hugging her!!